HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Miller Time]

Question for all of you.

Hughes in the last 2 offseason has traded for Dach and Newhook. 2 1st rd drafted players early in their careers that were not fully developed and showed promised of breaking out.

Do you think Hughes will target a 3rd this offseason? If so who do you think it will be? 2 obvious names to me would be Zegras & Lafrenière

Not sure they makes sense or are targets but I am curious to see who you all think

Who would you say?

I think he will attempt to do so...

Zegras, Kakko, Laf, Krebs, Holtz, Mercer, Farabee are some names that make sense if they are looking for a more established player they beleive ready to step into a bigger role/opportunity.

Berggren, Reichel, Holloway, Perreault, Dellandrea types could make sense if they want to give up less and target someone a bit more unproven/struggling to crack NHL regular that they view as having high upside

I think that kind of targeting is more likely if they pull the trigger before the deadline. If they wait till the summer, than I think they may well target a big-ticket established elite player either via UFA (Stamkos/Nylander/Reinhart/Guentzel sweepstakes) or a bigger trade (Kaprizov/Crosby )

 

[The Great Weal]

Dvorak is gone if they can get something decent for him without retention. Someone (could be Friedman) reported Habs will look to extend Monahan in the new year.

Monahan's play has completely fallen off a cliff. He's a PP specialist winger at the moment.

so with 0 C depth, dvorak is the one to stay over monahan?
Who plays 1st PP? Who can play wing? who has more offence?
Personally I think if monahan stays healthy they might resign him.
They don't know how Dach will respond until he actually plays games and
the forward depth is so atrocious they both might end up staying

Yes because he's under a contract next year. Monahan isn't a center anymore or else they'd be playing him over Jake Evans.

 

[Kosseca]

Monahan's play has completely fallen off a cliff. He's a PP specialist winger at the moment.

Yes because he's under a contract next year. Monahan isn't a center anymore or else they'd be playing him over Jake Evans.

I'm not so sure the Monahan isn't a C, or isn't viewed by MSL as a C anymore. Fact of the mater is that the current lineup lack skills to do 4 lines that doesn't suck. Putting aside the CC/Suzuki/Slaf line, you are left with a bunch of 3rd liners. If Evans and Dvorak are more effective in the middle, then you are left with few options on the wings. Factor in MSL's dislike of Ylo.... you have to put Monahan, who's more versatile on the wing to compress your talent on the top lines.

MSL probably gamble when he put the Monahan-Evans-Anderson line together, but it paid off. He wont break that line now. That said, i'm sure that in an ideal world, Monahan would C the 3rd line, while Dach and Suzuki C the top 2. Dvorak can be put in a canon and shot on the moon!

 

[McGees]

We will take a run at Nylander imo.
If we are already finishing in no man’s land, then we aren’t ‘rushing’ the rebuild to sign someone like him.
Leafs will offer at least 10 so you’d need to open the bank for him 11 min.
We haven’t been able to draft a ppg player so this is only option - I’m for it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Kakko out of NY.. don't think Lafreniere is available anymore and don't think Zegras is the type of player they'd have any interest in.

Kakko shouldn't cost a 1st. Hopefully anyways

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Monahan's play has completely fallen off a cliff. He's a PP specialist winger at the moment.

Yes because he's under a contract next year. Monahan isn't a center anymore or else they'd be playing him over Jake Evans.

Don't know if the should try to sign him but apparently they intend to try (or at least get an idea what he would want). He is still on 50 pt pace though.

 

[Kosseca]

Kakko shouldn't cost a 1st. Hopefully anyways

I would aim for a guy that can play C and W and with more skill then Kakko. We may have a good line with CC/Suzuki/Slaf for the future and I hope Dach can stay healty going forward, but I would want some "safety net" option with a player that could complete a line with him and could take some faceoff + replace him temporarily if he goes down again.

We are bone bare at C. If Monahan leave (traded or not resigned) then you rely on Dvorak and Evans....scary though

 

[Deus ex machina]

I'm not so sure the Monahan isn't a C, or isn't viewed by MSL as a C anymore. Fact of the mater is that the current lineup lack skills to do 4 lines that doesn't suck. Putting aside the CC/Suzuki/Slaf line, you are left with a bunch of 3rd liners. If Evans and Dvorak are more effective in the middle, then you are left with few options on the wings. Factor in MSL's dislike of Ylo.... you have to put Monahan, who's more versatile on the wing to compress your talent on the top lines.

MSL probably gamble when he put the Monahan-Evans-Anderson line together, but it paid off. He wont break that line now. That said, i'm sure that in an ideal world, Monahan would C the 3rd line, while Dach and Suzuki C the top 2. Dvorak can be put in a canon and shot on the moon!

You might be right about the C thing but his play has been poor for a while now.
He had another bad game against the Jets yesterday. Made a ton of turnovers.
I don't know what's happening with him, but it's very worrisome.

I was all for resigning him but i'm not so sure anymore, unless the AAV is low.

 

[Kosseca]

You might be right about the C thing but his play has been poor for a while now.
He had another bad game against the Jets yesterday. Made a ton of turnovers.
I don't know what's happening with him, but it's very worrisome.

I was all for resigning him but i'm not so sure anymore, unless the AAV is low.

play too much? small injurie? I agree that defensively, he's getting beat to often. Offensively he seems to be "ok".

 

[Deus ex machina]

play too much? small injurie? I agree that defensively, he's getting beat to often. Offensively he seems to be "ok".

I don't know. I can't believe that they'd let him play injured again.
He still has his hockey sense and hands but the rest of his game took a dive.

 

[The Great Weal]

I'm not so sure the Monahan isn't a C, or isn't viewed by MSL as a C anymore. Fact of the mater is that the current lineup lack skills to do 4 lines that doesn't suck. Putting aside the CC/Suzuki/Slaf line, you are left with a bunch of 3rd liners. If Evans and Dvorak are more effective in the middle, then you are left with few options on the wings. Factor in MSL's dislike of Ylo.... you have to put Monahan, who's more versatile on the wing to compress your talent on the top lines.

MSL probably gamble when he put the Monahan-Evans-Anderson line together, but it paid off. He wont break that line now. That said, i'm sure that in an ideal world, Monahan would C the 3rd line, while Dach and Suzuki C the top 2. Dvorak can be put in a canon and shot on the moon!

MSL could easily just go Anderson-Monahan-Gallagher as the 2nd line if he thought Monahan was still a solid center and doesn't like Ylonen. I'm sure they will look at someone else for next year as the 3C unless they don't find a taker for Dvorak.

 

[therocket9]

I would aim for a guy that can play C and W and with more skill then Kakko. We may have a good line with CC/Suzuki/Slaf for the future and I hope Dach can stay healty going forward, but I would want some "safety net" option with a player that could complete a line with him and could take some faceoff + replace him temporarily if he goes down again.

We are bone bare at C. If Monahan leave (traded or not resigned) then you rely on Dvorak and Evans....scary though

What do you need a safety net at center if you are rebuilding.

 

[The Great Weal]

Question for all of you.

Hughes in the last 2 offseason has traded for Dach and Newhook. 2 1st rd drafted players early in their careers that were not fully developed and showed promised of breaking out.

Do you think Hughes will target a 3rd this offseason? If so who do you think it will be? 2 obvious names to me would be Zegras & Lafrenière

Not sure they makes sense or are targets but I am curious to see who you all think

Who would you say?

I don't think he will unless it's for a 3rd line center type player. We are overcrowded on the wings and backend.

 

[Kosseca]

What do you need a safety net at center if you are rebuilding.

Rebuilding or not, they have no depth at C. Dach and Suzuki are the only two legit top 2C in the organization. Even in Laval they dont have a guy with that type of potential. Newhook seems to be a better fit on the wing (maybe he can help for a game or two at C), and after that nada.

 

[jrom]

I can ses KH looking for Krebs in Buffalo or Tippett in Philly

Haven’t seen him play post draft, I wonder about Alex Turcotte as a potential reclamation project (unless he’s done with injuries)

 

[HuGort]

The thought of signing Nylander and not having to lose any picks or prospects is very attractive. If he can he had in the $10M range and added to a top 6 that includes Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Slaf, and hopefully a top 10 draft forward, that’s really good depth throughout the lineup and a major take away from divisional rival Leafs who you know Nylander will light the f*** up every time we play them.

I’d imagine Dach could explode as a Center with Nylander as his winger, giving Habs two top lines and PPs to role out.

Habs need that one big scorer.

 

[MtlSars]

We will take a run at Nylander imo.
If we are already finishing in no man’s land, then we aren’t ‘rushing’ the rebuild to sign someone like him.
Leafs will offer at least 10 so you’d need to open the bank for him 11 min.
We haven’t been able to draft a ppg player so this is only option - I’m for it.

Omg please no. There is no denying he's talented but those stats are inflated playing on the leaf PP for what 5 years now. He shies away from contact and tough play often. That guy will score 60 pts on the Habs, very few wingers are worth 11m in this league and I doubt he's one of them.

Keep that money to take a run at Draisatl or something

 

[Adam Michaels]

Habs have D. Habs have goalies.

 

[vokiel]

Habs have D. Habs have goalies.

Yes... But we want 1st round picks right?

 

[Bottle Rocket]

Yes... But we want 1st round picks right?

Yes, multiple ones. Our players are gold.

 

[blueberry]

Our defensemen have no real worth yet.

 

[Andrei79]

Omg please no. There is no denying he's talented but those stats are inflated playing on the leaf PP for what 5 years now. He shies away from contact and tough play often. That guy will score 60 pts on the Habs, very few wingers are worth 11m in this league and I doubt he's one of them.

Keep that money to take a run at Draisatl or something

Draisaitl would be a dream come true, but truthfully it's never going to happen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Draisaitl would be a dream come true, but truthfully it's never going to happen.

If it happens he's mailing it in PLD style.

 

[HuGort]

Habs have D. Habs have goalies.

Chance to move Savard and Allen?

 

[CanadienShark]

I am pretty sure Kings are not interested in Jack Allen.

They are looking for # type 3 goalie and not ready to sell Turcotte cheaply.

Turcotte did not get another concussion just last week.

He is already skating.

Maybe if he spends enough time in Ontario, he'll demand a trade to Quebec.