Was this the same with PLD last year? Would you want to "sign up" to be in that scenario too?
Handsomely for what he is. If you're example here is that JT Miller makes 8 million so it's okay for Necas to make the same, I'd respectfully ask if you even know how to determine if a player is good or not. Miller is like twice the player Necas is.
I'm not saying all hell will break loose if we do that, but it's not ideal for a player of his caliber and we should already be weary of red flags in his game.
-what an odd post...because PLD didn't work out in year one of his deal with the Kings, it means we can't ever pay anyone more than 8M a year.
Is this what you're arguing? Come on man...
- The fact you think Miller is twice the player Necas is irrelevant, I posted players who make 8M a year. When JT Miller was the same age as Martin Necas, he wasn't two the player Necas is today, in fact, he was worse.
- You're not paying flawless players 8M a year...it's basically the going rate for a 2nd line player, the fact that the Habs have two key players already locked up for several years at UNDER this amount, should tell you how much flexibility they have.
When I see 2nd liners in today's game making around 5-6, I'm going based off of that. When/if the cap goes to that point and most other second liners make that much, then sure.
I don't think you understand how the market works. I'm not even trying to be a dick here. But most 2nd line player making 5-6M a deal today, signed their deal a few years ago. It is by no means a reflection of where the cap is going.
Most of these players are either 30 year old +. You're stuck in a by gone era man.
I've made it, I said they are severely hindered by it. You chose to ignore it because you know I'm right but you're instead cherry picking a team with generational talents as if we're even remotely comparable.
No, you've chosen to arbitrarily decide that a few bad contracts is why those teams struggled. That's entirely different.
You brought up the Kings, who lost in the first round this year because according to you, they have one contract on their team that's severely hindering them in P-L Dubois.
Yet the year prior, they also lost in the first round and guess what, they didn't P-L Dubois on their roster.
There's a difference between a flawless player and having serious flaws which Necas has.
Never said that but frankly I'm not surprised, you always put words in my mouth for every discussion we have.
It's definitely affected their ability to get another much needed dman.
So you're not a fan of Necas...that's fine. I can respect that.
I just don't agree that 8M a year is outlandish. That's the high end of his market right now, i'm not the one to determines that, that's just the way the market is. Don't blame me.
And I've said that the range you first provided was fine with me and I've even made it clear that having a player overpaid by 750k isn't going to be the downfall of our cap.
But it is. Their own fans are saying it's hurting them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that McDrai is covering a lot of their problems. It would be like saying the Gallagher/Anderson contracts weren't problematic because we made the finals a couple of years ago, but that's ignoring how we had a superstar in Price to cover up the issues.
Who cares what their own fans are saying lol I promise you, if the Oilers win the Stanley Cup...no one will give a damn that Darnell Nurse is overpaid by 4-5M.
But if they lose, he will no doubt be the reason why.
None of this actually means anything because there's never a singular reason why a team wins or loses. Only kids who believe in fairy tales think that.
You're not a child.
No offense but I call complete bullshit that you wouldn't have given him that. He was a second liner and it falls exactly in line with the criteria that you're setting for Necas. He was a flawed player, the Habs cap situation wouldn't be problematic for a young former 3rd OA, and missing out over like 750k wouldn't be worth it.
Once again, never said he's the sole reason. I'm saying his contract is really hurting them.
Why would I take offense when you're the one who smells like shit right about now.
June 27, 2023 - read for yourself. I had zero interest in paying a Quebec tax for P-L Dubois. Good player, I wouldn't have minded him but no way I wanted the Habs to pay the assets and salary required to sign him.
So you can go on with that take.
We can say that they should go the way of a rebuild, but the reality is that the Jets don't want to go that route. They're not interested in draft picks or prospects. They want guys who will step into their NHL line-up right away and contribute. Players don't want to live in the Peg That team...
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