HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Fleury not be traded.

 

[sampollock]

Source? Seems like a weird thing to say.

maybe true but...

ok
Allen was good in STL, is this team that bad where is stinks or is he done as a goalie??

 

[Le Barron de HF]

maybe true but...

ok
Allen was good in STL, is this team that bad where is stinks or is he done as a goalie??

He was fine in his first season here

 

[CaptainKirk]

At 31, he could set an unenviable record by posting the worst differential in Canadian history over a season. His current -24 is alarming, and at this rate he could end the season at -35, a chilling result.

So he'd end up making $228,571 per minus. Great.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Leafs are likely out first round, so at least pick #24. That's a fair return for Savard. Tanev has kinda messed up the market.

Tanev trade does no affect the market other than to raise value due to scarcity.

 

[Kwikwi]

Savard value is bigger for us than any other team for is role but... if we are to trade him
id rather get an already drafted player instead of a pick for Savard
like TOR Easten Cowen for Savard 50%

 

[SwiftyHab]

Forget Savard. Doubt he's traded.
Realistically Armia, Kovacevic, Allen, even Evans have a much better chance of going.

Also, im in a boring compuslary training session and bored as sh!t. Anyone want to propose a viable 6-team trade to keep me entertained?

 

[sheed36]

Source? Seems like a weird thing to say.

Not sure where KH originally said or when he said it but they did play the clip on 690 not long ago of him being asked which team he wouldn't make a trade with and he did say the Leafs.

I doubt though if he was actually being serious and was likely just joking around playing up to what was most likely a Habs audience but I heard the clip and he did say it.

 

[Canadiens98]

Let me preface by saying this isn't a "sexy" trade idea but ...

I wonder if we could get Mittlestadt at the TDL or in the summer. I know we'll likely be sellers (@ the TDL) but I don't think Buffalo can afford to keep him and maybe he'll be made available?

He would allow us to move Newhook back to the wing if we brought him in by the TDL

 

[Adam Michaels]

Let me preface by saying this isn't a "sexy" trade idea but ...

I wonder if we could get Mittlestadt at the TDL or in the summer. I know we'll likely be sellers (@ the TDL) but I don't think Buffalo can afford to keep him and maybe he'll be made available?

He would allow us to move Newhook back to the wing if we brought him in by the TDL

It's possible Sabres trade him this TDL, but to a team making a push for the playoffs.

However, in the off-season, I'm willing to trade for him. He would fall into the category of the Dach and Newhook trades, who were also acquired when they were RFA's and Habs were able to negotiate a deal with them. The difference is that both Dach and Newhook were coming out of their ELCs, whereas Mittlestadt isn't.

 

[Guy Larose]

Source? Seems like a weird thing to say.

Already gave you the source, himself. It was an interview a couple of months ago (with JiC I think). He was asked if there were teams he'd never trade with.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Let me preface by saying this isn't a "sexy" trade idea but ...

I wonder if we could get Mittlestadt at the TDL or in the summer. I know we'll likely be sellers (@ the TDL) but I don't think Buffalo can afford to keep him and maybe he'll be made available?

He would allow us to move Newhook back to the wing if we brought him in by the TDL

The Sabres were just rated as having the best prospect pool in the league (Scott Wheeler from the Athletic). They can afford to give up a prospect or two to make the team better. I think a player like Savard for that young group of D would be something they would want. Obviously wed have to add to that but could be a play

 

[JoelWarlord]

I have no idea why people think Hughes is interested in trading Savard. He's the only RHD who can eat big minutes in the NHL in the Habs organization. The org is already wasting Guhle as a shutdown RD because of how shit the depth is at RHD. If Savard is traded and it's Harris or Struble who will be put on the right side. That's not what development is about, that's using scotch-tape to ice a line-up.

I think it made more sense when we kinda all figured that Tanev would go for a 1st+ and set the market so there was a somewhat plausible chance of Savard returning a 1st given he's signed another year and wouldn't be a rental. Now that Tanev went for a 2nd + a conditional 3rd (condition is making the cup final) it's less straightforward.

I just kinda shrug my shoulders on it. If we get offered a 2nd for him I don't really care if we accept it or not. A 2nd is fine for 1.3 seasons of Savard who's a 5-6 on a contender, but if they decide to pass on it to keep him around until next deadline as a mentor and to insulate the younger players that's fine by me too.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Harris can't eat Savard's minutes on his left side, he's not going to do it on his weak side.

Harris doesn't need to take all of Savard's ice time. Some of the ice time can be distributed to the other defensemen.

If you have too many LDs, trade the overflow, don't trade your only capable RHD to fill the spot with a lesser LD.

Yea no... They will need to trade some young defenseman because we have too many, but the reason to do it should definitely not be to keep Savard. It makes no sense to trade a young dman to keep a 33-year-old dman, who even if not traded, won't be here after next season.

Play time in the NHL shouldn't be given, it should be earn. In the last two season MTL was short on warm bodies to play at the NHL level and had to promote lots of kids and turn this team into a development one and not a competitive one. As time past, this conundrum is not longer there and young player need to go back to earning their spot.

Having Savard in the lineup instead of one of the kids isn't going to make a difference in terms of the team being competitive. Savard is a 4-5D, he's not a difference-maker. The kids also have a higher potential and talent, and could easily become a much better defenseman than Savard soon.

You're also assuming that Savard is still going to be a decent defenseman next season, which is far from guaranteed. He will be 34 years and he is at the age where his play could completely fall off a cliff. So not trading him now when he's playing decent could backfire big time.

Beyond that, Matheson, Savard, Guhle are the only 3 D that have secured their place. Struble and Xhekaj are very close, but I would say that should they no maintain their rhythm, they could be left out of the line up. Kovasevich, Harris and Barron are bubble D right now and the odd of seeing them being traded are pretty good. So, there is space in the line up for D that can play NHL level hockey

Those players have all made the team and will all require waivers next season.

The habs will be much better moving forward playing one of the kids than by playing a declining 34 year old dman.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I'll die on this hill and fight anyone : We should keep Savard and cash in on Matheson instead.

fight me.
Savard is great for the kids, Matheson isn't bad per say, but he isn't the big responsible brother on the ice that sacrifice himself for the cause. You need that.

Trading Savard for a 2nd + B prospect isn't worth it at all, specially when we could just get that same value next year out of him if needed.

I'm not opposed to trading a 60 point defenceman who is average defensively for an 80 point forward who is also average defensively.

Have anyone in mind?

 

[DiglettDangles]

Also, im in a boring compuslary training session and bored as sh!t. Anyone want to propose a viable 6-team trade to keep me entertained?

MTL: Future considerations
EDM: 7th round pick
OTT: Bettman cancels their next 1st round pick, Smilanic's rights
COL: 7th round pick
ANA: 7th round pick
ARI: Gallagher @100%, Chychrun because once again F*** Ottawa

You're welcome

 

[SwiftyHab]

MTL: Future considerations
EDM: 7th round pick
OTT: Bettman cancels their next 1st round pick, Smilanic's rights
COL: 7th round pick
ANA: 7th round pick
ARI: Gallagher @100%, Chychrun because once again F*** Ottawa

You're welcome

Love how 3 teams just swap 7th round picks to complicate this trade.

I’m in for this deal. Will even give Arizona our next 50 7th round picks

 

[morhilane]

maybe true but...

ok
Allen was good in STL, is this team that bad where is stinks or is he done as a goalie??

Last year, him and his wife got their 3rd kid early into the season and he was clearly lacking sleep when the team played at home since he was usually fine in away games.

This year, he plays like shit every time the media talk trades with him which they do a lot when he's made available to them. He was actually good in October, it's by November, when all the trades talk started that his play took a dive.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Is Montebault tradable without a revolt? He's near peak value now too isnt he?

 

[habsfan891]

I'll probably regret it but I took a vacation day for the deadline

 

[Colezuki]

Is Montebault tradable without a revolt? He's near peak value now too isnt he?

I swear some of you would trade the seats if they weren't nailed down,

Feels a bit like the french revolution in here sometimes

I'll probably regret it but I took a vacation day for the deadline

on a flight to cabo that takes off at 9am and lands at 3pm lol

 

[Sorinth]

I'm starting to start to lean towards keeping Savard. Looking at Tanev's return and some of the comments from teams it's starting to sound like the value won't really be there and with the young D taking only modest steps forward this year and the talk about players/management getting a bit frustrated with the losing it starting to make sense to keep him and instead try to deal one of the younger guys instead.

I can see the appeal in waiting, seeing Guhle play the remainder of the season at RD to see if that becomes a short term option, seeing if Reinbacher can come over and play a few games to get a sense of whether he'll need a lot of AHL time or not. And I doubt Savard's trade value will change much between now and next year so we aren't really under the gun to get whatever we can get right now.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I swear some of you would trade the seats if they weren't nailed down,

Feels a bit like the french revolution in here sometimes


on a flight to cabo that takes off at 9am and lands at 3pm lol

I'd trade the seats and the hot dogs for a 2nd.

 

[eklund the clown]

Already gave you the source, himself. It was an interview a couple of months ago (with JiC I think). He was asked if there were teams he'd never trade with.

He would never say this unless joking .

 

[sampollock]

Forget Savard. Doubt he's traded.
Realistically Armia, Kovacevic, Allen, even Evans have a much better chance of going.

Also, im in a boring compuslary training session and bored as sh!t. Anyone want to propose a viable 6-team trade to keep me entertained?

we need a real trade to go through today, to make your phone buzz lots