Well they're not going to walk away from him.They don't have the money to sign him either.
They'll do like every team does when it's time to re-sign a key player.
Figure it out.
Well they're not going to walk away from him.They don't have the money to sign him either.
I remember reading the Hurricanes inquired about Anderson at some point. Not sure what they are ready to offer and after last season...good luck.Of course they are - though Carolina has an unreasonable ask right now, to which our only real offering that makes sense is Matheson, though maybe they think Anderson would be a massive fit in their system and it can be supplemented with picks and Jayden Struble, for example.
There's really nothing to this report, that's actually originally a Pierre Lebrun report.Is that actually said, or did 360 just infer that from something that has a fringe connection?
My verbal French f***ing sucks and that... account likes to take things out of context, or think less than reputable sources are legit
I don't think that right now there is a name that make sense to go after and trade significant assets for (5OV, 2x 1e, Mailloux, etc) - at least that we know is publicly out there.Who do you think would actually come available that would fit the bill better than Necas?
You have basically nailed it here...............Their plan to be competitive is like this IMO:
1) Dach healthy
2) More growth from Guhle, Slaf, Newhook, Xhekaj, Roy, Mailloux, Struble, Barron
3) Rebound season from Anderson. More stable play from Matheson, Savard, Dvorak.
4) Stable goaltending with Monty and Primeau. Primeau took huge steps forward last year
5) Possible addition of a top 6F.
Problem to me is that if the father share those expectations, you can be pretty confident that these are also the players expectations. the Q is can MTL offer them and what if he's not meeting them? never good.It could or it could not have an impact on the ultimate decision to acquire him.
The kid has an agent, a meddling dad is not helping, especially making untenable demands like he has.
He had 12 pts in 20 playoff games during a Cup run, as a 20-21 yr old.................no worries there.Watching playoffs makes me think that Caufield is not going to cut it. He was also not all that impressive (from what I read) at the world championship. And despite MSL's claims that he has become a "more complete" player, his last season he wasn't all that amazing either. So...
Would it be far fetched to try trade CC and another piece for a moar bigger playoffs built top 6 forward?
Then Habs can sign Marner to get the TO da playoffs.
You have basically nailed it here...............
We do all, need to pray to the hockey gods, to keep us healthy this year.
Can anyone remember how many one goal games we had last year? I know we won many, but we lost many more, and the above happening turns that bus, somewhat upside down......it can happen.
Their team is finished if they can't free up a chunk of space to re-sign half their players. They have no leverage here.
Well they're not going to walk away from him.
They'll do like every team does when it's time to re-sign a key player.
Figure it out.
I'm pretty sure the Canes would make a litany of moves before giving him up. He's one of the most valuable players on their roster.
To me Necas is a 2nd line player with talent, but not game breaking skills. If MTL is to trade valuable assets for a young player, I prefer they aim at a more skill guy. So unless he cheap in a trade and willing to sign below Suzuki's cap hit, its a no.
I don't agree they're in a terrible situation because whatever they do, they're going to end up trading a very valuable player for an important return.At the end of the day they need to look at the whole picture. It may end up making more sense to trade Jarvis and keep Necas if trading Jarvis allows them to dump cap at the same time. They are in a terrible situation. I don't think trading Necas gets them out of the hole they're in and they may end up with a weaker overall team if they can't find a way to keep their big-name UFAs.
I'm pretty sure the Canes would make a litany of moves before giving him up. He's one of the most valuable players on their roster.
While I don't agree with you, I do think your POV has some merit. I still want Caufield on our team, but maybe he would be better suited on a 2nd like with Dach.Watching playoffs makes me think that Caufield is not going to cut it. He was also not all that impressive (from what I read) at the world championship. And despite MSL's claims that he has become a "more complete" player, his last season he wasn't all that amazing either. So...
Would it be far fetched to try trade CC and another piece for a moar bigger playoffs built top 6 forward?
Then Habs can sign Marner to get the TO da playoffs.
For Necas, I think the problem is not what is the minimum Carolina is willing to take, but rather what other teams are willing to offer and the ensuing bidding war. I dont think 1stWin+ is gona cut here here and I dont want MTL to get into a bidding was for that guy... he's not THAT special to warrant that type of investment.I would say Necas is a middle 6F type but at the high end of it. Similar to Newhook. Call me different but I don't have a definitive top 6 vs bottom 6 line. I find there are tons of players who are 2nd/3rd line types. NHL is no longer a top 6 heavy strategy. Teams want to have 3 good lines.
Barron and Jets 1st might work (low end offer yes). There won't be a 1/1 trade where the Canes add someone with salary. They are looking to resign Guentzle and Pesce and several other RFA's to sign.
What scares me the most is what Necas's agent pushes for after you trade for him. I am hearing talk that he is looking for Suzuki numbers.
While I don't agree with you, I do think your POV has some merit. I still want Caufield on our team, but maybe he would be better suited on a 2nd like with Dach.
Necas-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Iginla-Dach-Caufield
Roy-Newhook-____
For Necas, I think the problem is not what is the minimum Carolina is willing to take, but rather what other teams are willing to offer and the ensuing bidding war. I dont think 1stWin+ is gona cut here here and I dont want MTL to get into a bidding was for that guy... he's not THAT special to warrant that type of investment.
Watching playoffs makes me think that Caufield is not going to cut it. He was also not all that impressive (from what I read) at the world championship. And despite MSL's claims that he has become a "more complete" player, his last season he wasn't all that amazing either. So...
Would it be far fetched to try trade CC and another piece for a moar bigger playoffs built top 6 forward?
Then Habs can sign Marner to get the TO da playoffs.
I mean if we want to add context then a lot of Bergevin's trades will end up losers because he lacked any vision so his trades that were ok in a vacuum were really bad. As an example Beaulieu for a 3rd, not terrible in a vacuum, but in context that trade was because they felt they would lose him to the expansion draft, and then we lost Emelin instead, didn't re-sign Markov, and ended up with Jordie Benn as the only NHL LD and being forced to rush Mete, and sign Alzner and Streit and trade for Schlemko.
That's exactly my point, if we are taking account the context of the trade that means taking into account whether they are in the service of a greater goal which almost everyone agrees was often not the case with Bergevin.I'd actually disagree, because those aren't necessarily correlated and need to be looked at differently. A trade can be good or bad in a vacuum, but should ideally be in the service of a greater goal.
Lets assume that Montreal traded Beaulieu as because they felt they would lose him to the expansion draft (and not because they lost faith in him), the only way it could be deemed a lose trade in your argument is that Emelin being claimed and Markov not being re-signed were a consequence of that trade.
Again, often times Bergevin's trades weren't the problem, it was that there wasn't a clear plan. That Bergevin didn't have a plan to address his LD did not mean the Beaulieu trade was bad. Lets be real here, even if Beaulieu and Emelin were around, Montreal still would have had an awful LD group. And Bergevin wasn't forced to sign Alzner either, that was his decision.
It isn't just about getting a good return, they will need to clear cap space too. The way I see it, part of the return on a Necas/Jarvis trade is going to be taking some cap back so they can sign Guentzel/Teravainen/Pesce/Skjej. Those are some really big pieces and all UFA. Imagine someone agrees to take back Kotkaniemi with no retention in a Jarvis trade where you also get a good return. I highly doubt someone takes KK in a Necas trade. That would solve a lot of their problems.I don't agree they're in a terrible situation because whatever they do, they're going to end up trading a very valuable player for an important return.
Unless of course they completely shit the bed on the return…but this has been the reality in the NHL for a long time now.
With success, comes a price…you identify who you consider core players and you move out the ones who you can't afford to be part of that core.
The best teams manage this part of it effectively (see Tampa Bay).
Rather sign Arvidsson on a 1 year deal.What about a UFA Tarasenko? On a 2 or 3 year
Was that in the Lubrun vid? sry breaking quick from workHow many RFA years does Necas have left? 1 or 2?