HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[The Great Weal]

Regarding your Kovacevic comment in the prior post, he’s a 3rd pairing D, regardless of what he’s making and prone to a lot of lapses. He’s maybe worth a 3rd-4th rounder, his value is in the spot he frees up for our glut of Ds.

I mean I strongly disagree that he's only worth a 3rd or 4th. As mentioned, Kulak who was worse and more expensive got a 2nd. Kovacevic's value is in his contract which is an absolute bargain.

 

[Scriptor]

The key with Xhekaj is Montreal extending him for 8 years at 6th/7th D level money and seeing the Sheriff developing a top-4 D playing bottom pairing minutes by default.

Can that happen? Maybe.

 

[Scriptor]

Time will tell, but I won't be surprised at all if we see an elite or elite"ish" player make the Habs his preferred destination in the next 1-2 years...

Despite the narrative around here at times, reality is that there are many players who love the energy of playing in a city like Montreal... And with a young core that appears to be very bought in, playing for a HC & GM that approach player relationships from a much more modern/progressive pov, there will be young players out there that want to get away from the old school leadership cultures that are still prevalent in many organizations.

By summer of '25, I think we'll see just how impactful the Habs organizational shift has been & we'll start seeing the payoff both on the ice and in our player acquisition effectiveness.

Hughes will be armed with assets to trade for an elite player in the 2025 offseason; already two firsts, to seconds and two thirds, plus a better read on youngsters that may be good players, but redundant for the Habs, especially on D...

IMO, Montreal can package 1st round picks, 2nd round picks, one of Barron or Mailloux on the right side, Matheson on the left side, etc. for a premier young winger.

 

[austin316]

Why are we so obsessed with a goalie trade? We would be lucky to get a 5th rounder for Allen and Primeau is only worth future considerations.

 

[Mrb1p]

Hi just wondering if you guys would consider a Bruins 2025 protected first for Wifi? Thanks

No way.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

That's the thing, it's far more likely that he will always be soft and poor defensively, but if he manages to be at least Caufield level good in those aspects then it's fine. That's why it would be a buy low option. Playing with his best friend Caufield and a coach who he was raving about might be what it takes for him to become well rounded.

I wouldn't mind trading for Zegras, as long as people realize like Newhook he's a winger & not a center.

I wouldn't play him with Caufield though. Two poor defensive wingers together isn't a great idea.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Newhook-Dach-Zegras

....would be what we'd look like next year.

 

[The Great Weal]

I wouldn't mind trading for Zegras, as long as people realize like Newhook he's a winger & not a center.

I wouldn't play him with Caufield though. Two poor defensive wingers together isn't a great idea.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Newhook-Dach-Zegras

....would be what we'd look like next year.

I'm also not sure if Zegras and Newhook on the same line would be a good idea, but with Dach down the middle I'd feel more comfortable. If those two can feed Newhook for his shot we are looking good.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why are we so obsessed with a goalie trade? We would be lucky to get a 5th rounder for Allen and Primeau is only worth future considerations.

Because they can't keep 3 goalies all season.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Zegras has shown much more than Drouin did at the time of trade.

Besides, we cannot operate on the notion that skill-first players will be radioactive bad simply because Bergevin got dog-walked by Yzerman on that trade. If Drouin was acquired for relatively cheaper it would’ve been a great attempt to acquire genuine talent. Nobody could’ve predicted Drouin turned out to be a bust and to what degree.

My point is: having skill is not enough.

Not wanting Zegras doesn't automatically mean not wanting skill players.

 

[Mrb1p]

The key with Xhekaj is Montreal extending him for 8 years at 6th/7th D level money and seeing the Sheriff developing a top-4 D playing bottom pairing minutes by default.

Can that happen? Maybe.

Probably not with the way they are handling him. He looked absolutely pissed and disinterested tonight.

 

[Deus ex machina]

I mean I strongly disagree that he's only worth a 3rd or 4th. As mentioned, Kulak who was worse and more expensive got a 2nd. Kovacevic's value is in his contract which is an absolute bargain.

Sorry, but he's right.
Kovacevic is an honest player and seems like a good guy but he's barely NHL caliber.
The goals are nice, but he struggles a lot against better teams. He just can't keep up with the pace and that results in a lot of turnovers.
I'd be very surprised if a team is willing to give more than a 3rd for him.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm also not sure if Zegras and Newhook on the same line would be a good idea, but with Dach down the middle I'd feel more comfortable. If those two can feed Newhook for his shot we are looking good.

Zegras is not gonna be cheap, even if he has a down year and isn't the best player. I'd much rather go for someone else.

Anyway, what do we have that Anaheim would want ? Theyre the only team more stacked than us on D.

IMO we should maybe look at Buffalo, Colombus or Winnipeg for young forwards.

 

[LaP]

Remember Jonathan Drouin?

Just sayin'...

I don't think anybody is arguing trading Reinbacher+ for Zegras. Acquiring Drouin was not the problem the problem was the price we paid Segachev (one of the best dmen prospect) and a conditional 2nd (that TB could have collected by keeping Sergachev in junior for one last season)

 

[LaP]

Sorry, but he's right.
Kovacevic is an honest player and seems like a good guy but he's barely NHL caliber.
The goals are nice, but he struggles a lot against better teams. He just can't keep up with the pace and that results in a lot of turnovers.
I'd be very surprised if a team is willing to give more than a 3rd for him.

Important to note too that the top 6-8 teams are not giving it all against us. Our kids have yet to be tested against la crème giving it all in playoffs games. From what i see of Kova he really is a 7th dman of you aim for a cup.

 

[The Great Weal]

Sorry, but he's right.
Kovacevic is an honest player and seems like a good guy but he's barely NHL caliber.
The goals are nice, but he struggles a lot against better teams. He just can't keep up with the pace and that results in a lot of turnovers.
I'd be very surprised if a team is willing to give more than a 3rd for him.

He's without a doubt better than Kulak. I find his game to be very steady for a bottom pairing dman. I guess time will tell.

Zegras is not gonna be cheap, even if he has a down year and isn't the best player. I'd much rather go for someone else.

Anyway, what do we have that Anaheim would want ? Theyre the only team more stacked than us on D.

IMO we should maybe look at Buffalo, Colombus or Winnipeg for young forwards.

Could always do a 3way trade ala Dach.

Not sure what worthwhile player those teams would trade to us.

 

[Mrb1p]

He's without a doubt better than Kulak. I find his game to be very steady for a bottom pairing dman. I guess time will tell.

Could always do a 3way trade ala Dach.

Not sure what worthwhile player those teams would trade to us.

Quinn and krebs in Buffalo
Chinakhov and Johnson in colombus
Lucius, Lambert in Winnipeg.

Buffalo has way too many forwards and they need help at G and at D, albeit on the right side.
Chinakhov and Johnson are both odd-men out and Chinakhov has voiced discontent with Colombus.
Lucius and Lambert are just cool players, man.

 

[McGees]

Why all the talk about Zegras? He ask out?
Also Kovasevic is a legit NHLer. Second best sniper on the team lol.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Garrioch mentions that he hears Seattle reached out to Montreal regarding goaltenders. They're not satisfied with their goalies this year.

He also mentions that he hears Sabres have looked into Allen. They want a vet goalie to be with UPL.

 

[McGees]

Garrioch mentions that he hears Seattle reached out to Montreal regarding goaltenders. They're not satisfied with their goalies this year.

He also mentions that he hears Sabres have looked into Allen. They want a vet goalie to be with UPL.

Sabres should have got a goalie like yesterday.
Their mgmt does nothing to help them take next step.

 

[HuGort]

Garrioch mentions that he hears Seattle reached out to Montreal regarding goaltenders. They're not satisfied with their goalies this year.

He also mentions that he hears Sabres have looked into Allen. They want a vet goalie to be with UPL.

I guess Levi going to be a star didn't hold up

 

[Runner77]

I mean I strongly disagree that he's only worth a 3rd or 4th. As mentioned, Kulak who was worse and more expensive got a 2nd. Kovacevic's value is in his contract which is an absolute bargain.

Maybe a 3rd rounder but he won’t be worth more than Kulak. We’ll see.

 

[HuGort]

I mean I strongly disagree that he's only worth a 3rd or 4th. As mentioned, Kulak who was worse and more expensive got a 2nd. Kovacevic's value is in his contract which is an absolute bargain.

Kovacevic is serviceable NHL defenseman. He is right shot with size. Many clubs be looking for that near playoffs. Get about a 2nd. Maybe a throw in also where he has cheap contract

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I'm also not sure if Zegras and Newhook on the same line would be a good idea, but with Dach down the middle I'd feel more comfortable. If those two can feed Newhook for his shot we are looking good.

Yeah, already having Newhook & Caufield on seperate lines, as defensively not great already doesn't help if we add Zegras. We'd be pretty soft too.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Not interested in Zegras , baby shit soft. If we didint have caufield sure,

 

[xposbrad]

Not interested in Zegras. 5.75m for 1G on the year. We need goal scorers or a superstar. That's all we have in our system, borderline 2nd and 3rd liners. Time to shoot higher.