Lol ...so what happened to all those who were clamoring to sign him to a multi year 4 million contract after his 2 week strong start to the season ?
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season
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Sterling Archer
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Quick, trade him for Anderson! Similar size and production to, so they won't even miss him.
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Nico Cauzuki
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Kirby is the perfect center for CC unfortunately he cant stay healthy
Mrb1p
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“Other teams’ scouts are showing interest for Arber, Harris and Struble.”
#sitesDeMarde.
No one should be off the table even Arber.
Obviously all depends on the return.
26Mats
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I think Anderson has the potential to be productive. But we haven't brought it out. At this point I'm ready give him away for free. But no one will take him.
We. Can't have 12M in cap space allocated to him and Gallagher for 3 more years after this one. We have to get him going. Play him with RHP. It worked last year.
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Ezpz
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If he were able to stay at the level he was at it was a no brainer. The issue is we don't want to bet on him regaining that form and maintaining it when we're still a bottom five team. The team hasn't been performing up to the level we expected so we can simply tank another year or two to get elite talent. Guhle has been the only guy exceeding expectations.
RHP regressed. Xhekaj regressed. Harris regressed. Slaf progressed but isn't a significant player yet. Barron progressed but not enough to influence our position in the standings. Our non-NiCole and Matheson vets are largely useless and many are slumping. Ylonen does look good and has added many elements to his game but Marty seems to not want to push him into the top six.
The only issue with jettisoning Moneyhands too early is he's the only thing making Gally and Pearson not anchors. They've already slowed though so may as well trade the only positive value asset we have before he gets dragged down to their level.
Granted injuries have not helped, Lindstrom is our second highest paid D at 950k.
I was hoping Pearson and gally's hot streaks would continue and we could trade gally for a different bad contract and a sweetener and get a pick for Pearson.
I just feel like with the way the season is shaping up Hughes needs to make a commitment one way or another with Monahan and Monty/Allen. I'd rather be losing with primeau in net since he's been improving steadily. At primeaus age Monty was a horrible backup/ahler.
Goalies only really develop in the NHL. Nobody jumped in from the AHL and was amazing in the NHL immediately except for Price, who later struggled. We see it all the time where garbage teams develop a steady flow of NHL goalies just by giving them time. Then they move to the LA and Bostons defensive powerhouses of the league and become top tier.
I was worried going into the season the D would take too many steps forward and we'd leapfrog a bunch of teams (but nowhere near the playoffs) and pick 7-9th or so.
Luckily yzerman went all in on free agents. As did the sens who should pass us eventually. Columbus, Philly, etc went heavily into roster and coaching improvements. Everyone we completed for last place with last year except San Jose went into win now mode with their off-seasons. We did nothing on that front and a lot of our guys have only taken marginal steps or regressed entirely. The most improved looking guy is out for the season after one game and a period. Perfect tank year. Finally a strong draft and a bad season are lining up for us.
DAChampion
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Current wish list for the deadline:
Trade Monahan, Montembeault, Pearson
Give more ice time to Ylonen, Struble, Harris, Primeau to better establish how good they are.
Pick up a reclamation project such as Kakko.
Trade Monahan, Montembeault, Pearson
Give more ice time to Ylonen, Struble, Harris, Primeau to better establish how good they are.
Pick up a reclamation project such as Kakko.
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It's a fine line between dreaming and delusional.Anderson
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One can dream, can't he
It's a fine line between dreaming and delusional.
Hey, don't crush my dreams... Stranger things have happened. Never discount the old school obsession with big beefy players.
There are a bunch of guys from the '19/'20 draft classes that could be interesting targets...
Holtz, Poulin, Turcotte, Krebs, Holloway... All guys on teams that have some immediate needs &/or logjam concerns that Hughes could potentially take advantage of.
Will be interesting to see how next 2 months unfold
26Mats
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My trade list is Pearson, Savard, and Allen.
Montembault and Monahan could be useful medium and long term players. Both could help develop the youth. The youth need decent goaltending and good centers to develop around. And both are young enough to be here in 5 years.
I'd hang on to Savard for another year unless there's a big offer on the table. His salary isn't a burden and having a veteran precense on the right side, even if kept to a bottom pairing role next year, has some value with our young D group.
My trade wish list:
Monahan, Kovacevic & Pearson for best return available
1 of Allen or Monty, whichever gives better return (Monty will be pricey to re-sign & I'm not sold... Allen at 3.25 next year is a better "mentor" role fit/stop gap imo)
Anderson & Armia if any takers will do so without retention, don't really care what return is & would take expiring contract dump if needed (ie Mantha)
Lindstrom, Harris, Ylonen if any can attract 2nd round pick return or equivalent prospect with waiver eligibility next season
DAChampion
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Monahan would probably return more than Savard.
The value of a late 1st is to be used as a piece in a trade to land a big fish.
26Mats
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I think we should trade one of Kovacevic or Savard, given next year we should have Reinbacher and Barron as the top 2 RD's.
Habitant#1
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It's time to start selling and dismantling. We don't have much to sell but it's time to move them. Bottom5 in relevant stats, only ahead on games-in-hand. Time to change things up. Hughes can't go two straight years of bungling the trade deadline with his own ineptitude.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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I'm sure he's pulling out his hair trying to get deals done...
Agreed we only need one of those two. Savard may have the greater market value.
I don't think Reinbacher will be in the NHL next year. Nor will Hutson or Mailloux likely make the club either.
Struble will likely stick around.
If Savard is traded, I see
Matheson-Barron
Guhle-Kovacevic
Struble-Xhekaj
extra: Harris
Agreed... While I'm not so sure about RB being a lock for next season, btw Barron/Lindstrom/Mailloux (plus Guhle/Harris who can play either side), I don't think keeping both Kovacevic & Savard is necessary.
I would bet Kovacevic generates a better trade return & Savard provides more of a vet mentor precense, that's why I think it preferable to move Kovy & keep Savard the extra year (then, ideally, trade him mid-year next season as one of the younger RD shows enough to slot in a regular role.
26Mats
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Kovacevic started out the year very well, but has struggled lately. It will be interesting to see how he plays leading up to the deadline, and what his value is then...
But yes, once we identify players that are not par to the future, we should move them to make room for guys that are. If Guhle, Barron, Matheson, and Xhekaj are locks for 4 spots in the top 6/7 next year, that leaves 2/3 spots for Harris, Struble, Savard, Kovacevic, and Reinbacher. Imo, if Reinbacher makes it 2 or 3 vets need to be traded. If he doesn't 1 or 2 do.
LaP
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Unless Harris value is high i don't think it's worth sitting him for Kova. I think Kova is grossly overrated honestly. He makes lot of bone head plays. I'd trade him for the highest bidder. Like Kulak he can be a serviceable guy but he's nothing special.
Struggled is an euphemism. There at least 2 plays every games i watched lately where i scratched my head wondering WTF was Kova thinking.
McGees
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My wish list for the deadline:
ANYTHING AT ALL CAUSE LAST DEADLINE WAS DONKEY BALLZ!
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