HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Nico Cauzuki]

Allen will never return a 1st and our last retention spot should be used on Savard he has an extra year which will up hes value at 50%

and trade Monahan cant believe some people wanna re-sign him hes body is done and will only get worst its obvious that he already lost some juice and we're only halfway through the season

i like Kakko has a trade option this summer if he doesnt cost much

 

[salbutera]

I’m curious what HuGo is seeking this deadline I don’t get the sense they are after collecting more draft picks, which if true will change the structure of deals if the targets are NHL ready prospects..

 

[BaseballCoach]

The thing that sucks is we could’ve sold high at the trade deadline on Gallagher before Covid when it was looking like we were going to miss the playoffs for a 3rd straight year and 4th time in 5 years. Management with lack of foresight mixed with emotional is a recipe for disaster.

Yes, but way worse than just that. TDL and Summer 2021 were a total disaster.

We picked Gallagher to retain over Danault, and passed on moving Tatar who was scoring at 0.9 ppg pace. Both did squat for us in the surprise playoff run anyway.

A first for Gallagher, a first for Tatar, a third for Armia, a first and third for KK, do not trade for Dvorak. Keep Danault and Lehkonen, re-sign Perry, don't sign Hoffman.


Subsequently, do not trade Toffoli or Lehkonen (re-sign).

That team competes right away, but has only Price aqnd Weber as big contrqcts that get LTIRed and converted to more assets.

We don't get Slafkovsky or Mesar, but have 4 first rounders (net) and two third rounders to do better than those two players. We can live without Barron.

 

[DAChampion]

IMO the Habs' are not ready to move on from either Savard or Matheson. Perhaps next year based on how Mailloux, Reinbacher, Hutson, and Engstrom are doing.

I don't expect a big gains this deadline: Monahan, Pearson, Allen, won't yield that much.

 

[morhilane]

I’m curious what HuGo is seeking this deadline I don’t get the sense they are after collecting more draft picks, which if true will change the structure of deals if the targets are NHL ready prospects..

He might try to get another 2nd. He also probably want another 1st round pick (so he can trade it for a young player). Also, sometimes picks are all you are offered.

Saying that, I feels like the Habs have too many prospects coming up at the same time already. I think Hughes might be better off taking picks, but asking for 2026+.

 

[vokiel]

They don't even have the cap space to take on more bad contracts without shedding their own. The deadline will be a disappointment for many imho.

 

[Habricot]

Teams in Leafs situation are the type to go all in at deadline - Knies will likely be the bait to help address multiple positional weaknesses IMO

They would be fool to trade him..

 

[salbutera]

They would be fool to trade him..

I agree - but Leafs are not in a leverage position to swing deals, teams will know this and not cave…

Bottom line: how much heat is Shanahan feeling from ownership? If his jobs on the line, he won’t give a rats ass about Knies’ future potential

 

[Habricot]

Jake Allen
Jake Evans
Josh Anderson
David Savard
Jordan Harris


I would put them on the market.

There is no reason to put Savard on the Market.

 

[sampollock]

They would be fool to trade him..

only way they can make a huge deal to go for it this year (as we know they will)
1. give up a 1st rounder pick
2. trade willy wonka
3. trade a good prospect

 

[salbutera]

only way they can make a huge deal to go for it this year (as we know they will)
1. give up a 1st rounder pick
2. trade willy wonka
3. trade a good prospect

And if history has taught anything - teams that “go for it” don’t trade their Willy Wonka’s at deadline time

 

[Habricot]

IMO the Habs' are not ready to move on from either Savard or Matheson. Perhaps next year based on how Mailloux, Reinbacher, Hutson, and Engstrom are doing.

I don't expect a big gains this deadline: Monahan, Pearson, Allen, won't yield that much.

I completely agree. I think both are required to shape our defense for years to come. Next year we should have the means to replace Kovacevic by Mailloux if he is ready hopefully. Reinbacher and Hutson will be heading to the AHL and we will have very tough decisions to make between Struble, Xhekaj,Harris.

So if are making trades..it will be more arround what can help shaping this team rather the gathering picks in my opinion.

 

[BoneHutson]

I doubt Hughes will move Savard and Matheson also. I would, but he runs team different than I would.

Same as a year ago I would have traded Anderson, Allen and Savard. I wanted to weaken team for either Bedard or Fantilli. Franchise center I seen.

Plus gain about 3 extra first round picks. Freed up 10-12 million in caproom but spent it in summer. Most likely signed Dumba and Bunting. I always liked them. Maybe signed Reimer as depth in net. I thought he was good goalie with Leafs. Considering their defense. I remember playoff series they almost upset heavily favourite Bruins. I thought he stole couple of games.

The extra picks I would packaged to try for Leonard or Dvorsky. I wanted size and skill up front. Fantilli and Leonard been my goal for draft. But Hughes sees it different

I feel like the most likely way to acquire Leonard wouldnt be by trading picks and prospects, but by trading a Matheson + assuming WAS is in a playoff spot by TDL. Most of their ACGM on capfriendly involve acquiring an offensive D (and a C). Maybe something like Matheson and Monahan for Leonard and a second (+ Mantha for cap)?

 

[sampollock]

According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie.

 

[Rapala]

IMO the Habs' are not ready to move on from either Savard or Matheson. Perhaps next year based on how Mailloux, Reinbacher, Hutson, and Engstrom are doing.

I don't expect a big gains this deadline: Monahan, Pearson, Allen, won't yield that much.

You are absolutely right. There are not enough steady performers on the back end to warrant the moves this year.
Funny enough I believe Struble will help determine when and if Matheson gets moved.
He played 18 minutes in a game where we dressed 7 D the trust keeps growing.

 

[Rapala]

They don't even have the cap space to take on more bad contracts without shedding their own. The deadline will be a disappointment for many imho.

After last season it's fairly obvious the assets we want to move aren't worth a heck of a lot. Many of us are just hoping we blow a couple of holes in our forward group for guys like Heineman and probably Beck. One player not talked about much is Jake Evans I'd move him in a heartbeat if I could. Our specialist isn't all that special considering we are rocking a 31st spot on the PK.

 

[Sorinth]

I’m curious what HuGo is seeking this deadline I don’t get the sense they are after collecting more draft picks, which if true will change the structure of deals if the targets are NHL ready prospects..

Hughes might very well prefer young NHLers but he has shown he can trade for picks and then turn those picks into what he really wants so I have no doubt he's seeking maximum value thinking he can turn around and make another trade afterwards to get what he really wants.

 

[The Great Weal]

According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie.

I know he's a flawed player and very undisciplined but isn't Bunting one of their most productive players?

 

[morhilane]

According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie.

Hurricanes were apparently ready to trade Bunting to create cap space (when he was lower in the line-up), so they can acquire a goalie. But he has a 10 teams NTC...

And I don't see the Habs wanting to acquire Bunting to move Allen. Hughes can find better.

 

[rahad]

After last season it's fairly obvious the assets we want to move aren't worth a heck of a lot. Many of us are just hoping we blow a couple of holes in our forward group for guys like Heineman and probably Beck. One player not talked about much is Jake Evans I'd move him in a heartbeat if I could. Our specialist isn't all that special considering we are rocking a 31st spot on the PK.

I don't think Beck is NHl ready next year. I would keep Jack Evans as our fourth line center. You don't have many up coming center with the Habs. Hopefully, we will fix it in the 2024-25 draft.

 

[salbutera]

According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie.

Interesting, Bunting has 2-more years left on his deal, makes $650K more than Allen.

I wouldn’t do a 1:1 swap, Canes would need to add a sweetener - Habs have leverage here, they don’t HAVE to move Allen

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

IMO the Habs' are not ready to move on from either Savard or Matheson. Perhaps next year based on how Mailloux, Reinbacher, Hutson, and Engstrom are doing.

I don't expect a big gains this deadline: Monahan, Pearson, Allen, won't yield that much.

Allen likely won't be dealt. He costs too much, has another year and isn't good enough to be that number 1.

Habs can deal Savard.

Matheson would be nice, but the years left might make it hard at this point as no other team will retain 50% and fitting in his cap hit right now will be hard.

Habs could deal Savard 50% retained for a 1st + and use a late pick to bring in a RHD vet to help the younger guys the rest of the year while being crap on the ice helping the draft pick

 

[LaP]

According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie.

I hate Bunting. I think acquiring Bunting could be pretty bad. I could see him do very well here like Tatar but ultimately he doesn't make our team better when it matters. He's the type of guys who can get you to the bubble but not past it. I've seen him enough in playoffs and important games to know i don't want him in my team.

 

[General Fanager]

Interesting, Bunting has 2-more years left on his deal, makes $650K more than Allen.

I wouldn’t do a 1:1 swap, Canes would need to add a sweetener - Habs have leverage here, they don’t HAVE to move Allen

and there is likely more than 1 team interested....

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

I hate Bunting. I think acquiring Bunting could be pretty bad. I could see him do very well here like Tatar but ultimately he doesn't make our team better when it matters. He's the type of guys who can get you to the bubble but not past it. I've seen him enough in playoffs and important games to know i don't want him in my team.

Bunting is a clown who runs his mouth and causes shit but never backs it up.

We just had a 19 year old get ran with no one stepping up, last thing we need is a little rat in his late 20s stirring shit up.