HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Scriptor]

Dougie Hamilton out indefinitely.

Think we can off load Savard?

Same type of D, right? Seriously?

 

[Scriptor]

Humans will only evolve when there is a collective iron will to privilege reason over emotion, and science over opinions.

Unfortunately, that collective will is nowhere on the horizon.

I digress... I'll let people carry on with their hockey discussions. What player are we bashing on right now, already?

There appears to be regular devolution rather than constant evolution with mankind.

Group think is the enemy as it leads to pitchforks and torches mentality.

 

[Scriptor]

He's having a tough year. Some players just need a change of scenery. Dach and Newhook come to mind, why not Zegras?

Is Caufield a player to win games? We've lost every season Caufield was here. Is Suzuki a player to win games? etc. Is Josh Anderson a player to win games?

Seems like a difficult question to answer -- all I know is Zegras is a very skilled and very young player who has high hockey IQ and has had two 60pt seasons in his very short career so far (and on a bad team, no less). MSL's system needs players like him. If we can acquire him for cheap it's a no brainer imo.

Why not Zegras?

There can be many reasons, but offensive talent isn't one.

If Zegras refuses to even consider his defensive assignments, he's not McDavid level good offensively that it wouldn't matter.

Zegras is basically PLD good offensively, minus the defensive upside.

MSL is only as good with players as their willingness to listen and apply his teachings.

 

[DAChampion]

Group think is the enemy as it leads to pitchforks and torches mentality.

Pitchforks and torches have their place.

 

[Kwikwi]

If Vancouver keep going. Id try to go for Lekkerimaki for Monahan.
Upgrade to Bluegar on the 3rd line.

 

[JRichard]

Well Allen isn't moveable unless we retain/take back salary and Primeau won't net more than a 5th in my opinion. I'd also like to see how he does against easier teams since he always gets the hardest teams.

Primeau? Last 2 seasons (8 games) played 4 non-po teams… nothing special there.

 

[habsfan891]

Something along the lines of Primeau for Broberg?

This is about the only way I'd be interested in taking a flyer on Broberg

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

One guy I would like to take a chance on who I think would flourish until MSL would be Farabee. He is stuck on a shit team with a dinosaur coach in Tortorella, but he has lots of speed, skill and is only 23 so I think he can breakout with a change of scenery.

We lack a left hand shot on the PP so he could help there, plus he'd give Suzuki or Dach another offensive guy to play with next year.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Zegras is a tik tok star, not a great hockey player which is why Anaheim won't pay him.

I suspect at this point Montreal fans would welcome any player who is a star, Tik Tok, or otherwise.

 

[sampollock]

I suspect at this point Montreal fans would welcome any player who is a star, Tik Tok, or otherwise.

starting to think that.... excuse my comment but... is he part of that jr team that is being investigated?

 

[Whalers Fan]

starting to think that.... excuse my comment but... is he part of that jr team that is being investigated?

Zegras played for the US NTDP as a teammate of Caufield and Jack Hughes -- he's not part of the Canadian National Team.

 

[sampollock]

Zegras played for the US NTDP as a teammate of Caufield and Jack Hughes -- he's not part of the Canadian National Team.

right duh sorry

 

[salbutera]

I suspect at this point Montreal fans would welcome any player who is a star, Tik Tok, or otherwise.

Of course they would, but the honeymoon phase will wear out really quick, given sophistication of the market, when they realize the player doesn’t understand the game of hockey!!

One guy I would like to take a chance on who I think would flourish until MSL would be Farabee. He is stuck on a shit team with a dinosaur coach in Tortorella, but he has lots of speed, skill and is only 23 so I think he can breakout with a change of scenery.

We lack a left hand shot on the PP so he could help there, plus he'd give Suzuki or Dach another offensive guy to play with next year.

Where does this come from, I see it posted ad nauseam?

It was Torts who coined the phase “safe is death” in NHL circles, during pre cap / dead puck era… he’s anything but a dinosaur coach

A good coach adjusts one’s system to the players they have at their disposal - the CBJ team in 19-20 played very similar hockey to that TBay Cup winning team in 03-04… oh yeah they had high end players.

His teams since haven’t had such luxury..

 

[RationalExpectations]

One guy I would like to take a chance on who I think would flourish until MSL would be Farabee. He is stuck on a shit team with a dinosaur coach in Tortorella, but he has lots of speed, skill and is only 23 so I think he can breakout with a change of scenery.

We lack a left hand shot on the PP so he could help there, plus he'd give Suzuki or Dach another offensive guy to play with next year.

Realize that PHI has a good record with one of the worst lineups in the league ?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why not Zegras?

There can be many reasons, but offensive talent isn't one.

If Zegras refuses to even consider his defensive assignments, he's not McDavid level good offensively that it wouldn't matter.

Zegras is basically PLD good offensively, minus the defensive upside.

MSL is only as good with players as their willingness to listen and apply his teachings.

Zegras is far better offensively than Dubois. Don't know about his attitude or defensive play.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Where does this come from, I see it posted ad nauseam?

It was Torts who coined the phase “safe is death” in NHL circles, during pre cap / dead puck era… he’s anything but a dinosaur coach

A good coach adjusts one’s system to the players they have at their disposal - the CBJ team in 19-20 played very similar hockey to that TBay Cup winning team in 03-04… oh yeah they had high end players.

His teams since haven’t had such luxury..

Over the last 16 seasons he coached since winning the cup, Tortorella has won a grand total of 4 playoff series. He continues to be recycled through teams mainly because he has success 2 decades ago.

He continues to be the same guy who is a hard ass and will bench and call out players and it usually doesn't take long before he wears out his welcome.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Realize that PHI has a good record with one of the worst lineups in the league ?

They have 3 more points than the Habs and finished not far behind them last year, Philly has a shitty team.

 

[ReHabs]

I suspect at this point Montreal fans would welcome any player who is a star, Tik Tok, or otherwise.

Apparently we’re bad people, not to say bad Habs fans, for wanting skilled players.

 

[Mrb1p]

With a year in the nhl already , it’s probably too long for the instant gratification generation

Im 31 for christs sakes

 

[ReHabs]

Why not Zegras?

There can be many reasons, but offensive talent isn't one.

If Zegras refuses to even consider his defensive assignments, he's not McDavid level good offensively that it wouldn't matter.

Zegras is basically PLD good offensively, minus the defensive upside.

MSL is only as good with players as their willingness to listen and apply his teachings.

His coach is quoted as praising him and his defensive efforts and his buy in.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Zegras
Caufield - Dach - Roy

could be a nice top 6 next season


PP 1

Slafkovsky
Caufield Suzuki
Matheson Zegras

 

[Deus ex machina]

Apparently we’re bad people, not to say bad Habs fans, for wanting skilled players.

Remember Jonathan Drouin?

Just sayin'...

 

[sampollock]

“I felt their support. We have just incredible fans. I know it's difficult sometimes, but we held on and showed their support. That’s why I love playing here so much. » -Josh Anderson

 

[salbutera]

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Zegras
Caufield - Dach - Roy

could be a nice top 6 next season


PP 1

Slafkovsky
Caufield Suzuki
Matheson Zegras

And what will you be giving up to acquire Zegras exactly?

 

[Runner77]

Apparently we’re bad people, not to say bad Habs fans, for wanting skilled players.

Not bad, but bipolar.