Trade the bum. Can't be focusing on culture when what we needs talent
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season
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the only moves right now i think are to prepare us to race to the bottom.
Yesterday was insane. Monahan, caufield and Suzuki. that's it.
no one else can score up front. it's the reason they were quadruple shifted at the end of the game and OT.
Even the leafs and their shitty tending and D can put up 5 in the third because of their 3 headed monster.
We're not even close and with Dach and Newhook (who led habs with paltry 6 ES goals) out, it's a f***ing disaster offensively.
Hughes has tons of work ahead of him.
Unless he's building the nashville predators of 2013-17 which won because of goaltending and D.
Yesterday was insane. Monahan, caufield and Suzuki. that's it.
no one else can score up front. it's the reason they were quadruple shifted at the end of the game and OT.
Even the leafs and their shitty tending and D can put up 5 in the third because of their 3 headed monster.
We're not even close and with Dach and Newhook (who led habs with paltry 6 ES goals) out, it's a f***ing disaster offensively.
Hughes has tons of work ahead of him.
Unless he's building the nashville predators of 2013-17 which won because of goaltending and D.
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24 yo decent size and skills, had a 70pts season last year, the issue is that is next contract will be expensive and is trade value will be significant probably more expensive than Newhook… He isn’t great defensively, on the soft side and good percentage of his point come from the PP…
unless they want someone like Monahan or Anderson or Gallagher or Dvorak with Allen not sure there will be a fit…
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salbutera
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No because Savard still has 1-more season left on his present contract vs being UFA when TBay acquired him
Also, I simply don’t see HuGo wanting to move Savard out this season to continue the grooming of the young D
Having said all that…. how much of a must win playoffs is this for the Leafs? Enough to make an all in type deal to acquire multiple playoff sturdy & defensively aware veteran elements and in turn sacrifice a young asset like Knies
Gravity
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I don't know why there's a Xhekaj thread on the trade board. You simply don't trade guys like Xhekaj. On the 3rd pairing come playoff time with a Struble for example, they will punish the opposition every shift and you need that to win series.
I can definitely see a Xhekaj - Struble 3rd pairing for the playoffs, but that would mean splitting a shutdown pairing of Guhle- Reinbacher to insulate weaker defensive players like Hutson and Mailloux.
Guhle - Mailloux
Hutson- Reinbacher
Xhexkaj - Struble
Instead of...
Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Struble
Xhekaj - Mailloux
I'm not sure what is better, because Guhle-Reinbacher and Xhekaj-Mailloux can also be punishing pairings...
Guhle - Mailloux
Hutson- Reinbacher
Xhexkaj - Struble
Instead of...
Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Struble
Xhekaj - Mailloux
I'm not sure what is better, because Guhle-Reinbacher and Xhekaj-Mailloux can also be punishing pairings...
MarkJ
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Gravity
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This means Barron and Harris are gonzo. I can certainly live with Harris being gonzo but not so sure about Barron.
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Monahan: middle 6 center or wing, win lot of faceoff, good on the PP, good bet, very cheap expiring deal
Team: most playoff team.
Value: 1st+prospect
Savard: reliable D physical and experience for 2 playoff run
Team: contending team
Value: 1st + prospect (considering he as 1 more year and we need RD you don’t trade him unless your getting top value).
Allen: .900 SV% veteran goalie.
Team: EDM, CAR, NJ,TOR, BUF, SEA
Value: 3rd + expiring contract or AHL G (he likely has very little value but the fact that so many team are struggling in nets and that we are able to take a contract back we should be able to squeeze something out)
Dvorak: 3rd line C great faceoff for 2 playoff run might be a bit expensive.
Team: playoff team
Value: 2x2nd
Team: most playoff team.
Value: 1st+prospect
Savard: reliable D physical and experience for 2 playoff run
Team: contending team
Value: 1st + prospect (considering he as 1 more year and we need RD you don’t trade him unless your getting top value).
Allen: .900 SV% veteran goalie.
Team: EDM, CAR, NJ,TOR, BUF, SEA
Value: 3rd + expiring contract or AHL G (he likely has very little value but the fact that so many team are struggling in nets and that we are able to take a contract back we should be able to squeeze something out)
Dvorak: 3rd line C great faceoff for 2 playoff run might be a bit expensive.
Team: playoff team
Value: 2x2nd
Monahan, if healthy until then, likely worth a late 1st and a prospect.
Doubt Savard is actually worth a 1st, much less a 1st and a prospect.
Dvorak is likely only worth a 2nd and a 3rd round pick, at best.
If we can unload Allen without holding back any Cap, a 7th round pick would be enough, IMO.
Barron might have some value in a trade as an offensive D with PP upside, but he's really not all that. He remains soft in his own zoned his decision-making is doubtful, at best.
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God that would be awesome but doubt it happens. His two way game isn't the best, he's inconsistent, and kinda soft but man the offensive creativity and the skating is so f***ing good.
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I don’t disagree but the thing is with both Savard and Dvorak they still have a year left so a team trading for them would get them for 2 playoff run also why trade them this year if the return won’t be any better than it would be next year… I mean it is pretty easy to see the impact Savard has on the team on the ice but he is just as valuable mentoring are young Dman so moving him isn’t a priority, the offer need to be worth it, Dvorak might have better value next year with a full summer of training and in both case retaining would be less of a issue.
Allen is value has to be very low, but pretty sure we could squeeze something depending on how big the camp dump we are taking on,
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Start trading Kent, I have a bad feeling about the older guys going down to injuries in the short future
sampollock
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the gamble on holding on to them, is to high
look at Sean M last year...
someone will pay ok for Savard
I do agree that there’s zero sense to improve the team at this point unless it’s to improve the future ie. another young reclamation project. They still need some very high picks. This is not a year where they need to compete.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Teams very rarely make those moves this early.
OldCraig71
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Totally disagree. I’m sure teams are interested in Monahan, Savard and even Anderson. Especially approaching the deadline and taking into account injuries. Now, yes, Anderson’s contract would require retention, but in the right circumstances, he’d be more effective than he currently is.
sampollock
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Anderson and Savard would just be available again next year. Monahan would likely sign another 1 year contract with Montreal.
If no one is offering much for Monahan now then there is nothing lost even if he signs somewhere else next season.
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