HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[BaseballCoach]

They are going to ask for Harris + Allen.

Ya promise?

 

[B1g B1rd]

That's an easy yes for MTL, but I would think Buf would ask for more

How much more? A 3rd rd pick? Or an established prospect?

 

[The Great Weal]

Saying he wouldn't have been is also speculation.

It's all speculation.

I think it’s more than fair to say that Suzuki would still be our best center when comparing their track records. People are claiming that Dach is our best center based on a very small sample size and some preseason games. This claim is way more of a speculation, not even close really.

 

[Kosseca]

How much more? A 3rd rd pick? Or an established prospect?

I dont know. Seems to me Allen as very low value (age, contract, performance, health). So the question is Harris close in value to Krebs? and what is the difference? Krebs has had is own issues so it would come down to how does Buffalo value his at this point and how much they want Allen.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Seems to me Allen as very low value (age, contract, performance, health).

Wouldn't it have been better (aside from tanking) to have traded Allen and kept deSmith? We'd have had two .910++ goalies.

 

[bcv]

I think it’s more than fair to say that Suzuki would still be our best center when comparing their track records. People are claiming that Dach is our best center based on a very small sample size and some preseason games. This claim is way more of a speculation, not even close really.

You say Suzuki would’ve been better.

I say Dach would’ve been better.

It’s all speculation.

 

[The Great Weal]

You say Suzuki would’ve been better.

I say Dach would’ve been better.

It’s all speculation.

You’re actually purely speculating as you’re solely using a small sample size whereas I’m using seasons worth of evidence for Suzuki. It’s really not the same level of speculation.

 

[bcv]

You’re actually purely speculating as you’re solely using a small sample size whereas I’m using seasons worth of evidence for Suzuki. It’s really not the same level of speculation.

 

[The Great Weal]

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Nick Suzuki: 235 points in 322 games
Kirby Dach: 99 points in 212 games

That's firm evidence. Maybe your next speculation is that Gustav Lindstrom will win the Norris 8 times in a row since there is no firm evidence that can say otherwise

 

[Kosseca]

Wouldn't it have been better (aside from tanking) to have traded Allen and kept deSmith? We'd have had two .910++ goalies.

if I recall correctly, KH promised Allen that he would not be traded and said to DeSmith that he would be moved asap.

While it make more sense to trade him, I'm also thinking that Allen may not be the likely guy to go. He has a LNTC and KH promised may still hold. It would need quite a set of circumstances to get Allen to be ok with a move after all that.

 

[bcv]

Nick Suzuki: 235 points in 322 games
Kirby Dach: 99 points in 212 games

That's firm evidence. Maybe your next speculation is that Gustav Lindstrom will win the Norris 8 times in a row since there is no firm evidence that can say otherwise

If Lindstrom played at that level, I'd have no problem with speculating it.

Dach has proved, every time he played with the Habs, he had a level above he could reach.

Will he reach it? There's no guarantee, but there's a chance.

Just relax, man. I'm just properly using a word.

 

[Kosseca]

You say Suzuki would’ve been better.

I say Dach would’ve been better.

It’s all speculation.

it is, but one scenario is more likely then the other

 

[bcv]

it is, but one scenario is more likely then the other

Yes, I agree but it's still what speculation is.

 

[ReHabs]

If Lindstrom played at that level, I'd have no problem with speculating it.

Dach has proved, every time he played with the Habs, he had a level above he could reach.

Will he reach it? There's no guarantee, but there's a chance.

Just relax, man. I'm just properly using a word.

I know you think I’m the Grinch but did Dach prove anything? He’s still a work in progress. He’s an oft-injured work in progress. Why pump his tires? He’s never even scored 50pts a season.

 

[sampollock]

time will tell for Dach.. but my hopes are high on this kid

 

[jrom]

You can't possibly be talking about Strauss Mann right

 

[Deebs]

On Insider Trading just now, Pierre LeBrun said that the Habs are fielding calls on Jake Allen. Nothing imminent but should heat up after the break. Devils and Canes have called

 

[sampollock]

On Insider Trading just now, Pierre LeBrun said that the Habs are fielding calls on Jake Allen. Nothing imminent but should heat up after the break. Devils and Canes have called

Leader of maybes
Kent is pretty secret

 

[salbutera]

On Insider Trading just now, Pierre LeBrun said that the Habs are fielding calls on Jake Allen. Nothing imminent but should heat up after the break. Devils and Canes have called

Both teams are heavy analytics decision driven and have seen Allen’s track record of browser line elite sv% when used 36GP or less with load management included (time of between games / limited practices) and viewed league wide as a great teammate & mentor for young goalies

 

[sampollock]

However, according to information shared by David Pagnotta, the general manager of the Canadiens, Kent Hughes, could surprise by acquiring a new player between now and the trade deadline

 

[salbutera]

However, according to information shared by David Pagnotta, the general manager of the Canadiens, Kent Hughes, could surprise by acquiring a new player between now and the trade deadline

Nothing says HuGo can’t both acquire targeted younger assets & trade older assets

Not mutually exclusive

 

[Deebs]

However, according to information shared by David Pagnotta, the general manager of the Canadiens, Kent Hughes, could surprise by acquiring a new player between now and the trade deadline

Where was this? Maybe it's trading Allen for said new player.....ya never know

 

[The Great Weal]

Allen for a player makes more sense than Allen for a pick

 

[salbutera]

Allen for a player makes more sense than Allen for a pick

Yup - Gorton & Hughes have both said multiple times their picks are now collateral to make deals for NHL ready assets, and focus is not to keep adding draft picks

 

[sampollock]

Where was this? Maybe it's trading Allen for said new player.....ya never know

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Yup - Gorton & Hughes have both said multiple times their picks are now collateral to make deals for NHL ready assets, and focus is not to keep adding draft picks

I agree with them
Go get guys