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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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austin316 said:
Why are we so obsessed with a goalie trade? We would be lucky to get a 5th rounder for Allen and Primeau is only worth future considerations.
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I think we are more obsessed with what direction are we heading with Montembeault being signed. The decision has to be made on Primeau sooner or later.
This 3 tender impasse has to end.
 
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Rapala said:
This 3 tender impasse has to end.
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If they do something like
Montembeault: 40 games
Allen: 25 games
Primeau: 17 games

Allen gets a bit of the short end of the stick, but when he originally came here to be Price's backup the idea was to play something like 25-30 games. And close to 20 games for Primeau is fairly normal for a goalie's "rookie" year.

It may not be ideal but seems sustainable for the rest of the year, so I don't think Hughes is under as much pressure to make a move as fans think/want him to be.
 
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Sorinth said:
If they do something like
Montembeault: 40 games
Allen: 25 games
Primeau: 17 games

Allen gets a bit of the short end of the stick, but when he originally came here to be Price's backup the idea was to play something like 25-30 games. And close to 20 games for Primeau is fairly normal for a goalie's "rookie" year.

It may not be ideal but seems sustainable for the rest of the year, so I don't think Hughes is under as much pressure to make a move as fans think/want him to be.
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The thing is I'd like to know sooner than later how much Montembeault can shoulder 50 games would be ideal. We don't quite have a Swayman Ullmark situation brewing here.
 
Rapala said:
The thing is I'd like to know sooner than later how much Montembeault can shoulder 50 games would be ideal. We don't quite have a Swayman Ullmark situation brewing here.
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hab goalies are not in the rank of the b's.

I bet this goes on for some time yet. maybe feb?
 
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Draft said:
Have you checked out other backups across the league? For goalies with over 8gp, he's 31st with an 898 Sv%. All while playing behind MTL's defence. This would comfortably put him in weak starter/high-end backup territory. As he has been for most of his career.

Add on the Stanley Cup/playoff/international experience and well-recognized leadership abilities and you've got a guy worth his contract. There's a reason teams are interested in him.
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I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.
 
The Great Weal said:
I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.
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2.35 for Dreiger.




I'm just bored of the team and want a trade to tune in.

Habs are playing ok, but they're pretty meh. Laval f***ing sucks and the youngsters aren't doing anything on the score sheet lately..
 
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The Great Weal said:
I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.
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I think it's definitely true that more teams will be interested if salary goes back to MTL. However, there's no reason to think he won't deliver the same performance in the last year of his contract and teams aren't going to find significantly cheaper UFAs for next year.

If a team like Buffalo wants a solid backup goalie, I don't think the extra year will be a concern - especially not with the amount of space they have and reports of the cap going up considerably next year. If we're talking a team like Edmonton, his full contract is absolutely a deal breaker.
 
The Great Weal said:
I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.
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I think you haven't been paying attention other teams if you think Allen doesn't have positive value to get a pick.

That said, Driedger's on an expiring deal and only costs 2,35 mil against the cap when buried in the AHL (albeit with a higher actual salary). Montreal can handle the cap and salary in an Allen trade and need an AHL goalie who isn't crap.
 
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That is twice one of our players was deposited to the ice with no puck anywhere near them...

crickets

1-3-1 is bad enough but hooking holding and intereference makes it 10 times worse.
 
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Allen should have some value the issue is that he been pretty cold, he played mostly playoff team and most of our worst game as a team, not is fault but it is not inspiring for team looking for a goalie…
He should have value but if there nothing out there I feel like a guy like Driedger, Raanta, Comrie, Samsonov would be perfect a expiring get and a guy that would be a improvement in Laval.
 
ReHabs said:
Zegras has shown much more than Drouin did at the time of trade.

Besides, we cannot operate on the notion that skill-first players will be radioactive bad simply because Bergevin got dog-walked by Yzerman on that trade. If Drouin was acquired for relatively cheaper it would’ve been a great attempt to acquire genuine talent. Nobody could’ve predicted Drouin turned out to be a bust and to what degree.
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Yzerman did.
 
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therocket9 said:
Ethan Gauthier would be a good fit long term and also Easton Cowan depending how desperate leafs are to get a center like Monahan.
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I suspect that after this coming WJC, Cowan will become largely untouchable. He’s one of the greatest steals of the 2023 draft.

waitin425 said:
Demidov would suit that lineup nicely
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Demidov would suit any line up on any team. If he played in North Ameica, he would challenge Celibrini for 1OA.
 
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