HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[BLONG7]

HuGo have all the leverage when it comes to Savard now, Tanev was the closest comparable to him and Walker will likely stay in Philly since they are in a playoff spot.

They will gladly keep Savard since he plays big minutes and is great with the young guys, while setting a very high asking price in case there is a desperate team at the deadline.

To help boost his value even more, they should get the media team to put together a compilation video of Savard doing that same deke that somehow works 99% of the time so they can also showcase his skillz.

Leverage should be Hughes middle name...................he knows when he has it.
Savard will only be dealt if there is a deal that knocks the socks off the organization.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

HuGo have all the leverage when it comes to Savard now, Tanev was the closest comparable to him and Walker will likely stay in Philly since they are in a playoff spot.

They will gladly keep Savard since he plays big minutes and is great with the young guys, while setting a very high asking price in case there is a desperate team at the deadline.

To help boost his value even more, they should get the media team to put together a compilation video of Savard doing that same deke that somehow works 99% of the time so they can also showcase his skillz.

Love when Savard becomes prime Erik Karlson for 6 seconds and dangles somebody right out of his Jockstrap once every 27 games

 

[Milhouse40]

What? This summer? 15 million cap space?

Yep, this summer

 

[ML16]

I'll die on this hill and fight anyone : We should keep Savard and cash in on Matheson instead.

fight me.
Savard is great for the kids, Matheson isn't bad per say, but he isn't the big responsible brother on the ice that sacrifice himself for the cause. You need that.

Trading Savard for a 2nd + B prospect isn't worth it at all, specially when we could just get that same value next year out of him if needed.

Interesting take. I could see Matheson being move at the draft IF :

Hutson and Reinbacher have a dazzling NHL debut towards the end of the season and demonstrate they can integrate the roster full time next year. (Why both? Because Guhle would have to go back on LHD)

Matheson can fetch a haul; 1st + A prospect.

Guhle - Reinbacher
Hutson - Savard*
Struble - Xhekaj
Harris - Kovacevic**/Barron

* TDL 2025 asset
** TDL 2024 asset

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I have no idea why people think Hughes is interested in trading Savard. He's the only RHD who can eat big minutes in the NHL in the Habs organization. The org is already wasting Guhle as a shutdown RD because of how shit the depth is at RHD. If Savard is traded and it's Harris or Struble who will be put on the right side. That's not what development is about, that's using scotch-tape to ice a line-up.

It's not that we want to get rid of Savard, its that we want to give playing time to the kids.

Matheson, Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Struble, Barron, and Kovacevic are 7 D that will be in the nhl next season. If we have Savard, then two of these players will be scratched each game.

It's much better development for Harris to be playing the right side than to be scratched.

We also have Trudeau, Mailloux, Reinbacher, and Engstrom who will be ready for nhl games next season.

 

[salbutera]

Jake Allen has no value. He's a giveaway at this point.

Why would anyone have confidence to make their playoff push for a guy who is playing like a #3 in a 3 goalie carousel.

I don’t agree at all. The Habs G stats are negatively influenced by the number of odd man rushes impacting their D zone entries - Habs are 2nd worst presently in the league.

G never net a significant return to begin with, but I wouldn’t classify as a giveaway

 

[Egresch]

What do the panthers need? I would love to get Lundell from them

A center too talented to be on the third line but that’s because Barkov and Bennett are ahead of him.

They will not trade him now as they are ready to contend. But I fully agree he should be our main target in offseason. We need left handed center. He is strong defensively, top 6 offensive potential, can play LW.
Price will be high as it is within division.

 

[Playmaker09]

I'll die on this hill and fight anyone : We should keep Savard and cash in on Matheson instead.

fight me.
Savard is great for the kids, Matheson isn't bad per say, but he isn't the big responsible brother on the ice that sacrifice himself for the cause. You need that.

Trading Savard for a 2nd + B prospect isn't worth it at all, specially when we could just get that same value next year out of him if needed.

Matheson is just the next Yandle/Barrie/Gardiner.

You either trade him while his value is at it's peak, or wait until the stink of his defensive game becomes a talking point and he loses most of his value. Right now people still see a breakout player on an upward trajectory.

 

[McGees]

Matheson is just the next Yandle/Barrie/Gardiner.

You either trade him while his value is at it's peak, or wait until the stink of his defensive game becomes a talking point and he loses most of his value. Right now people still see a breakout player on an upward trajectory.

Gardiner.
Yes!
Good comparable.

 

[morhilane]

It's not that we want to get rid of Savard, its that we want to give playing time to the kids.

Matheson, Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Struble, Barron, and Kovacevic are 7 D that will be in the nhl next season. If we have Savard, then two of these players will be scratched each game.

It's much better development for Harris to be playing the right side than to be scratched.

Harris can't eat Savard's minutes on his left side, he's not going to do it on his weak side. If you have too many LDs, trade the overflow, don't trade your only capable RHD to fill the spot with a lesser LD.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Why are so many people opposed to trading Matheson? He is completely irrelevant to the future of the team

Matheson is just the next Yandle/Barrie/Gardiner.

You either trade him while his value is at it's peak, or wait until the stink of his defensive game becomes a talking point and he loses most of his value. Right now people still see a breakout player on an upward trajectory.

That's what I'm saying

 

[Adam Michaels]

True. guess I expected Johnston to be there but he has already made the show.

Exactly why I didn't name Johnston. He's part of the team now and Dallas wouldn't be trading a roster player.

 

[Goalfield13]

Justin Holl is available from Detroit. Looks like they want to dump him for cap purposes. He has 2 years left after this one at $3.4 mil. He's pretty much a bottom pair RD plug. I would take him if Detroit offered some juicy picks. We could trade Savard and plug Holl into the d-core for now. I saw a lot of Holl in Toronto.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Why are so many people opposed to trading Matheson? He is completely irrelevant to the future of the team


That's what I'm saying

Do people think there would actually be real interest in Matheson at the deadline? Contenders don't need guys like him, he has more value in the offseason. Guys like Savard have interest because his skill set is worth more in the playoffs, contenders don't really worry about that skillset until the deadline AND there's always a shortage of right shot D-men.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Do people think there would actually be real interest in Matheson at the deadline? Contenders don't need guys like him, he has more value in the offseason. Guys like Savard have interest because his skill set is worth more in the playoffs, contenders don't really worry about that skillset until the deadline AND there's always a shortage of right shot D-men.

Yes I meant in the offseason , I don't think you get a guy like Matheson at the deadline.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Exactly why I didn't name Johnston. He's part of the team now and Dallas wouldn't be trading a roster player.

Looks like Stankhoven is too. Or will be by the end of the season.

 

[Goalfield13]

- Savard @ 50% retained for TML 2024 1st
- Future considerations for Justin Holl, 2024 2nd, 2025 3rd

 

[Garry Valk]

- Savard @ 50% retained for TML 2024 1st
- Future considerations for Justin Holl, 2024 2nd, 2025 3rd

no way on Savard, that pick is late late first round. Not enough.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Yes I meant in the offseason , I don't think you get a guy like Matheson at the deadline.

Then I guess what the market would be. I don't think Hughes has been against trading any veteran on the roster. Matheson has value on the team both on and off the ice, so I don't think there's a problem if he's not traded. However if Hughes' price is met then he's probably being moved (same as Savard).

 

[Goalfield13]

no way on Savard, that pick is late late first round. Not enough.

Leafs are likely out first round, so at least pick #24. That's a fair return for Savard. Tanev has kinda messed up the market.

 

[sampollock]

no way the laughs trade with the habs.. never
if you deal in the same division KH will want to squeeze out more

 

[Guy Larose]

KH in an interview already said that the 2 teams he wouldn't help were Boston and TO.

 

[Kosseca]

It's not that we want to get rid of Savard, its that we want to give playing time to the kids.

Matheson, Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Struble, Barron, and Kovacevic are 7 D that will be in the nhl next season. If we have Savard, then two of these players will be scratched each game.

It's much better development for Harris to be playing the right side than to be scratched.

We also have Trudeau, Mailloux, Reinbacher, and Engstrom who will be ready for nhl games next season.

Play time in the NHL shouldn't be given, it should be earn. In the last two season MTL was short on warm bodies to play at the NHL level and had to promote lots of kids and turn this team into a development one and not a competitive one. As time past, this conundrum is not longer there and young player need to go back to earning their spot.

Beyond that, Matheson, Savard, Guhle are the only 3 D that have secured their place. Struble and Xhekaj are very close, but I would say that should they no maintain their rhythm, they could be left out of the line up. Kovasevich, Harris and Barron are bubble D right now and the odd of seeing them being traded are pretty good. So, there is space in the line up for D that can play NHL level hockey

 

[sampollock]

try and trade this mess

As far as Gallagher is concerned, he is about to write an unwanted page in the club's history.

At 31, he could set an unenviable record by posting the worst differential in Canadian history over a season. His current -24 is alarming, and at this rate he could end the season at -35, a chilling result.

What makes the situation even more remarkable is that the worst differential recorded in the 115-year history of the CH was -31. Gallagher is in danger of surpassing this dismal record, taking the team to new heights of mediocrity.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

KH in an interview already said that the 2 teams he wouldn't help were Boston and TO.

Source? Seems like a weird thing to say.