HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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Ezpz

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Tyson Barrie is available, effectively for free. UFA this coming summer. Would anyone take a flyer? May help the PP.
No. Why would we be pushing for 10th place? This roster is not a playoff team. We need elite talent if we're ever going to get there. Reinbacher and Slaf aren't cornerstone pieces, they're the guys that insulate and aren't available via trade. We still need that Celebrini talent.
 

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3 pts away from last wc spot, 1 game in hand.
Little early to throw the towel.
 

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That newhook injury seals the deal. Monahan should be auctioned in the coming weeks and Matheson too.

Pearson at the deadline, Anderson is impossible.
I'm not sure Pearson gets anything, but Monahan needs to be dealt asap. He's looking slow, like his body can't handle a full season.


Hell, can't handle half a season
 

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I'm not sure Pearson gets anything, but Monahan needs to be dealt asap. He's looking slow, like his body can't handle a full season.


Hell, can't handle half a season
Pearson will get a late pick at the deadline for.sure. A team looking for a regular fourth line vet will want him. Nothing more than a 3rd though.

Agreed on Monahan. Id do Matheson too before it turns into another Anderson fiasco.
 

Ezpz

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3 pts away from last wc spot, 1 game in hand.
Little early to throw the towel.
There are five other teams in the exact same position that have much better rosters and commitment to buying at the deadline. You could also say we're 2 points from second last in the east and we only have four regulation wins all season so we would never win any tiebreaker.

edit: and we also have the worst goal differential in the conference
 

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Spend what we get for Monahan offloading cap dumps, and Monahan has been bad for 10 games
Not dumping no cap dumps. Monahan is 50 points, big center good on faceoffs. With cheap contract. He is what teams close to a cup will want at deadline. An easy first.

We got a 2nd and 7th for Kulak. Kovacevic will return as much or more

We got a first and 4th for Chiarot. Savard will return similar.

Allen good for a mid round pick, Pearson also if we retain.
 

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Pearson will get a late pick at the deadline for.sure. A team looking for a regular fourth line vet will want him. Nothing more than a 3rd though.

Agreed on Monahan. Id do Matheson too before it turns into another Anderson fiasco.

I don't know if Hughes will have the courage to sell on Matheson.

That's selling high on a hometown player who is a former client.
 
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I don't know if Hughes will have the courage to sell on Matheson.

That's selling high on a hometown player who is a former client.
Then he is a bad GM. He didn't have the courage of selling high on Anderson either, and now look at us. Bergevin did the same thing with Petry and Gallagher.

We gotta stop falling in love with mediocre players, especially ones with suspect longevity.
 

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Pearson will get a late pick at the deadline for.sure. A team looking for a regular fourth line vet will want him. Nothing more than a 3rd though.

Agreed on Monahan. Id do Matheson too before it turns into another Anderson fiasco.
I keep Matheson for now, I don’t think it shows a lack of courage to keep a solid puck moving dman. The team should be rdy to add assets as early as next offseason. Tanking forever isn’t in the cards, nor should it be.

We will get another solid pick this year regardless of Matheson.
 

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Then he is a bad GM. He didn't have the courage of selling high on Anderson either, and now look at us. Bergevin did the same thing with Petry and Gallagher.

We gotta stop falling in love with mediocre players, especially ones with suspect longevity.
We don't know what he might have been offered for Anderson if anything. Since when do the media ever know what he is doing?
 

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I keep Matheson for now, I don’t think it shows a lack of courage to keep a solid puck moving dman. The team should be rdy to add assets as early as next offseason. Tanking forever isn’t in the cards, nor should it be.

We will get another solid pick this year regardless of Matheson.

We said the same thing last year about Anderson and now look at us. I'd trade for prospects like Newhook, Dach and Heineman instead of picks, but moving these guys when their value is high is savvy vs emotional.

We don't know what he might have been offered for Anderson if anything. Since when do the media ever know what he is doing?
Multiple sources reporting a 1st means a first was probably on the table, let alone a 2nd, which would still be much higher than his actual value.
 
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We said the same thing last year about Anderson and now look at us. I'd trade for prospects like Newhook, Dach and Heineman instead of picks, but moving these guys when their value is high is savvy vs emotional.


Multiple sources reporting a 1st means a first was probably on the table, let alone a 2nd, which would still be much higher than his actual value.

I'd expect Matheson to age better than Anderson.

He's cheaper, and relatively more reliant on IQ than on physique/speed.
 

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We said the same thing last year about Anderson and now look at us. I'd trade for prospects like Newhook, Dach and Heineman instead of picks, but moving these guys when their value is high is savvy vs emotional.


Multiple sources reporting a 1st means a first was probably on the table, let alone a 2nd, which would still be much higher than his actual value.
What if it was a late 1st for a 2nd and Anderson with retention. Then it's a no go. Or a bigger deal that was no good. No way to know.
 

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I'd expect Matheson to age better than Anderson.

He's cheaper, and relatively more reliant on IQ than on physique/speed.
Matheson has some of the poorest IQ on the team, which is why he is so god-damned terrible with his decision making. Not sure you're right on that one, he's a very physically-gifted athlete that relies on his explosiveness and skating speed to be good.

He is cheaper for a shorter time, thats true, which should just make his value better in a trade.
What if it was a late 1st for a 2nd and Anderson with retention. Then it's a no go. Or a bigger deal that was no good. No way to know.
Id assume it was a much more traditional move than that.

 

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Matheson has some of the poorest IQ on the team, which is why he is so god-damned terrible with his decision making. Not sure you're right on that one, he's a very physically-gifted athlete that relies on his explosiveness and skating speed to be good.

He is cheaper for a shorter time, thats true, which should just make his value better in a trade.

Id assume it was a much more traditional move than that.


It was major mistake hanging onto Anderson too long. On both ends. We have to carry his caphit next three years plus also losing out on first round pick.
 

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It was major mistake hanging onto Anderson too long. On both ends. We have to carry his caphit next three years plus also losing out on first round pick.
These post are ridiculous. LeBrun said they turned down big offers. Who knows what he thinks a big offer is. Anderson was playing reasonably well at that point so retaining for 4 years would have required something equal to TWO firsts+. especially since they had Weber, Price, and Gallagher's anchors on the books then.
 

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It was major mistake hanging onto Anderson too long. On both ends. We have to carry his caphit next three years plus also losing out on first round pick.
I'm not sure 1sts were available.

I was a big Anderson hatter up until last year when he played well with RHP when RHP was called up. Was it lightning in a bottle for both? I don't know. But I am mad at MSL for not playing them together this year. Like WTF was he thinking???

At any rate, I still really think Hughes wanted to move Anderson. I'm not convinced there were good offers on the table without retention. Having said that, at this point I would have taken the offers with retention. But hindsight is 20/20. Now I just hope MSL reunites Anderson and RHP and then we see how they do and go from there...
 

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Not dumping no cap dumps. Monahan is 50 points, big center good on faceoffs. With cheap contract. He is what teams close to a cup will want at deadline. An easy first.

We got a 2nd and 7th for Kulak. Kovacevic will return as much or more

We got a first and 4th for Chiarot. Savard will return similar.

Allen good for a mid round pick, Pearson also if we retain.
Can't agree about Savard.
 
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These post are ridiculous. LeBrun said they turned down big offers. Who knows what he thinks a big offer is. Anderson was playing reasonably well at that point so retaining for 4 years would have required something equal to TWO firsts+. especially since they had Weber, Price, and Gallagher's anchors on the books then.
Pretty sure he said they only turned down a 1st.

A big offer would be like a 1st, a decent roster player and a pretty good prospect
 
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I'm not sure 1sts were available.

I was a big Anderson hatter up until last year when he played well with RHP when RHP was called up. Was it lightning in a bottle for both? I don't know. But I am mad at MSL for not playing them together this year. Like WTF was he thinking???

At any rate, I still really think Hughes wanted to move Anderson. I'm not convinced there were good offers on the table without retention. Having said that, at this point I would have taken the offers with retention. But hindsight is 20/20. Now I just hope MSL reunites Anderson and RHP and then we see how they do and go from there...
Never been a huge fan. I don’t think he’s regressed. Hes been snake bitten and had some awful luck so far. I don’t think it’s necessarily the end for Josh Anderson.
 

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These post are ridiculous. LeBrun said they turned down big offers. Who knows what he thinks a big offer is. Anderson was playing reasonably well at that point so retaining for 4 years would have required something equal to TWO firsts+. especially since they had Weber, Price, and Gallagher's anchors on the books then.
Lebrun respected journalist imagine he knows what he talking about.
 
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