HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Runner77]

I have no inside information but it's obvious to me that teams would be willing to trade a 1st rounder for Xhekaj. I'm just not sure how high a 1st or what the "+" would be.

Unicorn factor definitely drives value but it would be insane for an organization that is so size and grit challenged to contemplate going that route.

No doubt that these speculations are fuelled by talk show hosts/ bloggers who are reading too much into Xhekaj’s demotion and/ or who may be looking to offset slow news days.

 

[26Mats]

That doesn't say that teams are calling for Xhekaj or that Xhekaj is on the market. Brunet just thinks that teams would be willing to trade a 1st round pick for Xhekaj, which wouldnt be surprising at all. He obviously has that kind of value.

I know most wouldn't want to trade Xhekaj for a 1st.

I would be interested to see what 1st a team is offering. 30th overall? 20th? 15th? 12? ...

 

[salbutera]

I have no inside information but it's obvious to me that teams would be willing to trade a 1st rounder for Xhekaj. I'm just not sure how high a 1st or what the "+" would be.

I also think that it would be unwise for Hughes to trade Xhekaj for a 1st in a one for one swap.

I think too many people are overreacting to Xekaj being sent to Laval. All this does is open up opportunities for the org
- opportunity to evaluate Struble in NHL setting, assess areas requiring further development

- opportunity to refine Xekaj’s game outside the spotlight

- opportunity to evaluate the teams on ice play & areas of growth without having their bodyguard around

 

[DAChampion]

I think too many people are overreacting to Xekaj being sent to Laval. All this does is open up opportunities for the org
- opportunity to evaluate Struble in NHL setting, assess areas requiring further development

- opportunity to refine Xekaj’s game outside the spotlight

- opportunity to evaluate the teams on ice play & areas of growth without having their bodyguard around

I'm not overreacting. I think the move can work out based on various reasons including the ones you mention.

 

[Miller Time]

Unicorn factor definitely drives value but it would be insane for an organization that is so size and grit challenged to contemplate going that route.

No doubt that these speculations are fuelled by talk show hosts/ bloggers who are reading too much into Xhekaj’s demotion and/ or who may be looking to offset slow news days.

agreed... i don't think the team would actively consider trading him unless the offer was ridiculously high... in the vein of the Jeannot trade last year. At that kind of return (5 picks, including a 1st and 2nd, and a decent prospect), hard to say no despite the internal need for more of what X brings.

 

[sampollock]

#1 pick for jackeye?? I don't think so.

 

[Milhouse40]

The one thing I don't get in all those Xhekaj talks........

Since when a team working on a trade, for a 1st round pick no less, send that player in the minors?
Isn't supposed to be the other way around?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Drouin was acquired June 15 2017. Radulov and Markov were lost after July 1st. Their departures had nothing to do with us acquiring Drouin. Those were botched contract negotiations. Bergevin was memed for how he handled contract negotiations that summer.

I disagree. If Bergevin was going to sign Radulov, he never would've hit free agency.

 

[Milhouse40]

According to Lebrun, Habs didn't received any offer for either Primeau or Allen.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I think the report about Allen being worth a 4th round pick at 50% retention is probably correct, that's how I see it too. At that valuation he is a cap dump, I wouldn't add 1.9m in dead salary for a 4th round pick if we were a third party in a trade.

Maybe he will be worth more next year when the cap goes up, but it will all depend on his play. Montembeault isn't getting moved now, and Primeau has proven that he's worthless so I don't really see any ground breaking on a goalie trade anytime soon, at least not for a significant return

 

[sampollock]

The one thing I don't get in all those Xhekaj talks........

Since when a team working on a trade, for a 1st round pick no less, send that player in the minors?
Isn't supposed to be the other way around?

No way habs get a 1st for him... not a chance

 

[Runner77]

According to Lebrun, Habs didn't received any offer for either Primeau or Allen.

LeBrun has been saying this for several weeks now, he had even included Monty when he initially mentioned that the Habs had not received any offers for any of their goalies. Contrast that with other pundits who claimed the Habs had been in trade talks for them.

Most recently you had Raphael Doucet of La Poche Bleue saying that a well-informed source confirmed to him that a goalie move would be happening soon and that it would not involve waivers.

Also, Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun, claims that the Jackets and Sabres have held talks with Hughes about one of the Habs goalies. I don’t know how Garrioch knows this or how credible he might be.

 

[morhilane]

The one thing I don't get in all those Xhekaj talks........

Since when a team working on a trade, for a 1st round pick no less, send that player in the minors?
Isn't supposed to be the other way around?

Habs aren't looking to trade Xhekaj right now. It's just people spreading rumors.

But the Habs will need to trade LDs to make place for new prospects, even the AHL should be crowded next year.

 

[morhilane]

Also, Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun, claims that the Jackets and Sabres have held talks with Hughes about one of the Habs goalies. I don’t know how Garrioch knows this or how credible he might be.

Bruce Garrioch was the only true insider of the Senators for years, literally Melnyk's mouth piece. He's been around for 30+ years, he knows a lots of people around the NHL. But he says a lots of BS...

 

[McGees]

From what I'm being told from sources around the league, there HAS been talks between the clubs...
Now that's not to say that the deal is anywhere close to happening...
but as we've seen before, they aren't just gonna give the player away...
but having said that, all it takes is one phone call and things can change in a hurry...

 

[Kimota]

According to Lebrun, Habs didn't received any offer for either Primeau or Allen.

Great it's simple then: waive one.

 

[26Mats]

Great it's simple then: waive one.

There will be more pressure to do that when Savard and Harris return.

I have to think Lindstrom and Kovacevic have more trade value than Primeau and Allen. So you either send Struble down, or you have to waive someone.

Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Barron
Harris - Kovacevic
LIndstrom

IMO there would be pressure to trade a Dman, because Struble is ready. We should make a spot for him by the TDL.

 

[HuGort]

According to Lebrun, Habs didn't received any offer for either Primeau or Allen.

Allen unmovable since Hughes gave him that shitty contract. Hope he learns his lesson. Be vital for the future

 

[salbutera]

I disagree. If Bergevin was going to sign Radulov, he never would've hit free agency.

Radulov rumored ask since Jan’2017 was a 8-year deal which he wouldn’t budge from.

 

[salbutera]

No way habs get a 1st for him... not a chance

I prefer keeping Xekaj vs trading for a 20-something 1st rounder.

As Julien Brisebois said after Jeanott deal, “there a low probability any of the picks we surrendered will ever become NHL players, but we actually acquired an NHLer”

 

[sampollock]

Sam Pollock's theory was

"Who got the best player"

 

[Kimota]

There will be more pressure to do that when Savard and Harris return.

I have to think Lindstrom and Kovacevic have more trade value than Primeau and Allen. So you either send Struble down, or you have to waive someone.

Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Barron
Harris - Kovacevic
LIndstrom

IMO there would be pressure to trade a Dman, because Struble is ready. We should make a spot for him by the TDL.

Yea I guess we could put Harris and a goalie in a deal

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I prefer keeping Xekaj vs trading for a 20-something 1st rounder.

As Julien Brisebois said after Jeanott deal, “there a low probability any of the picks we surrendered will ever become NHL players, but we actually acquired an NHLer”

Makes sense, but you also have to consider that Xhekaj has had 2 shoulder injuries in his young career already and he might be damaged goods already.

Could not be, but you have to look and consider the options. Maybe you strike gold with him and things go downhill, or you have egg on your face.


Short, gotta consider a potential trade, but it might be better to keep him and ride him until he's not hurt all the time, or he's broken.

 

[calder candidate]

Drouin was acquired before Markov/Radulov left us. That wasn’t a desperation move. It was one made for political reasons. Tampa was in no position to hose us given the situation they had with the expansion draft.

They hose us especially because of the situation they were in, they had cap issue, lack D, Drouin was a headache and the odd man out for the expansion draft.
They solved all their issues and trade a over valued asset from a position of strength to improved a weakness with one move…. If it wasn’t a desperation move it was pretty close from MB to find a player for Radulov to play with or get French star.

 

[HuGort]

Makes sense, but you also have to consider that Xhekaj has had 2 shoulder injuries in his young career already and he might be damaged goods already.

Could not be, but you have to look and consider the options. Maybe you strike gold with him and things go downhill, or you have egg on your face.


Short, gotta consider a potential trade, but it might be better to keep him and ride him until he's not hurt all the time, or he's broken.

Dangerous to trade Wifi. He's uncommon player. Selling on the low right now.