HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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Bacchus1

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Go back read old threads, vast majority wanted Dubois. Although 100% now deny it
I wanted him as a free agent or as a cheap trade. WPG got a good haul for him from LA, and then he signed long term. I’m still not against trading for him for cheap, but I haven’t followed him much in LA. People seem to have negative views of him, but that isn’t that unusual.
 

Heffyhoof

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I hope we can wave goodbye to Matheson at the draft. He's had an amazing season, is still decently young, is signed for more than a year, what's not to like for a short-sighted GM? 1st and a top 5 prospect (obviously depends on the 1st and the pool.)
 

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After the Markstrom option fell through, Devils GM tried for Saros and this happened:



Can you believe Trotz?

Barry Trotz asked for Dawson Mercer, Seamus Casey, Akira Schmid, the Devils 2024 first-round pick, and the Devils 2025 2nd pick for Alexandre Carrier, Juuse Saros, with the Predators retaining 50 percent on Carrier.

Devils have multiple irons in the fire.

Is Dawson Mercer even available?

Mercer wasn't available last year for Meier, I don't think he's available for a goalie.

I don't think any the big name goalies supposedly available will be traded, teams are asking too much. And I don't blame the potential buyers, goalies get injured way too easily these days, their career are getting shorter because of it and constancy isn't what is used to be. And those goalies also want to get paid because goalies like Campbell, Petersen, etc got paid.
 
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yianik

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I dont recall many wanting to to give the farm for him

The vast majority wanted him if the price was low enough because Dubois was supposedly dead set on MTL

most only wanted him IF the price was low enough. That generally was always the caveat
I wanted him for the Florida 1st, when it was still late teens and had decent value, and when it sounded PLD was determined to come here.For the price LA paid ? No way.

Now I'd be worried we would be getting the very definition of a locker room cancer. This guy shows up for work when he feels like it and he makes his teammates nuts. I don't want him any closer than an opposing team bench.
 

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Sure ,I'd do that as well, but it's never happening. Are you joking or being serious?

Jokingly exasperated by Gallagher’s play ; even if Bergevin is now part of Los Angeles’ top brass, I obviously can’t see the Kings selling that low on Dubois so soon - unless maybe he has his own cocaine video about to go viral!
 

Boss Man Hughes

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Mercer wasn't available last year for Meier, I don't think he's available for a goalie.

I don't think any the big name goalies supposedly available will be traded, teams are asking too much. And I don't blame the potential buyers, goalies get injured way too easily these days, their career are getting shorter because of it and constancy isn't what is used to be. And those goalies also want to get paid because goalies like Campbell, Petersen, etc got paid.
They need a goaltender more than they needed Meier last year. They will need to offer something like Mercer and a 1st+ to get one. For example the Predators are takiing a risk trading Saros. Is Askarov the real thing and will he stay healthy? I certainly hope Mercer doesn't go to Nashville. That is where prospects go to die. Fire idiot Ruff and get Mercer on the 1st line.
 

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I wanted him as a free agent or as a cheap trade. WPG got a good haul for him from LA, and then he signed long term. I’m still not against trading for him for cheap, but I haven’t followed him much in LA. People seem to have negative views of him, but that isn’t that unusual.
even as a ufa, his contract now and his play this board would explode.. think of gally.. and how we all lose it
 

Heffyhoof

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I don't care if Suzuki whines to the media again about trades not bringing in anyone and only sending them out. Send out Matheson at the draft, I think he'll be worth the most then.
 
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kinghock

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I'll take Dubois for Gallagher and Anderson. A 2 for 1. I can give Harris in extra, no charge. Friday's boss special.
I think new LA coach Hiller likes Kaliev and PLD and no trades needed for these 2 players.
Hiller felt that Kaliyev was “probably our most dangerous offensive player” against Nashville, after the coaching staff dissected the video. He liked the energy that Kaliyev played with on Thursday and how he was “decisive in his actions”, turning the puck up ice and getting pucks directly to the net.
“We’re really looking forward to that line tonight with Dubie, Q and Arthur,” Hiller added. “That’s three big men, it should be pretty hard to contain.”
 

McGees

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200 pages on PLD last year...he goes somewhere else, signs an 8 year deal, plays like trash....
AND PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT GETTING HIM!!!!

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Ezpz

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I have a bad feeling that leafs will go far this playoffs.
It would require a lot of zebra help in my sometimes wrong--mostly to my wife--opinion. Most contenders have two d pairings that are elite and can contain or slow down top lines, and the Leafs don't even have two full good lines. They're just not built for playoff hockey. We're at a point now where I don't think their fourth best guy, Tavares, would be our best forward anymore. I'm not sure he'd be our second best anymore either. Next year I'd say he'd pretty firmly be on our second line in terms of talent.

Bertuzzi made a huge mistake not signing a long term deal and betting playing in Toronto would boost his numbers, but it's clear they only give favourable minutes to the big three and a half. He and Domi aren't useful in depth roles. After that you have Knies and five AHLers.

Their goalies aren't the type to steal anything except their contract money from the organization. Their D are actually, legitimately, worse than ours. They're regularly playing a guy who couldn't make the OIlers D, and then couldn't make it here even worse than he couldn't make the OIlers D and then played an entire season in the AHL with zero offers. It's not their fault of course, Muzzin retiring early hurt them a lot, but they did bet on a lot of retired racehorses to carry them in Brodie, Giordano, Muzzin and Klingberg so it should have been expected to bite them in the ass eventually.

I do think they'll be better next year, as I see some of their depth guys like Knies and Robertson taking steps forward, but the clock is ticking on the prime of the elite players.

I am less bullish on Matthews and maybe I'm a hater, but he seemingly destroys non-playoff teams for the majority of his multi-goal games. Every one of his hat tricks have been on teams that won't be in the playoffs. I'll use that language since Philly are currently in a spot but he scored on them after the Hart thing where they've been on a massive downswing.

Nylander also cooled off a fair bit after his extension was inked.

Marner was having a down year until a few weeks ago before going over 2 ppg in the last 9 games.

I just don't see it with them. I feel like their schtick works in the regular season where one big player takes over a few games then the next one does and they just coast into the playoffs based on that. None of them seem to handle physicality well and they're basically facing either Florida or Boston in the first round.

Who knows though? They're beating the conspiracy theory drum pretty hard this year so maybe they'll be ref immune in the playoffs and get tons of calls.
 
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