HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Kosseca]

If BU bows out early in Final Four (or even if they don’t), I expect Hutson will be signed and finish season w Habs - essentially a tryout.

Unless he’s completely overwhelmed it’ll be a precursor to being part of the D next season - HuGo will value his ability to run the Habs PP over his defensive shortcomings

We all know that the odds of him leaving the NCAA this year is very high. He's also going to play in MTL if he does, but until we see him play those games, it's impossible to infer that he'll play in MTL next season. If anything, he's more likely to start in Laval just due to the number game: Matheson, Guhle, Xhakaj, Struble, Harris, Barron, Savard, Kova all needing to play NHL not AHL. Struble can still be sent to Laval, but he's playing good enough to stay. add to that Mailloux and Reinb to the mix.... he's got to be freaking fastastic to take someone else spot.

The only urgency is that, if Zegras is available, we're probably not the only interested team. There's no urgency on the Habs end in terms of "we need this player in our lineup ASAP" but if a deal can happen sooner rather than later then hey, why not?

I would argue that unless it is a deal you can't refuse, you wait and any deal would have to not involve our 2024 1st

 

[salbutera]

We all know that the odds of him leaving the NCAA this year is very high. He's also going to play in MTL if he does, but until we see him play those games, it's impossible to infer that he'll play in MTL next season. If anything, he's more likely to start in Laval just due to the number game: Matheson, Guhle, Xhakaj, Struble, Harris, Barron, Savard, Kova all needing to play NHL not AHL. Struble can still be sent to Laval, but he's playing good enough to stay. add to that Mailloux and Reinb to the mix.... he's got to be freaking fastastic to take someone else spot.

would be a total shock if Hutson steps in game 1, and doesn’t show he’s head & shoulders the best PP QB option the org has - if so, that by itself will become a differentiator

 

[Saundies]

We all know that the odds of him leaving the NCAA this year is very high. He's also going to play in MTL if he does, but until we see him play those games, it's impossible to infer that he'll play in MTL next season. If anything, he's more likely to start in Laval just due to the number game: Matheson, Guhle, Xhakaj, Struble, Harris, Barron, Savard, Kova all needing to play NHL not AHL. Struble can still be sent to Laval, but he's playing good enough to stay. add to that Mailloux and Reinb to the mix.... he's got to be freaking fastastic to take someone else spot.


I would argue that unless it is a deal you can't refuse, you wait and any deal would have to not involve our 2024 1st

I'm definitely on the second part of the train. I don't think I would trade our 2024 1st at all (unless it was an insane return.. even better than Zegras would be). It would have to involve Winnipeg's/one of our D prospects/MAYBE Calgary's.

But I do think we have the resources to get a deal done and keep our pick this year. I may be wrong and Anaheim won't trade him but I feel like if we're going to trade picks to get a player, Zegras makes a lot of sense in terms of need and age.

 

[HomaridII]

would be a total shock if Hutson steps in game 1, and doesn’t show he’s head & shoulders the best PP QB option the org has - if so, that by itself will become a differentiator

I expect Hutson to play 1-2 games this year. He should go to the final 4, his team is good enough, and that means his season will finish very late.

I don't expect him to be the first PP option out of respect for Matheson but yes, Hutson is already the best PP QB the Habs have by a mile. Its frustration as heck to watch Matheson back there when you've seen what Hutson can do. As I have said before, even if he was a shit defenseman, I would dress him JUST for that and late game down a goal situations. He is THAT much a differentiator in those circumstances.

 

[Benstheman]

I'm definitely on the second part of the train. I don't think I would trade our 2024 1st at all (unless it was an insane return.. even better than Zegras would be). It would have to involve Winnipeg's/one of our D prospects/MAYBE Calgary's.

But I do think we have the resources to get a deal done and keep our pick this year. I may be wrong and Anaheim won't trade him but I feel like if we're going to trade picks to get a player, Zegras makes a lot of sense in terms of need and age.

We still have our 1st in 2025, which should still be a top 10-12 pick.

 

[sampollock]

man we need a trade...get this board hopping

 

[Kosseca]

would be a total shock if Hutson steps in game 1, and doesn’t show he’s head & shoulders the best PP QB option the org has - if so, that by itself will become a differentiator

I hope you are right, but I dont see him outplaying Matheson right now. He would have to be put on the PP2 to start and go from there. Even if he's good, he still need to beat Matheson, which is doing a good job right now

 

[Kosseca]

I'm definitely on the second part of the train. I don't think I would trade our 2024 1st at all (unless it was an insane return.. even better than Zegras would be). It would have to involve Winnipeg's/one of our D prospects/MAYBE Calgary's.

But I do think we have the resources to get a deal done and keep our pick this year. I may be wrong and Anaheim won't trade him but I feel like if we're going to trade picks to get a player, Zegras makes a lot of sense in terms of need and age.

I dont know what Ana want, so hard to make an offer, but if they are looking for another young skilled player, there is no deal to be made here. If they are ok with picks, you can build a package, with 2004 1st WIN, MTL 2025 1st (protected top 10) and CAL 1st. But, the reality remains that adding Zegras make sense if you know where you want him to play long term and you may not know that until the draft lottery

 

[BoneHutson]

I repost this trade simply because I think it could make a lot of sense for each teams involved. 3-way trade

Matheson + Evans + 2nd RD pick 24 to TB for Sergachev

Sergachev to WAS for Leonard

TB gets immediate help (and a much cheaper replacement who produces at a better rate), a bottom 6 C which they absolutely need (for next year also) and an extra pick which they need.

WAS gets an amazing dmen wholl help them win with Ovi, Wilson, Carlson and cie starting next year.

With Leonard, our lineup would only need 1 (ideally 2) more top player (with our first). Best case scenario would be to get Celebrini our Lindstrom, and then to pull out a trade for Zegras with our remaining assets (+picks that we could get for Savard, maybe Anderson,etc). But lets use WPG and CGYs first as a base for Zegras (which is more than fair imo).

Thats a legit scary lineup
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Zegras-Dach-Newhook
Roy-Celebrini/Lindstrom-Leonard
Heineman-Beck-RHP/Armia

 

[BarracudaMtl]

and how did you do with that proposal on the main board?

 

[DAChampion]

and how did you do with that proposal on the main board?

Why does that matter?

Is there some value in being a popular authority figure there?

Money?

Women?

 

[Michelangelo]

What we need to trade to get Crosby during the offseason?

 

[BarracudaMtl]

Why does that matter?

Is there some value in being a popular authority figure there?

Money?

Women?

I'm just curious.... it's always good to know the pulse of what others are thinking

 

[WeThreeKings]

What we need to trade to get Crosby during the offseason?

Just wait out his contract.

 

[Vachon23]

I repost this trade simply because I think it could make a lot of sense for each teams involved. 3-way trade

Matheson + Evans + 2nd RD pick 24 to TB for Sergachev

Sergachev to WAS for Leonard

TB gets immediate help (and a much cheaper replacement who produces at a better rate), a bottom 6 C which they absolutely need (for next year also) and an extra pick which they need.

WAS gets an amazing dmen wholl help them win with Ovi, Wilson, Carlson and cie starting next year.

With Leonard, our lineup would only need 1 (ideally 2) more top player (with our first). Best case scenario would be to get Celebrini our Lindstrom, and then to pull out a trade for Zegras with our remaining assets (+picks that we could get for Savard, maybe Anderson,etc). But lets use WPG and CGYs first as a base for Zegras (which is more than fair imo).

Thats a legit scary lineup
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Zegras-Dach-Newhook
Roy-Celebrini/Lindstrom-Leonard
Heineman-Beck-RHP/Armia

EA Sports

It’s in the game

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I feel the habs are just 1 elite offensive piece and a couple of years away (needing the kids to continue developing) from becoming a contending team for a long time.

We could get that elite offensive piece by drafting one this year if our pick is high enough or by making a trade (ex: Zegras). Maybe we even already have that piece if Roy/newhook become a ppg player.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Roy - Dach - X
Newhook - Beck - Farrell/Mesar
Heineman - Xhekaj - Tuch

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Engstrom
Not included, but could be: Struble, Trudeau, Harris, Barron

Montebeault/Primeau/Fowler/Dobes

This lineup projects to be very good.

A great top 6, a shut down 3rd line, and a big physical 4th line.
A d-corps that has size, physicality, high-end offense, and are all able to move the puck well.
Goaltending should be good as well. Monty is looking like a number 1, and we have some very good goalie prospects.

The powerplay should be elite:
PP1 of Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Dach, Hutson
PP2 of X, Roy, Newhook, Farrell/Mesar, Mailloux

The penalty kill should be good as well when we have players like Suzuki, Slaf, Dach, Roy, Beck, Farrell, Guhle, and Reinbacher who could play on it.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

What we need to trade to get Crosby during the offseason?

after next season, UFA!! Perfect timing for us

 

[salbutera]

I repost this trade simply because I think it could make a lot of sense for each teams involved. 3-way trade

Matheson + Evans + 2nd RD pick 24 to TB for Sergachev

Sergachev to WAS for Leonard

TB gets immediate help (and a much cheaper replacement who produces at a better rate), a bottom 6 C which they absolutely need (for next year also) and an extra pick which they need.

WAS gets an amazing dmen wholl help them win with Ovi, Wilson, Carlson and cie starting next year.

With Leonard, our lineup would only need 1 (ideally 2) more top player (with our first). Best case scenario would be to get Celebrini our Lindstrom, and then to pull out a trade for Zegras with our remaining assets (+picks that we could get for Savard, maybe Anderson,etc). But lets use WPG and CGYs first as a base for Zegras (which is more than fair imo).

Thats a legit scary lineup
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Zegras-Dach-Newhook
Roy-Celebrini/Lindstrom-Leonard
Heineman-Beck-RHP/Armia

So who will assume 25TOI per game starting next season Matheson presently fills with the org already stating playoffs are the goal next season?

Teams don’t acquire players w term remaining at deadline time

 

[vokiel]

What would you trade to get Gallagher off the books?

Nothing, we're not in cap hell.

Why does that matter?

Is there some value in being a popular authority figure there?

Money?

Women?

It matters if all fans from the club you are targeting tell you they don't need what you are offering.

 

[BoneHutson]

So who will assume 25TOI per game starting next season Matheson presently fills with the org already stating playoffs are the goal next season?

Teams don’t acquire players w term remaining at deadline time

You can just sign Edmundson to a one year deal and let him suffer against the other teams top lines

 

[sampollock]

Got Yer Back -- Lebrun podcast interviews KH

 

[Hannibal]

Got Yer Back -- Lebrun podcast interviews KH

Can you provide any resume please?

 

[Mcdonaldz]

Haven’t seen a Slaf for Lafreniere proposal in a while

 

[schwang26]

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Dach - Zegras - Newhook

Who are you trading to get this lineup? I’d guess Newhook would have to go. There’s no one else the Ducks would want after him. Top line is untouchable of course.

 

[The Real Timo]

Can;t wait for Gallagher's return tomorrow. It will be something to behold.

It's ridiculous that you can't give him even even for free. What about other leagues? Can he be traded to other leagues?