HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[rahad]

Wonder if we end up seeing Evans dealt at the deadline. His contract isn't very expensive and he can help a team with faceoffs and on the PK, he's also versatile and can play the wing. He's been bumped up in the lineup and playing more minutes which has resulted in him chipping in more offensively the last 3 games.

Owen Beck could be knocking on the door next year and someone like Mitchell Stephens can just fill in at C the rest of the year.

I highly doubt we trade Evans this year. With the possibility of Monahan gone at the TDL and Dvorak and Dach being injury prone. Having a NHL #4 center like Evans could be good for the Habs.

We also don't know if Owen is 100% ready for the NHL. He probably is going to play in the AHL next year.

 

[sampollock]

But less talented.

then let's stop trying to find a way to get him here. let's focus on scoring talent.. enough tinker toy projects. let's get some talent.

 

[calder candidate]

David Savard + Sean Farrell

For

Alexander Holtz and whatever cap dump needs to make it work.

Jake Allen

For

Detroit Redwings 2026 3rd rd pick

Sean Monahan + Jordan Harris

For

 Bourgault

Holtz as a some pretty good stat but I was never very high on him, Savard and Farrell are player I move to upgrad, I’m just not sure that is the most exciting deal we can get and at the same time NJ might not even consider moving him for that package.

Allen I think he got the stuff matchups facing mostly playoff teams he might still be the best goalie we have but he definitely isn’t the solution so move him ASAP just to clear the cap space…

Monanhan + Harris should definitely net us more than Bourgault… I rather not trade them than trade them for Bourgault

 

[Sterling Archer]

then let's stop trying to find a way to get him here. let's focus on scoring talent.. enough tinker toy projects. let's get some talent.

Preach. Much better targets but not many french ones which is what I assume is the fascination with Mantha. If he was from North Dakota, I doubt we'd ever hear his name on these boards.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Unless Mantha starts playing like the Mantha from 3-4 years ago, I would say playoff teams would be more interested in Pearson for a playoff run.

Pearson is a guy who could play in a contending teams bottom six and help on the PK and chip in some offense, while adding veteran leadership given he's won a cup.. teams know exactly what they'll get with him. Mantha is soft and adds nothing when he isn't scoring.

Mantha us soft, but can definitely step it up and be a physical force if he chooses to do so.

He's not great, they both have their pros and cons.

Caps just got dummied by the Coyotes, so they're probably looking for futures not lateral trades at this point.

 

[Miller Time]

Preach. Much better targets but not many french ones which is what I assume is the fascination with Mantha. If he was from North Dakota, I doubt we'd ever hear his name on these boards.

I don't think that's true at all...

Mantha is a perfect target for a team in our situation assuming the Caps decide they are willing to part with draft collateral to free up/reallocate his cap space to make room for a roster player they see helping them in PO push...

If anything, Backstrom's LTIR move dampened things by opening up alternative cap room. Had he not gone down again, there's a good chance we'd have already pulled that trigger.

There aren't many situations like this around the league (high cap hit UFA to-be on a cap stretched PO focused team that is no longer contributing value). His last name is irrelevant to that reality imo.

If we were to get him & a pick (say for Pearson, or to offload Armia), I'm sure flipping him again with heavy retention to get another draft asset would be in play, and I doubt any posters would complain about it (then again, some like to complain for anything, so perhaps I'm being too generous)

 

[Sterling Archer]

I don't think that's true at all...

Mantha is a perfect target for a team in our situation assuming the Caps decide they are willing to part with draft collateral to free up/reallocate his cap space to make room for a roster player they see helping them in PO push...

If anything, Backstrom's LTIR move dampened things by opening up alternative cap room. Had he not gone down again, there's a good chance we'd have already pulled that trigger.

There aren't many situations like this around the league (high cap hit UFA to-be on a cap stretched PO focused team that is no longer contributing value). His last name is irrelevant to that reality imo.

If we were to get him & a pick (say for Pearson, or to offload Armia), I'm sure flipping him again with heavy retention to get another draft asset would be in play, and I doubt any posters would complain about it (then again, some like to complain for anything, so perhaps I'm being too generous)

Cool. I guess years of reading countless posts on trying to acquire every and any French player in existence has jaded me. I’m sure this is completely different and people want him because he’s a 29 yo, oft injured, mercurial, diamond in the rough who still has tons of potential and has nothing at all to do because he’s French. My bad.

 

[sampollock]

Preach. Much better targets but not many french ones which is what I assume is the fascination with Mantha. If he was from North Dakota, I doubt we'd ever hear his name on these boards.

Yes I thought that too. but did not want to say it.. move on

picking 13th overall, as of right now. is to high.. we need bottom 5 again

Cool. I guess years of reading countless posts on trying to acquire every and any French player in existence has jaded me. I’m sure this is completely different and people want him because he’s a 29 yo diamond in the rough who still has tons of potential and has nothing at all to do because he’s French. My bad.

amen

 

[LaP]

Yes I thought that too. but did not want to say it.. move on

picking 13th overall, as of right now. is to high.. we need bottom 5 again

I'm not worrying personally. Our last 4 wins were against Seattle, Columbus, SJ and Anaheim and all four should finish below 20th. We lost the 4 games we had against potential top 20 teams in Boston. LA, Florida and Detroit (with Kane they should not finish below 20). The next month and a half will be much harder. To make the playoffs we should be in the playoffs now since we just finished the easier part of our schedule. We should be 4-5 positions lower at the end of January the opposite would surprised me. We also played lot of games Ottawa has 6 games i hands on us if they play for 500 in those 6 games they will be only 1 point behind with the tie break in their favor.

 

[calder candidate]

So which team should be in the running for Monahan and what the best available asset for each team?

 

[LaP]

So which team should be in the running for Monahan and what the best available asset for each team?

Avs for sure. They don't have much to offer outside of Calum Ritchie though. Boston (Lysell? don't know him much). Caps if they are still in the mix (doubtful). Edmonton if they claw back would make lot of sense for them specially if we are willing to accept a bad contract in the return. I'm not a big fan of Holloway and Bourgault though.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Avs for sure. They don't have much to offer outside of Calum Ritchie though. Boston (Lysell? don't know him much). Caps if they are still in the mix (doubtful).

Most likely will be picks rather than prospects.

 

[sampollock]

I'm not worrying personally. Our last 4 wins were against Seattle, Columbus, SJ and Anaheim and all four should finish below 20th. We lost the 4 games we had against potential top 20 teams in Boston. LA, Florida and Detroit (with Kane they should not finish below 20). The next month and a half will be much harder. To make the playoffs we should be in the playoffs now since we just finished the easier part of our schedule. We should be 4-5 positions lower at the end of January the opposite would surprised me. We also played lot of games Ottawa has 6 games i hands on us if they play for 500 in those 6 games they will be only 1 point behind with the tie break in their favor.

good read.. we need top 5

Most likely will be picks rather than prospects.

i think prospects is key here. picks they have lot's

 

[Deus ex machina]

I don't think that's true at all...

Mantha is a perfect target for a team in our situation assuming the Caps decide they are willing to part with draft collateral to free up/reallocate his cap space to make room for a roster player they see helping them in PO push...

If anything, Backstrom's LTIR move dampened things by opening up alternative cap room. Had he not gone down again, there's a good chance we'd have already pulled that trigger.

There aren't many situations like this around the league (high cap hit UFA to-be on a cap stretched PO focused team that is no longer contributing value). His last name is irrelevant to that reality imo.

If we were to get him & a pick (say for Pearson, or to offload Armia), I'm sure flipping him again with heavy retention to get another draft asset would be in play, and I doubt any posters would complain about it (then again, some like to complain for anything, so perhaps I'm being too generous)

With Backstrom now on LTIR for the remainder of the season, i don't think the Caps are that desperate to get rid of Mantha's contract.
They have over 7M of cap space, so that ship has sailed. No logic in bringing him to MTL anymore.

All the Habs' opportunities to use their cap space to get assets are pretty much gone now.
Ottawa was saved by the Pinto suspension.
Vancouver was saved, in a way, with the Perry thing and the Taylor Hall's injury.
Toronto will probably be allowed to ship Klingberg to Robidas Island.

What's left?

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[le_sean]

I would absolutely take a chance on Broberg. I’m surprised Edmonton would give up on a cheap young player so quickly.

 

[Sterling Archer]

MOAR D!!!

 

[Ezpz]

He's from the 2019 draft so you know Hughes is interested.

 

[LaP]

MOAR D!!!

To be fair not all our d will develop into top 4 and you can always trade one of them later. Broberg is a good prospect i would not be mad acquiring him. Dmen develop later often.

 

[Draft]

Ah yes, finally fill our desperate need for young, NHL-ready LD...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Broberg isn't a fit here.

 

[morhilane]

I would absolutely take a chance on Broberg. I’m surprised Edmonton would give up on a cheap young player so quickly.

They traded Jeff Petry for a bag of pucks to the Habs, so I'm not surprised...

But Broberg is a LD and the Habs have too many NHL ready ones already on that side.

 

[Mrb1p]

Avs for sure. They don't have much to offer outside of Calum Ritchie though. Boston (Lysell? don't know him much). Caps if they are still in the mix (doubtful). Edmonton if they claw back would make lot of sense for them specially if we are willing to accept a bad contract in the return. I'm not a big fan of Holloway and Bourgault though.

The play was Byram but with Girards struggles and Toews too it's now unlikely. Sigh.

 

[LaP]

The play was Byram but with Girards struggles and Toews too it's now unlikely. Sigh.

If they trade Byram they will aim for someone signed or RFA i think. There's a couple of question marks over Byram's head now though. He's often injured and defensively he has not looked good this year (in the games i watched anyway). I still like his potential a lot but i feel like Sakic might have missed a boat here if Landeskog doesn't come back their play to replace him was Byram.

 

[Mrb1p]

If they trade Byram they will aim for someone signed or RFA i think. There's a couple of question marks over Byram's head now though. He's often injured and defensively he has not looked good this year (in the games i watched anyway). I still like his potential a lot but i feel like Sakic might have missed a boat here if Landeskog doesn't come back their play to replace him was Byram.

Byram makes a few headcases plays here and there but he's generally their second best D, especially offensively. Not sure Id say there's any questions left, he's great and would immediately be our second best D.