Catanddogguitarrr
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Of course, of course, yeah.
And that's from from the great great mind of Marinaro, lol.
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale
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And that's from from the great great mind of Marinaro, lol.
Brady T. has been said to be on the trade market twice in the last 6 months by the media. Once near the deadline and a few days ago.
He's not coming here thought, people can stop thinking about that. Sens wouldn't trade him to a divisional rival.
Catanddogguitarrr
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If let's say 80% of what you write is true, then it will not happen. Just by basic logic as you expose. Is it possible an nhl team will sacrifice an nhl top 6 player for a "possible as good player" in 5 years. For what freakin' reason? Because the other player in 5 years might become a little bit better than the nhl one? Sorry but no, it doesn't happen in real life.
This is why those kind of discussions are a waste of time. Like Zegras, Necas and cie. Well Necas maybe but I doubt it. Too expensive for not that much he is actually.
Hughes and Gorton can make better trades than that. Or they don't trade and wait for the good deal.
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He's not wrong, but he's also not seeing that this is not the time to add this type of player either. The bottom 6 has too many bodies as it is and moving any of the Dvorak, Anderson, Gally or Armia ALL have a better return for the team beyond this summer. Also, the team is not really trying to make the playoff, so there is zero urgency to move any of these pieces at extra cost to add Jeannot or a similar player. Next season should be one of final evaluation and deadwood moving so that summer 25.... holes are properly identified and addressed.
The only exemption to this is a big and physical RD that can play top 4. I think you grab one ASAP as they are rare and this is an area of weakness now and down the road.
Catanddogguitarrr
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Me neither not fan of the sens but the point is no nhl team makes that trade, as bad as the nhl team is. And they are both teams same conference.
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Was he spritzing himself with a water bottle at the time?Of course, of course, yeah.
And that's from from the great great mind of Marinaro, lol.
Why? they have this exact type of player, just not as good of a fighter, in Michael Pezzetta?
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Sterling Archer
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Depends who’s available at 5. Doesn’t matter because Sens would NEVER trade him to Habs anyways.
What if he's at the root of all the tension?
Matheson + for Zadorov?
Man...I don't think I've seen a quality Dman as disrespected by his own fanbase as I see Matheson is on this forum.
A guy on a sweet contract coming off a 62pt season, and they have to add, in order to add a player whose a few weeks away from free agency and isn't even a top 4 Dman?
Wild stuff, all due respect.
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Habs Halifax
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I don't buy this Tkachuk trade rumors but I also didn't believe the Subban trade rumors back when as well.
Lets say it's true. Yeah, 5th OA is something we can offer. Problem is they ask for more. Brady is signed for 4 years and they are prime years. He's a legit top line talent and a nasty winger with grit. Probably has to be 5th OA, and a NHL ready player (Roy maybe). They might ask for more.. 5th OA and Caufield.
The question I would have is this. What does this roster do with Tkachuk in those 4 years? Is our young D ready?
Habs Halifax
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Not sure the results come with the Guhle+ for Tkachuk flip. Think about how we look in the playoffs with that young D and without Guhle over the next 4 years? If our D was more mature and all in their prime, it would be a good move IMO. If Tkachuk can't win with the Sens weak D and goaltending, it's not happening with us too. If Brady came with more term, it would fit more (more time for our D to mature). Good luck trying to convince him to stay and what kind of contract he would want.
I personally would not trade Matheson+ for Zadorov. We already have our Zadorov. Xhekaj and he might be better.
This Habs roster is going nowhere until our D is all mostly in their Prime. Not even Guhle is in his prime yet. It's a range from age 22/23 (Guhle and Xhekaj) to age 19 (Reinbacher) today. Results are not coming over the next 4 years. Moving up the standings yes but we have a lot more transition years to come. Tampa didn't do anything until Hedman/Stamkos were in their late 20's and Point/Sergachev were in their early 20's.
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I agree Caufield is closer value than Roy (!)
As for this fear of being a good team ahead of some theoretical surgical window I see a lot of on this board, I don’t buy it at all; time to get good. They’re not trading picks for 35 year old specialists here, we’re talking building 2 real top lines, top 4 D and actual depth that moves the needle.
Heck Tkatchuck is worth 5oa, Caufield ++, and I say go in an instant.
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Habs Halifax
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If it's an option, you consider it for sure. I would love to add Brady to this group but it could end up derailing things. Of course he helps us move up faster but that D man, it's young. I don't see us being a strong defensive team for 3+ years (min). We need most of our D core in that age 25-30 range.
I can't help but think that we are deflated after 4 seasons and Brady walks. Anyways, Sens are not trading Brady to the Habs. It's cheap talk.
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To MTL: Martin Necas
To CAR: Jets 1st + Florida 2025 2st + Josh Anderson (50% retained) + Struble/Barron/Harris/(Engstrom?)
To MTL: Martin Necas
To CAR: Matheson
To CAR: Jets 1st + Florida 2025 2st + Josh Anderson (50% retained) + Struble/Barron/Harris/(Engstrom?)
To MTL: Martin Necas
To CAR: Matheson
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Sterling Archer
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I like the first one better. Matheson too valuable to the Habs right now.
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OTT can't trade Tkachuck.... may as well fold the team. People here in Ottawa will just stop going to see the games.
1st deal can be easily outbid by other teams.
Habs Halifax
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Agreed. New owners and a very bad message to send to the fan base. They just spent the last 5 years rebuilding with limited success and then they trade Brady? How deflating would that be. Good luck getting fans in the seats.
Unless Brady requests a trade? What a mess that would be.
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Even if he asked a trade, he's under contract for a few seasons so there is zero urgency to make a deal. You can be dam sure that in that scenario, a trade would bring back a similar player back, not magic beans.
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On a team that has very few players who bring offence too.
You mean even more people here in Ottawa will just stop going to see the games.
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Derailing if you mean not following an exact path… I mean a forward group of Tkatchuk - Newhook - Dach, Slaf - Suzuki - some missing elite RW seems like something you would build an actual top 10 nhl attack around. He’s not going anywhere, but no way adding a 24 yo 6’4 225 pounder that scores 30-40 isn’t a wet dream. Trade half the lhd at that point for the one RW and habs are in the show.
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