HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Agalloch]

What do you do for next year w all of Dach, Johansen, and Evans under contract? Kick the can down the road for the summer?

We hope Johansen is traded for a pick next year.

 

[Egresch]

Zegras is the equal of Boldy and Caufield and probably ahead of Cozens. Cozens should be doing better than a 50 pter by now.

Caufield is a sniper, so it has little more value. Boldy is better than Zegras. The problem is that Zegras is point production only. No more valuable aspects in his game- weak faceoffs for a center, not physical, very low defensive awareness. So you cannot just look at point. Cozens is pacing for 50 pts only, but he is still a big center. And Zegras is just 7 pts in 20 GP which is even worse.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Caufield is a sniper, so it has little more value. Boldy is better than Zegras. The problem is that Zegras is point production only. No more valuable aspects in his game- weak faceoffs for a center, not physical, very low defensive awareness. So you cannot just look at point. Cozens is pacing for 50 pts only, but he is still a big center. And Zegras is just 7 pts in 20 GP which is even worse.

I'm very weary of younger offense only players who have their production dip mightily when that team graduates more players.

Zegras with all the deployment and opportunity in the world might score points - but I don't want another Drouin.

 

[Captain Mountain]

RyJo Kovalenko for Allen Armia 2nd?

Pass. What's in it for Montreal?

 

[Team_Spirit]

It's the last in person draft at the freaking sphere. All draft picks are worth double.

Source; trust me bro

 

[HuGort]

Probably something lost in the shuffle is that when Dreger refuted that a trade was imminent, he did say the Avs and Habs haven't spoken the last few days. Meaning that they have been talking.

If AVS have bad expiring contract coming back Habs might get something

 

[Heffyhoof]

Do you have a cut off for trading this pick? Me personally, pre-draft and I'd trade 10th. At the draft, if we are sitting say 7th and Mack, Lindstrom and Demidov are gone, I'd probably do it. I'd hold firm for those three though.

The chances Catton, Helenius or Eiserman surpass what Zegras has already done (2 x 60+ pts seasons) are there, but slim at best.

If a pick around 7th is a player who's chances are slim at best of beating just 2 60 point seasons, this top-10 is less than puddle deep. I'm still catching up on watching players so I suppose it could be true, I'm guilty of always watching the d-men of a draft first and more often.

 

[salbutera]

We hope Johansen is traded for a pick next year.

What would Avs do that deal?

 

[BaseballCoach]

The Oilers are taking on 12M and clearing only about 7.5M.
They don't have the cap space to make that deal.

The only way it works if they take Gally after the season.
They can keep Foegele. I think they'd rather have him than Gally anyway.

And their priority seems to add another top 6 player.

We have a guy we could make available for a price, with 9 goals in 37 games (20 goal pace) who can also kill penalties and has had some playoff success with his big frame.

Ryan Johansen for Jake Allen. A center for a goalie. We need centers. Cap hit are the same.

I proposed that myself twice here.

 

[hoc123]

It's the last in person draft at the freaking sphere. All draft picks are worth double.

Source; trust me bro

Get out of here James Dolan

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

What would Avs do that deal?

Obviously to unload a 6 mil waste, save 3 mil and get a backup goalteder. Habs get nothing out of the deal.

 

[nhlfan9191]

nice assumptions

What assumption? We’ve literally watched our fanbase fall in love with the idea of a player over what the player actually is recently. Why is Anaheim having troubles resigning him? Will we have trouble signing him for something fair? Is he really the missing piece for our team when a team in the exact same position doesn’t seem to think so? These are questions you have to ask. When I watch him play I see a lot of flash and not much else. I’m not interested in that taking up a lot of cap space long term.

 

[sampollock]

the one for one trade makes sense give the habs a centre for now

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Any GM worth their salt wouldn’t give up anything of value for Jake Allen.

 

[Kwikwi]

Pass. What's in it for Montreal?

Kovalenko....

 

[Vachon23]

Caufield is a sniper, so it has little more value. Boldy is better than Zegras. The problem is that Zegras is point production only. No more valuable aspects in his game- weak faceoffs for a center, not physical, very low defensive awareness. So you cannot just look at point. Cozens is pacing for 50 pts only, but he is still a big center. And Zegras is just 7 pts in 20 GP which is even worse.

Yes I’m taking Cozens and Boldy before both Zegras and Caufield

 

[WatchfulElm]

Matthew Phillips on waivers.

He's the kind of quality filler I would claim because of all our injuries. So we can allow one of Roy or Gignac to play in Laval for their playoff run. And he can't be more useless than Ylonen, right?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

What assumption? We’ve literally watched our fanbase fall in love with the idea of a player over what the player actually is recently. Why is Anaheim having troubles resigning him? Will we have trouble signing him for something fair? Is he really the missing piece for our team when a team in the exact same position doesn’t seem to think so? These are questions you have to ask. When I watch him play I see a lot of flash and not much else. I’m not interested in that taking up a lot of cap space long term.

He is signed until 2025-26. And he is not supposed to be the missing piece.

 

[sampollock]

He is signed until 2025-26. And he is not supposed to be the missing piece.

at least you know the $$ for him, no contract talks

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Yes I’m taking Cozens and Boldy before both Zegras and Caufield

Cozens is overrated. Sabres would be much better if he was any good. He gets to play with much better players than any of the others. Boldy only recently got to be a line with either Eriksson-Ek and Kaprizov.

 

[nhlfan9191]

He is signed until 2025-26. And he is not supposed to be the missing piece.

If we’re trading for him, it will be at the cost of him being the missing piece. His cap a couple of years from now when we’re suppose to be competitive will also require paying him like he’s that as well. If we’re going to pay the price for a center which we need, and we’re already having to give up high value assets which people are suggesting a top 10 pick a lot in these threads, then we should go all in on something more then what Zegras offers.

 

[sampollock]

If we’re trading for him, it will be at the cost of him being the missing piece. His cap after a couple of years from now will also require paying him like he’s that as well. If we’re going to pay the price for a center which we need, and we’re already having to give up high value assets which people are suggesting a top 10 pick a lot in these threads, then we should go all in on something more then what Zegras offers.

that is the ?
who should KH go all in with? what team would trade a very good scoring player ??

 

[nhlfan9191]

that is the ?
who should KH go all in with? what team would trade a very good scoring player ??

We aren’t in a rush. We may already have that player in Dach if he’s healthy. We aren’t in a position where we have to panic.

 

[sampollock]

We aren’t in a rush. We may already have that player in Dach if he’s healthy. We aren’t in a position where we have to panic.

agreed
but easy to trade picks then the players you pick with them, I think

 

[Jaynki]

Matthew Phillips on waivers.

He's the kind of quality filler I would claim because of all our injuries. So we can allow one of Roy or Gignac to play in Laval for their playoff run. And he can't be more useless than Ylonen, right?

Ark