HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Sterling Archer]

I'd keep Monahan because he's an excellent vet, a smart player and someone youngsters can turn to... What is 3 years/4m$ (thats what i would give him) in the future cap when you are building a team with young players. Same reason why i'd keep one of Savard or Matheson.

I’d happily keep Monny if they can ditch Dvo. Keeping both seems duplicitous. Different players but same position.

 

[calder candidate]

I’d happily keep Monny if they can ditch Dvo. Keeping both seems duplicitous. Different players but same position.

If we keep Monahan he can play anywhere in the top 9. I would have him share C duty with Dach or Suzuki first not sure we can find a better player to play top 6 before next year and so we have a left and a right hand C to take faceoff… Ideally we trade him and resign him as a UFA.

 

[B1g B1rd]

I would offer Monahan 2 year. Habs go Suzuki, Dach, Monahan, Beck down the middle is good mix. He good fit on third line with our young players.

So does that mean we are trading Dvo and Evans?

 

[26Mats]

I would offer Monahan 2 year. Habs go Suzuki, Dach, Monahan, Beck down the middle is good mix. He good fit on third line with our young players.

After the success so far of the Evans-Monahan duo, who knows if Monahan-Evans-Anderson isn't our 3rd line next year:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Ylonen
Monahan - Evans - Anderson
Gallagher - Dvo/Beck - Armia/RHP/Heineman
Pez

 

[HuGort]

So does that mean we are trading Dvo and Evans?

Someday yup. Dvorak could be traded this deadline. If move Dvorak, Allen, Pearson and Armia. Talking 15 million in extra caproom freed up. If they trade Matheson bumps up to 20 million.

 

[sampollock]

Boy the hinc panel are clown's

 

[HuGort]

After the success so far of the Evans-Monahan duo, who knows if Monahan-Evans-Anderson isn't our 3rd line next year:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Ylonen
Monahan - Evans - Anderson
Gallagher - Dvo/Beck - Armia/RHP/Heineman
Pez

Monahan is good character veteran for our young players, good influence on them.

 

[B1g B1rd]

After the success so far of the Evans-Monahan duo, who knows if Monahan-Evans-Anderson isn't our 3rd line next year:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Ylonen
Monahan - Evans - Anderson
Gallagher - Dvo/Beck - Armia/RHP/Heineman
Pez

I dont think Ylonen is a top 6 and not sure Newhook is as well. For now, we need Monahan in there as a top 6 and sometimes, yes, doing 3rd line duties as a center. My 2nd line would be Monahan/Anderson with the hope that HuGo can fetch us a true 2nd line center. Also Anderson, on a good team, is 3rd line material. We also need another top 6 winger. Sooo... I guess we will have to wait and see if Beck, Roy, Heineman make the team for 24-25.

 

[26Mats]

I dont think Ylonen is a top 6 and not sure Newhook is as well. For now, we need Monahan in there as a top 6 and sometimes, yes, doing 3rd line duties as a center. My 2nd line would be Monahan/Anderson with the hope that HuGo can fetch us a true 2nd line center. Also Anderson, on a good team, is 3rd line material. We also need another top 6 winger. Sooo... I guess we will have to wait and see if Beck, Roy, Heineman make the team for 24-25.

I think Ylonen's speed fits well with Newhook and Dach. Yes, I don't know if Ylonen is top six. But I'd like to see him get a shot playing with those two and you see what happens. I think Monahan is too slow to play with those two. But maybe it works:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Monahan
RHP - Dvo - Anderson
Gallagher - Evans - Ylonen
Pez

 

[Sterling Archer]

If we keep Monahan he can play anywhere in the top 9. I would have him share C duty with Dach or Suzuki first not sure we can find a better player to play top 6 before next year and so we have a left and a right hand C to take faceoff… Ideally we trade him and resign him as a UFA.

Can’t argue with that. Agreed 100%.

 

[The Real Timo]

Laffs will likely beat BJs tonight but imagine how sweet it would be if the lost? A full blown panic in leaf land heading into Xmas.

 

[tazsub3]

KK recently said that when he invited his grandparents to Montreal to see him play, Bergevin demoted him to Laval....................so they did not see him play at all.

Recently they came back to NA and did see him play an NHL game.............Bergevin was the reason KK signed the hostile offer sheet.

The kid is a decent NHL player, but we should have taken Brady T

Mb was a simple idiot that thought he way smarter then he was .
He devalued so much of his players Aka assets.
This management , makes sure every player is promoted in the media even if deep down they mine think differently

 

[Kimota]

I'd keep Monahan because he's an excellent vet, a smart player and someone youngsters can turn to... What is 3 years/4m$ (thats what i would give him) in the future cap when you are building a team with young players. Same reason why i'd keep one of Savard or Matheson.

I was thinking like that until his play has dropped a lot recently. Now I'm not sure what I would do.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

I’d happily keep Monny if they can ditch Dvo. Keeping both seems duplicitous. Different players but same position.

Duplicity on the part of whom? Who is lying?

 

[calder candidate]

Thank God KH didn't trade for Dubois!! That's all I have to say!!

Seem to remember there were a lot of people around here that wanted to trade for him, hope there still not to disappointed

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Verbal intelligence is one of the important components of total intelligence. If you listen to Hughes and you listen to Bergevin, you can discern a different level of reasoning then.

Bergevin spoke in terms of slogans, and Hughes speaks in terms of processes. I guess that superficially, processes can be dismissed as slogans, but we see that they get practiced so that counts, they're also higher level in complexity and are accompanied by supporting examples.

Hughes vs Bergevin is basically science versus theism.

 

[26Mats]

Someday yup. Dvorak could be traded this deadline. If move Dvorak, Allen, Pearson and Armia. Talking 15 million in extra caproom freed up. If they trade Matheson bumps up to 20 million.

But I don't think they can move Allen, Dvo and Armia. Maybe they can move Pearson with 50% retained because he's on an expiring deal.

 

[calder candidate]

So who flinches first and trade for a goalie? Rank which one turn to Allen?
These should all have been playoff team or fighting for a wild card, only one is in right now and the rest are outside looking in and will be in a pretty big fight for the last 2 spots… None of these team have a goalie given them .900sv%.

Carolina >Totonto>NJ>Edmonton>Buffalo

Buffalo as the most cap and assets but have the lease pressure to win now.
NJ are also early in their window.
Toronto and Edmonton probably have the most pressure to make the move but Edmonton is in a worst situation and could get outbid by any of the team not sure they get something done, Carolina have space and assets and pressure to win but they are so cheapest not sure they make a move but I still make the 1st…

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

But I don't think they can move Allen, Dvo and Armia. Maybe they can move Pearson with 50% retained because he's on an expiring deal.

They won't retain Pearson unless they can't move anyone else. He won't return enough to be worth retaining.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

So who flinches first and trade for a goalie? Rank which one turn to Allen?
These should all have been playoff team or fighting for a wild card, only one is in right now and the rest are outside looking in and will be in a pretty big fight for the last 2 spots… None of these team have a goalie given them .900sv%.

Carolina >Totonto>NJ>Edmonton>Buffalo

Buffalo as the most cap and assets but have the lease pressure to win now.
NJ are also early in their window.
Toronto and Edmonton probably have the most pressure to make the move but Edmonton is in a worst situation and could get outbid by any of the team not sure they get something done, Carolina have space and assets and pressure to win but they are so cheapest not sure they make a move but I still make the 1st…

Friedman says that the teams with goaltenders want a King's ransom for them. Yes, Elliot, and that would be a fair price. To trade a good goaltender is a risk with so few good goaltenders in the world.
And since there are so many teams with no good goaltenders those teams should have to pay through the nose to get one.

 

[sampollock]

Friedman says that the teams with goaltenders want a King's ransom for them. Yes, Elliot, and that would be a fair price. To trade a good goaltender is a risk with so few good goaltenders in the world.
And since there are so many teams with no good goaltenders those teams should have to pay through the nose to get one.

Pay up EDM or Carolina or Buffalo

 

[Runner77]

Pay up EDM or Carolina or Buffalo

EDM seem to want to do it on the cheap. Wouldn’t count on them as an ultimate suitor but maybe Hughes can pull a rabbit somewhere.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Friedman says that the teams with goaltenders want a King's ransom for them. Yes, Elliot, and that would be a fair price. To trade a good goaltender is a risk with so few good goaltenders in the world.
And since there are so many teams with no good goaltenders those teams should have to pay through the nose to get one.

You risk losing out on getting something in return by playing hardball with players like this. If someone is willing to give me something somewhat decent for Allen with more then a year left on his contract, pull the trigger and beat the other teams to the punch. Just having his cap off the roster next year wins us the trade considering we have Primeau. Any return is just a plus. I feel this is the same mistake they made with Josh Anderson.

 

[calder candidate]

You risk losing out on getting something in return by playing hardball with players like this. If someone is willing to give me something somewhat decent for Allen with more then a year left on his contract, pull the trigger and beat the other teams to the punch. Just having his cap off the roster next year wins us the trade considering we have Primeau. Any return is just a plus. I feel this is the same mistake they made with Josh Anderson.

Agree on the Anderson situation because the contract is long and there is more risk he should have been moved if the offer were fair… But We will still be able to get rid of Allen in the off season even might able to retain, or he might even get pick off waivers so I don’t see much issues moving is contract we be able to get future considerations or smaller cap dump at any time… It is the team in position to miss or lose in the playoff should be the one feeling the pressure if they had been getting .900+ goaltending they mostly be in a playoff spot already. Considering that if nothing else just making the playoff means 2 additional home game minimum.
Those team should be the one to beat the others to the punch and get a deal done not KH.

 

[Deus ex machina]

You risk losing out on getting something in return by playing hardball with players like this. If someone is willing to give me something somewhat decent for Allen with more then a year left on his contract, pull the trigger and beat the other teams to the punch. Just having his cap off the roster next year wins us the trade considering we have Primeau. Any return is just a plus. I feel this is the same mistake they made with Josh Anderson.

It's hard to say they're playing hardball when we don't really know what's the ask.
It's probably more likely that teams are whining that prices are too high because they want to get a goalie on the cheap.

I don't think that the Habs really need cap space that badly next year. It's more about the roster spot.

Again, hard to say that they made a mistake with Anderson without knowing what the offers were.