HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Habs13]

I think Anderson 50% retained can be moved. But we might need the cap space in the next few years. I'd move him with 50% retained in a deal for a young player if I thought that player was the next Newhook or Dach.

Gally probably is not movable at 50% retained.

Even if we could retain 80% on Gallagher, there's no interest. He's totally washed up.

 

[David Suzuki]

Not only that but Henderson is a great city to leave when you have a family and the atmosphere is great

90 percent of NHL cities match that description, to put it another way, no one is going out of their way to play for the Raiders who are one of the NFL's most storied teams and in Vegas as well.

 

[sampollock]

HuGo trying to navigate our team saddled with Gally, Anderson, Dvo and Armia contracts.

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pile of scrap iron, no use at all

 

[McGees]

Dvorak and Armia can probably be moved this off-season or at the next year deadline. It will be the last year of their contract anyhow.

Gally is an anchor.

As for Anderson, I'm crossing my fingers that some GM believe he just need a change in scenery/coach and call dibs this off-season.

Ya we have got rid of a lot of bad contracts...the end is near.
Gally is gonna need a buyout or LTIRetirement and Anderson ain't going anywhere with that contract and his miserable drop in play.

 

[Runner77]

no way Gally ever leaves this team

savard I say is gone, way to valuable to a cup team

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Savard is very valuable to the team, as a vet with great mentorship and leadership qualities as a crop of future Ds make their way to the lineup.

He’s also someone with Cup experience who can be valuable as a playoff warrior and who is at a reasonable AAV. There’s gotta be a contender who wants this guy for two playoff runs — and who might be willing to overpay. If the right price is being offered, can’t see how Hughes doesn’t jump on it.

 

[sampollock]

Savard is very valuable to the team, as a vet with great mentorship and leadership qualities as a crop of future Ds make their way to the lineup.

He’s also someone with Cup experience who can be valuable as a playoff warrior and who is at a reasonable AAV. There’s gotta be a contender who wants this guy for two playoff runs — and who might be willing to overpay. If the right price is being offered, can’t see how Hughes doesn’t jump on it.

he really is

the deal would have to be a very good one, if KH would look at it

 

[Runner77]

HuGo trying to navigate our team saddled with Gally, Anderson, Dvo and Armia contracts.

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[Archijerej]

Vegas is a market that everyone wants to go though, they can’t be compared to any other team except LA and NYR maybe

Let's build a team that regularly goes past the first playoff round and then evaluate just how unattractive Montreal really is.

 

[Runner77]

Even if we could retain 80% on Gallagher, there's no interest. He's totally washed up.

He’s an eventual buyout candidate. I believe a poster had laid out that the first best opportunity to do it in is next summer, but I don’t remember what the cap hit and number of years was.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Dvorak and Armia can probably be moved this off-season or at the next year deadline. It will be the last year of their contract anyhow.

Gally is an anchor.

As for Anderson, I'm crossing my fingers that some GM believe he just need a change in scenery/coach and call dibs this off-season.

Montreal also has something like 6 mil in cap space with a mostly full roster (only Xhekaj and Barron need new contracts). That also doesn't factor in Price's contract, so Montreal may have up to 10 mil in LTIR room on top of that.

I get wanting maximum cap flexibility, but I'm very much against worrying about creating cap space just for the sake of it.

 

[Vachon23]

Let's build a team that regularly goes past the first playoff round and then evaluate just how unattractive Montreal really is.

I can assure you that even if we where contender, Vegas would be more attractive then MTL

 

[Egresch]

I could maybe see Dallas making move for Kovacevic. They could need cheap depth on the RD

Dallas look like a great trading partner for us.
To DAL: Kovacevic, Evans, B prospect/mid rd pick
To MTL: Faksa, 1st round pick
DAL gets 3RD, slight upgrade to Faksa 4C, saves cap 0.8M incl. next season. MTL trades quantity for quality (1st).

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Danault is on pace for 45 pts. He could end up with 50 though. Haven't seen many LA games. Was Dubois give a decent shot as a 2c?

Dubois is bad this year. 24 pts, 11 G in 53 games and -16.
Danault is ok : 31 pts, 10 G in 53 games, and +5.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Vegas is a market that everyone wants to go though, they can’t be compared to any other team except LA and NYR maybe

FLO & TB are nice too, good team, nice weather. Colorado, Boston and TO are good hockey/cities places.

 

[MasterMatt25]

I thought this was a trade proposal thread

 

[Rapala]

Dubois is bad this year. 24 pts, 11 G in 53 games and -16.
Danault is ok : 31 pts, 10 G in 53 games, and +5.

Damn and to think people wanted to pay him more than Suzuki $$$ plus assets while he has less than 1/2 of the production on a better team.
We are well past the fool me once stage it's becoming fool me thrice.

 

[Vachon23]

Dallas look like a great trading partner for us.
To DAL: Kovacevic, Evans, B prospect/mid rd pick
To MTL: Faksa, 1st round pick
DAL gets 3RD, slight upgrade to Faksa 4C, saves cap 0.8M incl. next season. MTL trades quantity for quality (1st).

Where not getting a 1st for Kovacevic and Evans

I wouldn’t hate getting Ty Dellandrea for Kovacevic. Could be a nice reclamation project

 

[Runner77]

I thought this was a trade proposal thread

To think that one of the reasons I spend time in here is to flee some of the irritants from the days’ news. Moar hockey talk, pls.

 

[HabbyGuy]

In regards to the all important retention spots, is it not possible that the habs could get another team to retain on say a Armia or Savard, in hopes of saving our last spot for Allen or vice versa?

We have a ton of picks and could afford a 3rd or 4th rounder to save our last spot no? Say Chicago decides they'd be willing to retain on Armia for a 4th as an example...

Or am I not understanding this correctly?

If this were correct, I suppose the question now becomes would be if it were worth it depending on the return we get in the subsequent trades.

Either way I'm just trying to clarify if this is indeed an option, or workaround for our situation.

 

[HABitual Fan]

In regards to the all important retention spots, is it not possible that the habs could get another team to retain on say a Armia or Savard, in hopes of saving our last spot for Allen?

We have a ton of picks and could afford a 3rd or 4th rounder to save our last spot no? Say Chicago decides they'd be willing to retain on Armia for a 4th as an example...

Or am I not understanding this correctly?

If this were correct, I suppose the question now becomes would be if it were worth it depending on the return we get in the subsequent trades.

Either way I'm just trying to clarify if this is indeed an option, or workaround for our situation.

The 3rd or 4rh pick you are giving up is probably more than you'll get for Allen retained. Armia you'll need to give up a pick just for taking him, never mind retention
Unless it is strictly to clear cap, just let their contracts run out of hope some contender's goalie gets injured before the TDL and Allen is their cheapest option

 

[HabbyGuy]

The 3rd or 4rh pick you are giving up is probably more than you'll get for Allen retained.
Armia you'll need to give up a pick just for taking him, never mind retention
Unless it is strictly to clear cap, just let their contracts run out of hope some contender's goalie gets injured before the TDL and Allen is their cheapest option

I understand, the idea was to save the retention spot we do have for another, let's say we move Allen for a 3rd, but it's costs a 3rd or 4th for another team to do the retaining for us. It would basically be a wash, but we get Allen off the books and still have a spot to retain on whoever we can trade for actual value. Say Savard for example.

I can easily see Savard getting a 1st. I can also see how it's probably just easier to hang onto Allen until the offseason, and possibly get some positive albeit tiny value, but I was just suggesting there are ways to get around our limited retention spots issue. We have plenty of draft picks to use to our benefit.

I also don't think it's that hard of a sell to move a retained Armia at the TDL. He's has value, especially in the playoffs. He's actually built for them IMO. There's no way he should cost us anything just to move him. If he did, I'd just rather keep him until next TDL.

I could be wrong or crazy but that's how I see Armia, especially a retained one. He's quite useful in the playoffs.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[MtlSars]

Let's build a team that regularly goes past the first playoff round and then evaluate just how unattractive Montreal really is.

Out of the 32 cities in the NHL, I would argue Montreal is pretty attractive. I don't know when is the last time you traveled in North America but you can go to NY and LA if you want but they aren't half as glamorous as they used to be.

Raleigh, Buffalo, Ottawa, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, San Jose, Philly and Pittsburgh aren't exactly gems of urbanism, Columbus f***ing Ohio, New jersey is whatever as **** and finally Arizona....

 

[red devil]

Vegas has a lot of cap space now as they put Eichel on LTIR

 

[Deus ex machina]

I understand, the idea was to save the retention spot we do have for another, let's say we move Allen for a 3rd, but it's costs a 3rd or 4th for another team to do the retaining for us. It would basically be a wash, but we get Allen off the books and still have a spot to retain on whoever we can trade for actual value. Say Savard for example.

I can easily see Savard getting a 1st. I can also see how it's probably just easier to hang onto Allen until the offseason, and possibly get some positive albeit tiny value, but I was just suggesting there are ways to get around our limited retention spots issue. We have plenty of draft picks to use to our benefit.

I also don't think it's that hard of a sell to move a retained Armia at the TDL. He's has value, especially in the playoffs. He's actually built for them IMO. There's no way he should cost us anything just to move him. If he did, I'd just rather keep him until next TDL.

I could be wrong or crazy but that's how I see Armia, especially a retained one. He's quite useful in the playoffs.

You're right about Armia. He's having a pretty decent season after all.
I don't get this obsession some here have with wanting to get rid of him at all cost. It's not like he's Gallagher...lol
He's on pace to score 20ish goals and he's +1.
He's 6'4, 220 lbs and can play up and down the lineup. The Habs don't have too many of those.
If you can get something for him, great. If not, just keep him.


It will take way more than a 3rd to get another team to retain on a 4M contract with another year left on it.
That's why it won't happen.