Cgy has one of the worst positions in the league… if linholm hanifin leave they ll start a rebuild while having Kadri Huberdeau on the books for 6/8 more years..
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season
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Cgy has one of the worst positions in the league… if linholm hanifin leave they ll start a rebuild while having Kadri Huberdeau on the books for 6/8 more years..
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Sterling Archer
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The team is collapsing and will hopefully be in full rebuild by 2024
I think of the two picks received for Monahan that might be used to get a much younger uninjured player just like him. Thank you Mr. Treliving.
Who specifically is a much younger experienced top 6 player you would consider to be a good replacement in our core for Monahan? What would it cost to get him?
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I could see the Isles overpaying for Monahan, they are barely scoring any goals.
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Hope they collapse hard in 2025! Bad way to go into a rebuild with trading a first round.
Monahan has more points than any Calgary players lol. I still can't believe, they give us a first round pick to take Monahan. Absolute steal for the Habs!
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The first we receive from Calgary will likely be Florida's 2025 first. Florida is looking like a playoff team. So the pick will probably be in the 16 - 32 range. Hard to say exactly where in that range. Hopefully not 31 again.
They still lose a first round pick. They will be forced to go into a rebuild. Is kinda similar to us losing a first round pick for Dvorak. If Bergevin did not panic and waited. We could have traded with Arizona for a second round pick.
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Yes very similar. We lost KK (or a 1st) and Danault and got Dvo.
Flames lost Monahan and a 1st and got Kadri.
The thing is the Flames had built a great team before Tkachuk and Gaudreau decided they didn't want to play in Canada/Calgary. It's on the GM for not realizing that though. Whereas Bergevin built a shit team that got even shittier when he didn't match the KK offer sheet and let Danault walk over 500k.
Matheson should get us at least a 1st if we wait until the right time to trade him. I don't think right now is the time.
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Don’t Habs have option to take the pick in next years draft? Depending on the projected situation, may be a better pick then in 25’
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I think we can only take the pick in '24 if it's after 20th overall. It doesn't look like Calgary will make the playoffs though.
He's been a solid addition to the team and makes a noticeable difference on the ice. People more knowledgeable than me can probably find a younger player of Dach's age who compares to him if it comes to that.
Aside his on-ice performance, I think players with Monahan's attributes are hard to find and getting two high picks (one for sure) for him gives the team resources that may help acquire a younger version of Monahan or, at least, increase the odds of drafting one if needed. I look at what Newhook and Dach costs in resources so I'm thinking it should be the same or perhaps higher ( a defensemen?) if Hughes goes that route.
Meanwhile, simply a great trade for Hughes. He got the best player and good future assets.
As I said, If I was the Oil I would want better, but here we go. Allen has a .911 save % which would trim 15 goals against on their current goalies. So assume he would have played half the games that still means 7-8 less goals.
Add in Savard as they need a good defensive RHD.
Wonder what we could get for Savard and Allen. Especially if we retain.
Add in Savard as they need a good defensive RHD.
Wonder what we could get for Savard and Allen. Especially if we retain.
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There's no way Edmonton could afford that. That's like $7.35m in cap & they have only $250,000 in space. We could only retain on one. It's not enough even if we take back Foegele.
Calgary should have gone in rebuild after losing Gaudreau for nothing. Tkachuk alone would have bring multiple first round picks. No need to sign Kadri and keeping Monahan would have saved a first round pick. 2023 to 2026 are great years to draft. Solid draft with elite player in the top 3. There rebuild could have been quick. Now they are stuck with two heavy contracts.
Danault has smart. He pretty much knew it has over for Weber and Price. Going into rebuild with the habs would have been painful. Also if you had the choice between 5.5m in Montreal vs LA. 10/10 you choose LA. Less pressure, good team and good weather. Bergevin would have never been capable of keeping him with the Habs with out over paying him.
Calgary should have done the rebuild but the owner wouldn't allow it.
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That's a lot of caproom Oilers be taking on. They up against cap. How you project they do it?
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Even if they make it is Mtl choice to take the 2024 pick 20-32 or take the 2025 pick which come with a flow chart of conditions… Regardless of the situation the move is to differ to 2025 and hope. I can’t see any senario in which we make the pick in 2024…
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If you look at Florida's roster after this season they're gonna have a lot of turnover. First of all Reinhart is gonna get a substantial raise, he could get 9+ million if he keeps this up. He alone is going to eat into their depth for next season should they resign him, if they don't they instantly get much worse. There are 7 forwards going to free agency at this point, Cousins, Lundell, Lomberg, Gadjovich all on expiring contracts, I'm fairly certain most will be looking for more money.
On defence it gets even better. Forsling, Montour, Ekman-Larsson, Kulikov and Reilly are all UFAs with Mahura becoming an RFA. I think every single one of them will be looking for a raise from what they're currently getting paid. All in only 2 defenceman are signed for next year over there: Ekblad and Mikkola. It will likely be a much different looking team next year no matter how things play out.
They'll have around 29 million to sign all of those guys. After Reinhart signs there will be some tough decisions to be made but I'm fairly sure this is their best iteration they will have; next year will be worse.
With that kind of instability coming due all at the end of this year and us only needing a bottom 10 finish next year for their pick to transfer to Calgary we might get a perfect confluence of events. The situation is better than we think, we have a reasonable shot cause Calgary is gonna be terrible.
In any case it was a fun ride last time we depended on Florida for a top pick. Might as well strap in for a second time.
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I take Danault to his word when he said he left because if his role. He saw himself doing what he's done in L.A. the past two seasons. And MB didn't.
If we trade Allen, we need a 3rd goalie. Edmonton needs defensive acumen, grit and veteran leadership.
It needs to be a bigger deal.
To Edmonton:
1.925 Allen to 2025 50% retained
6.500 Gallagher to 2027
3.500 Savard to 2025
0.775 Ylonen to 2024 RFA
To Montreal:
2024 1st round pick
0.863 P. Broberg to 2024 RFA
5.000 Campbell to 2027
2.750 Foegele to 2024
2.100 McLeod to 2025 RFA
2.750 Kulak to 2026
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