HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Not interested in Zegras. 5.75m for 1G on the year. We need goal scorers or a superstar. That's all we have in our system, borderline 2nd and 3rd liners. Time to shoot higher.

Could just be at the point he doesn't give a f*** like Duchene at times and PLD.

Get him and use him, or Newhook to upgrade on either of them.

Assuming they work out.

 

[Scriptor]

I wouldn't mind trading for Zegras, as long as people realize like Newhook he's a winger & not a center.

I wouldn't play him with Caufield though. Two poor defensive wingers together isn't a great idea.

Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Newhook-Dach-Zegras

....would be what we'd look like next year.

Caufield - Suzuki - Zegras would be defensive nightmare that Suzuki could not solve on his own.

I agree.I f ever Zegras materialized as a Hab, I wouldn't play him with his little buddy, Caufield, except, maybe, as a quartet of forwards with one D on the PP; Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Zegras, Guhle.

As for next year, maybe we have those lines you suggest, but,the following offseason, I sure hope Hughes adds another higher end winger (XXX) to give the following top-9:

Caufield - Suzuki - XXX
Slafkovsky - Dach - Zegras
Newhook - Beck - Roy

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Not interested in Zegras. 5.75m for 1G on the year. We need goal scorers or a superstar. That's all we have in our system, borderline 2nd and 3rd liners. Time to shoot higher.

He has only played 12 games and he wasn't playing with the only wing Anaheim has - Troy Terry. The only question is his attitude and I haven't seen any proof he has a bad attitude.

 

[Benstheman]

I would love to add Zegras talent up front but depends on the asking price in a trade and ultimately, i think we are soft on the top 6, except for Dach.

I would hope for a grittier player to play with Caufield/Suzuki duo.

 

[actuallynotPJStock]

I guess Levi going to be a star didn't hold up

Give him time. Clearly he wasn't ready for the show, but with proper seasoning in the AHL, I wouldn't doubt he lives up to the hype eventually.

 

[Draft]

Could just be at the point he doesn't give a f*** like Duchene at times and PLD.

Get him and use him, or Newhook to upgrade on either of them.

Assuming they work out.

No training camp (contract hold out), new coach, and new position (wing instead of centre) likely have more to do with it IMO.

 

[waitin425]

Caufield - Suzuki - Zegras would be defensive nightmare that Suzuki could not solve on his own.

I agree.I f ever Zegras materialized as a Hab, I wouldn't play him with his little buddy, Caufield, except, maybe, as a quartet of forwards with one D on the PP; Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Zegras, Guhle.

As for next year, maybe we have those lines you suggest, but,the following offseason, I sure hope Hughes adds another higher end winger (XXX) to give the following top-9:

Caufield - Suzuki - XXX
Slafkovsky - Dach - Zegras
Newhook - Beck - Roy

Demidov would suit that lineup nicely

 

[sampollock]

I know I need patience, but love for Kent to nail down a top six guy and get Dach back next year

 

[therocket9]

Ethan Gauthier would be a good fit long term and also Easton Cowan depending how desperate leafs are to get a center like Monahan.

 

[sampollock]

Two new teams are apparently seriously interested, according to the words of journalist Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun. He mentions that the Seattle Kraken and Buffalo Sabers have contacted Kent Hughes to discuss acquiring a goaltender from the team.

Regarding Buffalo, Garrioch brings up the name Jake Allen , given their lack of experience despite a wealth of young goalies. For Seattle, the situation seems complex with three goaltenders already under contract, including Chris Driedger who plays in the AHL, impacting the team's payroll by $2.35 million.

The Kraken could consider a proposal involving a draft pick and an attractive prospect to absorb Driedger's contract.

As for the Sabres, they appear to be a very likely option for an Allen trade. With the departure of Craig Anderson, the team has some young talent, but lacks a more experienced goaltender to mentor promising prospects such as Devon Levi and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen .

Because of the inconsistent performance of 28-year-old Eric Comrie , Buffalo has the salary space and a deep prospect pool, making them the team to watch closely for a trade involving Allen . He could be an ideal mentor to accompany a young cerberus like Levi.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Two new teams are apparently seriously interested, according to the words of journalist Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun. He mentions that the Seattle Kraken and Buffalo Sabers have contacted Kent Hughes to discuss acquiring a goaltender from the team.

Regarding Buffalo, Garrioch brings up the name Jake Allen , given their lack of experience despite a wealth of young goalies. For Seattle, the situation seems complex with three goaltenders already under contract, including Chris Driedger who plays in the AHL, impacting the team's payroll by $2.35 million.

The Kraken could consider a proposal involving a draft pick and an attractive prospect to absorb Driedger's contract.

As for the Sabres, they appear to be a very likely option for an Allen trade. With the departure of Craig Anderson, the team has some young talent, but lacks a more experienced goaltender to mentor promising prospects such as Devon Levi and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen .

Because of the inconsistent performance of 28-year-old Eric Comrie , Buffalo has the salary space and a deep prospect pool, making them the team to watch closely for a trade involving Allen . He could be an ideal mentor to accompany a young cerberus like Levi.

If we could tkae back Driedger and send him to the AHL, it'd solve a lot

 

[DiglettDangles]

The Kraken could consider a proposal involving a draft pick and an attractive prospect to absorb Driedger's contract.

Allen for Driedger and Firkus would be a major win, no need for a pick on top.

If Firkus is too much to ask, I remember having a positive opinion of Nyman/Rehkopf/OFM.

It just seems doubtful Allen would lift his NTC to go so far from Fredericton in his twilight years, but I guess there might be 7 teams that were worse for him (including BUF lol).

Can't help but feel bad for Driedger, how he was told Seattle had such big plans for him in the expansion draft, and basically not really being given those opportunities at all. He'd be more than fine for Laval.

 

[Draft]

Two new teams are apparently seriously interested, according to the words of journalist Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun. He mentions that the Seattle Kraken and Buffalo Sabers have contacted Kent Hughes to discuss acquiring a goaltender from the team.

Regarding Buffalo, Garrioch brings up the name Jake Allen , given their lack of experience despite a wealth of young goalies. For Seattle, the situation seems complex with three goaltenders already under contract, including Chris Driedger who plays in the AHL, impacting the team's payroll by $2.35 million.

The Kraken could consider a proposal involving a draft pick and an attractive prospect to absorb Driedger's contract.

As for the Sabres, they appear to be a very likely option for an Allen trade. With the departure of Craig Anderson, the team has some young talent, but lacks a more experienced goaltender to mentor promising prospects such as Devon Levi and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen .

Because of the inconsistent performance of 28-year-old Eric Comrie , Buffalo has the salary space and a deep prospect pool, making them the team to watch closely for a trade involving Allen . He could be an ideal mentor to accompany a young cerberus like Levi.

Taking back salary and getting a vet goalie for Laval with Driedger/Seattle seems like a no brainer to me.

I think it would be smart to target a young C. We've got essentially nothing outside of Beck up the middle and even he isn't having his best season.

I've really grown on Carson Rehkopf after catching some of his games keeping an eye on Lindstrom. He'd be a solid pick up as a potential middle-6 C. Otherwise, Fisker-Molgaard could end up a smart two-way player on a 3rd line, not sure if there's enough separating him and a guy like Kapanen though. I'm assuming Wright is out of our price range.

If we're not looking at centres, I'd stay away from another small, not-fast player in Firkus and aim for Nyman. It looks like his skating has gotten better as he's grown and he's got a huge frame with a fair amount of skill - exceptional D+1 in Liiga so far. He'll end up a shoot-first winger that can play a heavy game. If he can continue to work on his release and agility, I can definitely see him on a 2nd line.

 

[Kosseca]

If we could tkae back Driedger and send him to the AHL, it'd solve a lot

I was going to say the same thing. AHL need a G that can stop a puck at that level. Looked at the game last night and... ouf.

Taking back salary and getting a vet goalie for Laval with Driedger/Seattle seems like a no brainer to me.

I think it would be smart to target a young C. We've got essentially nothing outside of Beck up the middle and even he isn't having his best season.

I've really grown on Carson Rehkopf after catching some of his games keeping an eye on Lindstrom. He'd be a solid pick up as a potential middle-6 C. Otherwise, Fisker-Molgaard could end up a smart two-way player on a 3rd line, not sure if there's enough separating him and a guy like Kapanen though. I'm assuming Wright is out of our price range.

If we're not looking at centres, I'd stay away from another small, not-fast player in Firkus and aim for Nyman. It looks like his skating has gotten better as he's grown and he's got a huge frame with a fair amount of skill - exceptional D+1 in Liiga so far. He'll end up a shoot-first winger that can play a heavy game. If he can continue to work on his release and agility, I can definitely see him on a 2nd line.

The system need more C... Heck, this would be my only target in any discussions at this point

 

[Miller Time]

Taking back salary and getting a vet goalie for Laval with Driedger/Seattle seems like a no brainer to me.

I think it would be smart to target a young C. We've got essentially nothing outside of Beck up the middle and even he isn't having his best season.

I've really grown on Carson Rehkopf after catching some of his games keeping an eye on Lindstrom. He'd be a solid pick up as a potential middle-6 C. Otherwise, Fisker-Molgaard could end up a smart two-way player on a 3rd line, not sure if there's enough separating him and a guy like Kapanen though. I'm assuming Wright is out of our price range.

If we're not looking at centres, I'd stay away from another small, not-fast player in Firkus and aim for Nyman. It looks like his skating has gotten better as he's grown and he's got a huge frame with a fair amount of skill - exceptional D+1 in Liiga so far. He'll end up a shoot-first winger that can play a heavy game. If he can continue to work on his release and agility, I can definitely see him on a 2nd line.

if Hughes managed to get Nyman back from Seattle in a trade where all we gave up was Allen, that would be incredible! I'm not sure why they'd view Allen as that much of an upgrade over Daccord/Driedger, but if Francis values him that way, sign us up.

Sale would also be an interesting target... much like Mesar last year, he's not having the success in his D1 year that many expected. Adjusting to life in NA, smaller rink, and playing on a team with minimal offensive talent... looks to be lacking some intensity/engagement...

both would be welcome additions to our W prospect depth, both large-framed wingers with strong goal-scoring acumen and at least decent top 6 potential.

 

[The Great Weal]

You guys are grossly overrating Allens value in my opinion. Guy is a cap dump.

 

[Ezpz]

You guys are grossly overrating Allens value in my opinion. Guy is a cap dump.

Yup people are going to be surprised when he returns a Forward or RD cap dump. Something like jokiharju or olofsson from the sabres.

 

[Draft]

You guys are grossly overrating Allens value in my opinion. Guy is a cap dump.

More of a wish list than an expected return. Montreal taking back an equivalent cap dump in Driedger helps value but I do think it'll be less than a high-end prospect coming back.

I don't think Allen qualifies as a cap dump though. He's paid roughly what he's worth and teams love a known-quantity in net. Most contracts in a flat cap are difficult to move.

 

[sampollock]

I to don't think Allen would get back much. but one can dream

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'll take the 3rd or 4th round pick to send Allen to Buffalo, just give us back Comrie so we can waive him and put him in the AHL and let Dobes hone his craft in the ECHL for the remainder of this year.

Allen would then provide enough veteran and steady goaltending that Buffalo can get out from under us. f***ing shameless franchise.

 

[The Great Weal]

More of a wish list than an expected return. Montreal taking back an equivalent cap dump in Driedger helps value but I do think it'll be less than a high-end prospect coming back.

I don't think Allen qualifies as a cap dump though. He's paid roughly what he's worth and teams love a known-quantity in net. Most contracts in a flat cap are difficult to move.

He’s a mediocre backup getting paid high end backup money, to me that’s a cap dump

 

[Miller Time]

Yup people are going to be surprised when he returns a Forward or RD cap dump. Something like jokiharju or olofsson from the sabres.

You guys are grossly overrating Allens value in my opinion. Guy is a cap dump.

i don't think Allen at 3.85M is a cap dump right now, and next year with the cap rising even less so. There are ample teams around the league that would likely view him as an upgrade to their current goaltending situation imo

there's likely contract(s) coming back, or retention, if/when we do move him, but that's different than having to pay a premium to move him/dump his contract.

what the highest value Hughes will be offered, or what the bar he needs to get in order to move Allen, remains to be seen. My bet is that there have been offers thus far that many fans here would have said yes to without hesitation, but that Hughes has set a higher price because he values Allen current fit in our roster more than the average fan does.

will be interesting to see how this shakes out!

I'll take the 3rd or 4th round pick to send Allen to Buffalo, just give us back Comrie so we can waive him and put him in the AHL and let Dobes hone his craft in the ECHL for the remainder of this year.

Allen would then provide enough veteran and steady goaltending that Buffalo can get out from under us. f***ing shameless franchise.

3rd, Neuchev and Comrie for Allen, 5th, 7th

sign me up

 

[Draft]

He’s a mediocre backup getting paid high end backup money, to me that’s a cap dump

Have you checked out other backups across the league? For goalies with over 8gp, he's 31st with an 898 Sv%. All while playing behind MTL's defence. This would comfortably put him in weak starter/high-end backup territory. As he has been for most of his career.

Add on the Stanley Cup/playoff/international experience and well-recognized leadership abilities and you've got a guy worth his contract. There's a reason teams are interested in him.

 

[therocket9]

He’s a mediocre backup getting paid high end backup money, to me that’s a cap dump

Yes terrible contract extension by Hughes for no reason.

 

[Miller Time]

To Pitt
Monahan, Armia

To Mtl
2nd, Poulin, Eller
Carter (cap dump)

Pens upgrade their C lineup and fwd depth.

Habs get 2nd, and a struggling prospect with some untapped potential still there.
Eller coming home and frees up the possibility of trading Evans &/or Dvorak before next season...

not as much as i'd like to see us get for Monahan, but swapping Armia for Eller on next year's roster and the interesting potential Poulin still has make it worthwhile imo. If Pens don't right their ship, 2nd could end up pretty close to a later 1st.

Carter waives his NMC wtih assurances from Hughes that we'll try to move him for future considerations to a PO team with cap room right at the deadline