HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[sampollock]

not saying that Allen is a big time goalie, but put a really good team in front of him with a solid D, then judge him

 

[Rapala]

Why are we so obsessed with a goalie trade? We would be lucky to get a 5th rounder for Allen and Primeau is only worth future considerations.

I think we are more obsessed with what direction are we heading with Montembeault being signed. The decision has to be made on Primeau sooner or later.
This 3 tender impasse has to end.

 

[Sorinth]

This 3 tender impasse has to end.

If they do something like
Montembeault: 40 games
Allen: 25 games
Primeau: 17 games

Allen gets a bit of the short end of the stick, but when he originally came here to be Price's backup the idea was to play something like 25-30 games. And close to 20 games for Primeau is fairly normal for a goalie's "rookie" year.

It may not be ideal but seems sustainable for the rest of the year, so I don't think Hughes is under as much pressure to make a move as fans think/want him to be.

 

[Rapala]

If they do something like
Montembeault: 40 games
Allen: 25 games
Primeau: 17 games

Allen gets a bit of the short end of the stick, but when he originally came here to be Price's backup the idea was to play something like 25-30 games. And close to 20 games for Primeau is fairly normal for a goalie's "rookie" year.

It may not be ideal but seems sustainable for the rest of the year, so I don't think Hughes is under as much pressure to make a move as fans think/want him to be.

The thing is I'd like to know sooner than later how much Montembeault can shoulder 50 games would be ideal. We don't quite have a Swayman Ullmark situation brewing here.

 

[sampollock]

The thing is I'd like to know sooner than later how much Montembeault can shoulder 50 games would be ideal. We don't quite have a Swayman Ullmark situation brewing here.

hab goalies are not in the rank of the b's.

I bet this goes on for some time yet. maybe feb?

 

[WeThreeKings]

hab goalies are not in the rank of the b's.

I bet this goes on for some time yet. maybe feb?

B's goalies are product of the system.

 

[sampollock]

B's goalies are product of the system.

yes they are... just saying our goalie's are not as good.

 

[Rapala]

B's goalies are product of the system.

As are their underlying numbers. Playing either of them on our club would certainly impact those numbers.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

yes they are... just saying our goalie's are not as good.

They aren't top goaltenders so it must be the system. Monty would probably do as well.

 

[salbutera]

https://x.com/rayferraro21/status/1732891406438453498?s=46&t=a3HPp5YfHU2XDo78oSJMFA

 

[The Great Weal]

Have you checked out other backups across the league? For goalies with over 8gp, he's 31st with an 898 Sv%. All while playing behind MTL's defence. This would comfortably put him in weak starter/high-end backup territory. As he has been for most of his career.

Add on the Stanley Cup/playoff/international experience and well-recognized leadership abilities and you've got a guy worth his contract. There's a reason teams are interested in him.

I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.

2.35 for Dreiger.




I'm just bored of the team and want a trade to tune in.

Habs are playing ok, but they're pretty meh. Laval f***ing sucks and the youngsters aren't doing anything on the score sheet lately..

 

[Draft]

I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.

I think it's definitely true that more teams will be interested if salary goes back to MTL. However, there's no reason to think he won't deliver the same performance in the last year of his contract and teams aren't going to find significantly cheaper UFAs for next year.

If a team like Buffalo wants a solid backup goalie, I don't think the extra year will be a concern - especially not with the amount of space they have and reports of the cap going up considerably next year. If we're talking a team like Edmonton, his full contract is absolutely a deal breaker.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I mean I'd love to be wrong and we get a nice return, I just don't think it's feasible. Admittedly, I didn't know how high Driedger's salary is so it would make sense for a Driedger+ for Allen trade. Laval desperately needs a goalie. But Allen for a pick alone won't get it done imo, especially with the extra year.

I think you haven't been paying attention other teams if you think Allen doesn't have positive value to get a pick.

That said, Driedger's on an expiring deal and only costs 2,35 mil against the cap when buried in the AHL (albeit with a higher actual salary). Montreal can handle the cap and salary in an Allen trade and need an AHL goalie who isn't crap.

 

[Rapala]

That is twice one of our players was deposited to the ice with no puck anywhere near them...

crickets

1-3-1 is bad enough but hooking holding and intereference makes it 10 times worse.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Joseph seems a lot like Byron. He generates chances just by his speed.

Even if it's just a 3rd, if the sens are still looking to sell him to help with cap, the Habs should look to it.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

not saying that Allen is a big time goalie, but put a really good team in front of him with a solid D, then judge him

They did, and he won a cup.

 

[Garry Valk]

Leafs suddenly may need a goalie. Allen could be a great fit, given they lack a vet.

 

[calder candidate]

Allen should have some value the issue is that he been pretty cold, he played mostly playoff team and most of our worst game as a team, not is fault but it is not inspiring for team looking for a goalie…
He should have value but if there nothing out there I feel like a guy like Driedger, Raanta, Comrie, Samsonov would be perfect a expiring get and a guy that would be a improvement in Laval.

 

[Whalers Fan]

They did, and he won a cup.

Allen was on the bench for all but 24 playoff minutes of that Cup win. He won that Cup in the same way that Michel Larocque won four Cups in Montreal.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Allen was on the bench for all but 24 playoff minutes of that Cup win. He won that Cup in the same way that Michel Larocque won four Cups in Montreal.

Lol, I’m aware, but when you’re trying to sell snake oil, it’s better not to deep dive into some facts.

 

[Kimota]

Habs are receiving tons of calls for X-Man. f*** that shit.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Zegras has shown much more than Drouin did at the time of trade.

Besides, we cannot operate on the notion that skill-first players will be radioactive bad simply because Bergevin got dog-walked by Yzerman on that trade. If Drouin was acquired for relatively cheaper it would’ve been a great attempt to acquire genuine talent. Nobody could’ve predicted Drouin turned out to be a bust and to what degree.

Yzerman did.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Ethan Gauthier would be a good fit long term and also Easton Cowan depending how desperate leafs are to get a center like Monahan.

I suspect that after this coming WJC, Cowan will become largely untouchable. He’s one of the greatest steals of the 2023 draft.

Demidov would suit that lineup nicely

Demidov would suit any line up on any team. If he played in North Ameica, he would challenge Celibrini for 1OA.

 

[sampollock]

They did, and he won a cup.

my point

Leafs suddenly may need a goalie. Allen could be a great fit, given they lack a vet.

Kent better hold on till they bleed. lol

Habs are receiving tons of calls for X-Man. f*** that shit.

reports?