HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[morhilane]

I'm 40. It's hard for me to imagine that 20 year old super jocks are more interested in video games than in going out drinking.

They might be drinking while playing video games. That's what me and my friend did back in University ~20 years ago.

 

[domiwroze]

I'm 40. It's hard for me to imagine that 20 year old super jocks are more interested in video games than in going out drinking.

Me as a 20 yo :

 

[bcv]

I'm 40. It's hard for me to imagine that 20 year old super jocks are more interested in video games than in going out drinking.

COVID changed the game

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Should have made the deal after the 2nd period, before the team fell apart in the 3rd.....
All of our goalies have struggled.........the only one I want gone is Allen, but no one could be that stupid, unless Bergevin gets a GM job again soon.

Allen would be useful as a backup but no contender is going to have cap room for him without retention. I suppose HuGo could take back an expiring contract to move him.

 

[Tuggy]

Monty extended.

Time to move Allen.

Doubt he has much value, but he's gotta go.

 

[LaP]

I'm not sure being more interested in drinking than video games is a good thing. The whole concept of the alpha male of the 60ies-80ies is stupid and mostly perpetuated by kids who were not alive back in the days. I grew up in the 70ies and 80ies and back then the only thing men did was sit in front of a TV watching sports while drinking beers after working (being exploited) for 8 hours. Homer is a very good and totally accurate parody of what a man was in the 70ies and 80ies. Men used to drink and drive all the time they were even proud of it. They used to smoke like a power plant. They did not bother taking care of the kids. They expected their wife to stay at home doing the laundry and cook. The men of the past are glorified to a stupid extend. Loved my dad but he was a flawed old school man. He changed a lot over the years thought and was more modern toward the end.

 

[26Mats]

Monty extended.

Time to move Allen.

Doubt he has much value, but he's gotta go.

What if we have to use our last retention spot this year and one of our two remaining for next year just to get a 5th rounder for Allen.

If we really want to give the backup role to Allen, may be better just to waive him. Either he's claimed and we're out of the contract, or he plays in Laval in case there's an injury to Montembault or Primeau.

 

[sampollock]

What if we have to use our last retention spot this year and one of our two remaining for next year just to get a 5th rounder for Allen.

If we really want to give the backup role to Allen, may be better just to waive him. Either he's claimed and we're out of the contract, or he plays in Laval in case there's an injury to Montembault or Primeau.

allen wont bring much back, I don't think. I could be wrong. but his contract hurts

 

[26Mats]

allen wont bring much back, I don't think. I could be wrong. but his contract hurts

I'm now firmly on the waive Allen bandwagon.

I don't think he'll get claimed. But the cap space for next season would be nice if he did. If he doesn't, we finally get to see Montembault as the #1 and Primeau as the #2. If neither can hack it, we can call Allen back up.

Waiving Allen is win-win.

 

[Kosseca]

I'm now firmly on the waive Allen bandwagon.

I don't think he'll get claimed. But the cap space for next season would be nice if he did. If he doesn't, we finally get to see Montembault as the #1 and Primeau as the #2. If neither can hack it, we can call Allen back up.

Waiving Allen is win-win.

I'm not sure that this would be a good locker room move.... and it does not seems needed. People are getting impatient with the 3 G system, but in the end, it has no impact on the team's change to make the playoff... they just wont. So keep the peace in the locker room, dont devaluate an asset, and see what the rest of the season bring. Now that Monty is signed, I fully expect him to be injured by the end of next week anyway.

 

[26Mats]

I'm not sure that this would be a good locker room move.... and it does not seems needed. People are getting impatient with the 3 G system, but in the end, it has no impact on the team's change to make the playoff... they just wont. So keep the peace in the locker room, dont devaluate an asset, and see what the rest of the season bring. Now that Monty is signed, I fully expect him to be injured by the end of next week anyway.

No one likes the 3G system.

I don't think it would be bad for the lockerroom, just like waiving Armia and sending him to Laval, then claling him back up, then sending him down, wasn't bad for the lockerroom.

 

[digmor crusher]

I'm not sure being more interested in drinking than video games is a good thing. The whole concept of the alpha male of the 60ies-80ies is stupid and mostly perpetuated by kids who were not alive back in the days. I grew up in the 70ies and 80ies and back then the only thing men did was sit in front of a TV watching sports while drinking beers after working (being exploited) for 8 hours. Homer is a very good and totally accurate parody of what a man was in the 70ies and 80ies. Men used to drink and drive all the time they were even proud of it. They used to smoke like a power plant. They did not bother taking care of the kids. They expected their wife to stay at home doing the laundry and cook. The men of the past are glorified to a stupid extend. Loved my dad but he was a flawed old school man. He changed a lot over the years thought and was more modern toward the end.

Thats me, except for the not looking after kids part.
I worked for 40 years and nope, I wasn't exploited. Problem is that young people now want to work 4 hours a day from home and then complain that they can't afford a house.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'm not sure being more interested in drinking than video games is a good thing. The whole concept of the alpha male of the 60ies-80ies is stupid and mostly perpetuated by kids who were not alive back in the days. I grew up in the 70ies and 80ies and back then the only thing men did was sit in front of a TV watching sports while drinking beers after working (being exploited) for 8 hours. Homer is a very good and totally accurate parody of what a man was in the 70ies and 80ies. Men used to drink and drive all the time they were even proud of it. They used to smoke like a power plant. They did not bother taking care of the kids. They expected their wife to stay at home doing the laundry and cook. The men of the past are glorified to a stupid extend. Loved my dad but he was a flawed old school man. He changed a lot over the years thought and was more modern toward the end.

Road beers.

Thats me, except for the not looking after kids part.
I worked for 40 years and nope, I wasn't exploited. Problem is that young people now want to work 4 hours a day from home and then complain that they can't afford a house.

I mean some are, but this is the typical view point of someone older who doesn't have to deal with the current landscape of work and buying a house.

I'm old enough that I've worked in factories when they were still good, but now see them and other jobs as they are. Cutting everything to make more money. Why ? Because a good worker means f*** all at this point.

Companies will ask the good worker to do more rather than ask the shit employee to step up.

I have a house thankfully because my parents both passed away, got their house, sold it and was able to use some of the money I got as a down-payment. Got my house for around 250,000 I'm 2018. Similar houses in my area, a little bit more updated were selling for around 375,000. In 4 years my house has gone up 100k in value. Did wages match that ? Nope.

Worked jobs were it goes far beyond 40 hours a week. Not a flex, but that's what the job required. I left that area to take a pay cut to have better hours to spend time with my family instead of working my life away to afford the same type of life you likely enjoyed decades ago and not having to work 1.5 - 2 times the hourly rate.

I've seen factories have big Christmas parties where the company brought in big screen tvs, kayaks, other household appliances and extra paid time off thar could be won. Now you get a pizza party if you're lucky.

Today's work environment f***ing sucks and its only getting worse.

 

[McGees]

Thats me, except for the not looking after kids part.
I worked for 40 years and nope, I wasn't exploited. Problem is that young people now want to work 4 hours a day from home and then complain that they can't afford a house.

No this isn't just a 'lazy kids' problem, - unless you have your family give you a down payment, it is next to impossible to buy a house (hell, a 1 bedroom 600sq. ft. condo) in a major city, even if you make over 100k / year right now.

 

[Kimota]

I'm 40. It's hard for me to imagine that 20 year old super jocks are more interested in video games than in going out drinking.

That's a good point. My nephew is 19 and plays in junior hockey and they spend some of their time basically drinking in bars between school and work and they are not that much into videogames. And mu nephew is not even some super-jock, he is pretty mellow.

 

[HuGort]

Allen would be useful as a backup but no contender is going to have cap room for him without retention. I suppose HuGo could take back an expiring contract to move him.

I think they will waive Primeau. Could be a good pick up if a team has a couple of years to develop him. Another Lindgren or Montembeault possibly

 

[sampollock]

I wonder what newhook will come to be.
2 draft picks for him. What you all think?

 

[McGees]

I wonder what newhook will come to be.
2 draft picks for him. What you all think?

elite 3rd liner.

 

[JRichard]

I wonder what newhook will come to be.
2 draft picks for him. What you all think?

I expect a whole lot of pace calculations that should calm most.

 

[sampollock]

I expect a whole lot of pace calculations that should calm most.

Sorry? Pace

 

[JRichard]

Sorry? Pace

Now injured, Newhook is a 23 goal scorer using pace calculations.
Or is he a 7 goal scorer? Makes the deal look bad.
Pace vs availability. Interesting debate.

Way too early to call the trade winner until the 31st and 37th bust or become stars.

 

[Lockin17]

CGY : Dustin Wolf
for
MTL : CGY first pick

 

[JRichard]

CGY : Dustin Wolf
for
MTL : CGY first pick

Exactly the type of deal you go after. You even add to that late pick with a nice prospect.

going after a young goalie who showed well at the ahl level in his 3rd season.

There are other names too.

Must be a first but i agree with you.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

CGY : Dustin Wolf
for
MTL : CGY first pick

Easy pass.


A thing the Habs have to consider is if Xhekaj has bad luck, or his a big boy with a weak body.

Second injury to his shoulders.

 

[Pat Riot]

Exactly the type of deal you go after. You even add to that late pick with a nice prospect.

going after a young goalie who showed well at the ahl level in his 3rd season.

There are other names too.

Must be a first but i agree with you.

I wouldnt trade a first for a goalie. Especially not for a small one.