HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[sampollock]

KH will get a guy...
Too many picks , needs to use these to snap up a forward

 

[HuGort]

Doubt Habs trade Savard or Matheson. Character veterans generally important part on rebuilding team. They have great affect on youth.

 

[BLONG7]

I am just saying in the 3rd we should see progress is all.

Absolutely agree................there are ups and downs with this season, but would think we have seen some progress this season also....
Slafkosky being the primary guy to progress.....

HuGo has had to dig out of a snowstorm, while rebuilding the team....
MSL is the one, I would like to see get better as the ride continues, along with his assistants......everyone in the show needs to get better.
I like the direction, but it's painful at times for sure.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Doubt Habs trade Savard or Matheson. Character veterans generally important part on rebuilding team. They have great affect on youth.

We don’t have enough depth on the blueline yet to get rid of either of those guys imo. Maybe a team makes on offer we can’t refuse, but I think they both stay, Savard in particular until at least next season.

 

[Jaynki]

With Hutson, Reinbacher and Mailloux close to being ready.

We gonna have a decision to take and its gonna be obviously between Struble and Xhekaj. (Matheson, Guhle, Hutson and Mailloux, Reinbacher as RD i think are the obvious keeper.) Its a tough call honestly.

I would do everything possible with our 1st RD pick this year, WPG pick, Struble (or Xhekaj), could also add Beck/Mesar to secure Cayden Lindstrom or acquire Quinton Byfield in LA since they are going in the gutter.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Roy - Dach - Lindstrom/Byfield

Thats a massive, massive top 6.


8OV + Struble + WPG picks is a steep price but it might be the king of overpayment for us to take the next step.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Would you accept this trade for zegras:

MTL - Zegras

ANA - Newhook, 1st Rd pk (wpg 2024), 1st Rd pk (CGY 2025), Harris, and Allen (cap dump)

Giving up too much. Zegras is not worth his cap right now. That could change of course but not excited to give up so much. Switch Gallagher for Allen and I might say yes.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

What would you trade to get Gallagher off the books?

 

[Saundies]

What would you trade to get Gallagher off the books?

Right now, nothing. Gallagher is a perfectly fine 3rd liner and his contract isn't hindering us in our current position.

If we were playoff-bound and looking to contend right away, probably a good amount. But it's not the right time IMO.

 

[sampollock]

Right now, nothing. Gallagher is a perfectly fine 3rd liner and his contract isn't hindering us in our current position.

If we were playoff-bound and looking to contend right away, probably a good amount. But it's not the right time IMO.

agreed Gally is going now where , sad but true. No one wants this guy at this $$

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Right now, nothing. Gallagher is a perfectly fine 3rd liner and his contract isn't hindering us in our current position.

If we were playoff-bound and looking to contend right away, probably a good amount. But it's not the right time IMO.

I agree now is not the right time but next year, you're gonna have to pay Guhle, Slaf, etc so I believe one of Anderson or Gallagher will have to be traded. Again not until next summer but it'll need to happen

 

[Egresch]

We gonna have a decision to take and its gonna be obviously between Struble and Xhekaj. (Matheson, Guhle, Hutson and Mailloux, Reinbacher as RD i think are the obvious keeper.) Its a tough call honestly.

I am not sure if we keep Matheson, if we have so many interesting pieces at LD. Plus I am not still convinced about Hutson. I see improvement in his defensive play, but it is a huge question marks how he translates to NHL. Farrell also looked very good in NCAA and he is struggling at pro level. It is solid probability that he ends up as PP quarterback specialist, but 7th D because he would be D liability.

 

[Jaynki]

I am not sure if we keep Matheson, if we have so many interesting pieces at LD. Plus I am not still convinced about Hutson. I see improvement in his defensive play, but it is a huge question marks how he translates to NHL. Farrell also looked very good in NCAA and he is struggling at pro level. It is solid probability that he ends up as PP quarterback specialist, but 7th D because he would be D liability.

Matheson 8th most productive D since we acquired him. Playing 25min/night against team top lines. He is untouchable and he aint going anywhere.

Hutson is a record breaking dman, totally different beast than Farrell who was in the USHL at the same stage where Hutson broke NCAA record. I do agree that proof will need to be made tho.

We will see.

I think Struble/Xhekaj are the valuable odd man out on D. (Kovacevic, Barron, Harris and the rest i don't consider holds much value.)

 

[Deus ex machina]

I agree now is not the right time but next year, you're gonna have to pay Guhle, Slaf, etc so I believe one of Anderson or Gallagher will have to be traded. Again not until next summer but it'll need to happen

Lots of players coming off the books after next season. No need to trade anybody, unless they add other big contracts.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

So listening to 690 this morning and them taking how bad and pathetic the Ducks were last night and that their drafting hasn't gone their way in these past few seasons, it did cross my mind that despite them being freaking pathetic, Zegras was still able to put 2 consecutive 60+ seasons despite that!! This season injuries got in his way, but I was already in the get a deal done and I'm even more invested in a trade to acquire him now! I think a change of scenery would be great for him and he could definitely be a factor here in the long run!

 

[salbutera]

So listening to 690 this morning and them taking how bad and pathetic the Ducks were last night and that their drafting hasn't gone their way in these past few seasons, it did cross my mind that despite them being freaking pathetic, Zegras was still able to put 2 consecutive 60+ seasons despite that!! This season injuries got in his way, but I was already in the get a deal done and I'm even more invested in a trade to acquire him now! I think a change of scenery would be great for him and he could definitely be a factor here in the long run!

Need to always keep in mind Zegras always sacrifices two way play for offense - doesn’t mean like Caufield he can’t be taught defensive responsibility over time but his stats need to be viewed through an offense & only offense prism

 

[Hannibal]

Go get Zegras. Our guys need support from a second line.

 

[sampollock]

Go get Zegras. Our guys need support from a second line.

need scoring for sure. Dach can't do it alone next year

 

[salbutera]

Food for thought:

I expect Hutson to make next seasons team, which should translate into a more consistent PP production / uptick in offense but w more weakness at 5-on-5 Dzone coverage

 

[Kosseca]

Go get Zegras. Our guys need support from a second line.

I get the idea of getting help for the second line, but there is zero urgency to do that. Recent play of the 1st line is fun and give insight into what the line up can look line next year, but unless the deal is too good to be true, wouldn't you want to wait for making deal around the draft to better know what is available from all teams, what rank you'll pick and what you think you can get at that rank?

Food for thought:

I expect Hutson to make next seasons team, which should translate into a more consistent PP production / uptick in offense but w more weakness at 5-on-5 Dzone coverage

You expect that based on what? I think that it is more reasonable to anticipate he'll play in Laval next year, at least for a few months then in MTL.

 

[Deus ex machina]

What would you trade to get Gallagher off the books?

I wouldn't give up any assets. At least not now.

Like i said before, the only opportunity i see is to maybe trade him to the Oilers this summer.
Take on Jack Campbell's contract now in return. Save Oilers 3.85M of cap space to help them make the moves they want.

 

[salbutera]

You expect that based on what? I think that it is more reasonable to anticipate he'll play in Laval next year, at least for a few months then in MTL.

If BU bows out early in Final Four (or even if they don’t), I expect Hutson will be signed and finish season w Habs - essentially a tryout.

Unless he’s completely overwhelmed it’ll be a precursor to being part of the D next season - HuGo will value his ability to run the Habs PP over his defensive shortcomings

 

[SwiftyHab]

So listening to 690 this morning and them taking how bad and pathetic the Ducks were last night and that their drafting hasn't gone their way in these past few seasons, it did cross my mind that despite them being freaking pathetic, Zegras was still able to put 2 consecutive 60+ seasons despite that!! This season injuries got in his way, but I was already in the get a deal done and I'm even more invested in a trade to acquire him now! I think a change of scenery would be great for him and he could definitely be a factor here in the long run!

Not sure how drafting hasnt gone their way. Their talent pool is amazing. Almost every player in Anaheim would do better with a change of scenary.

 

[Benstheman]

So listening to 690 this morning and them taking how bad and pathetic the Ducks were last night and that their drafting hasn't gone their way in these past few seasons, it did cross my mind that despite them being freaking pathetic, Zegras was still able to put 2 consecutive 60+ seasons despite that!! This season injuries got in his way, but I was already in the get a deal done and I'm even more invested in a trade to acquire him now! I think a change of scenery would be great for him and he could definitely be a factor here in the long run!

IMO, KH needs to keep the 2024 1st pick and dangle Habs 2025 1st to get a guy like Zegras or any other young top 6 forward this summer.

A package of :

-Habs 2025 1st (top 5 protected)
-Winnipeg's 2024 1st
-1 of Barron/Harris

Should be really attractive to a team like Anaheim who's in the process of rebuilding.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Matheson 8th most productive D since we acquired him. Playing 25min/night against team top lines. He is untouchable and he aint going anywhere.

Hutson is a record breaking dman, totally different beast than Farrell who was in the USHL at the same stage where Hutson broke NCAA record. I do agree that proof will need to be made tho.

We will see.

I think Struble/Xhekaj are the valuable odd man out on D. (Kovacevic, Barron, Harris and the rest i don't consider holds much value.)

NO one is untouchable. But unless there's a ridiculous offer for Matheson out there, there's no reason to move him. He's 10th in D scoring, makes under 5 mil a year for the next two seasons and he's a local guy who is popular in the room. Yeah, he's not a 1D and may not even be an ideal 2D, but unless you get a Chychrun-like return, there's no reason to move him.

I also don't get why people are underrating Barron so much. He's a RD and he's young. People complain about his D game, but Faber, Sanderson and Guhle are the only D from his draft class that are defending at an NHL level right now. Guys like Drysdale, Schneider, Kaiser, Lohrei and Phillips are bad too and no one else has gotten more than a cup of coffee.

 

[Saundies]

I get the idea of getting help for the second line, but there is zero urgency to do that. Recent play of the 1st line is fun and give insight into what the line up can look line next year, but unless the deal is too good to be true, wouldn't you want to wait for making deal around the draft to better know what is available from all teams, what rank you'll pick and what you think you can get at that rank?



You expect that based on what? I think that it is more reasonable to anticipate he'll play in Laval next year, at least for a few months then in MTL.

The only urgency is that, if Zegras is available, we're probably not the only interested team. There's no urgency on the Habs end in terms of "we need this player in our lineup ASAP" but if a deal can happen sooner rather than later then hey, why not?