HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Whalers Fan]

We can ditch Allen in the summer at 50% even if we only get a 7th rounder in return.

If the best the team can get with retention is a 7th rounder, I wouldn't bother. The retention slot alone is more valuable than a 7th rounder.

I know that Hughes is trying to create a culture where vets are treated with respect, but at some point you just have to move on. I would waive Allen before wasting a retention slot for nothing. You can always work something out with him where he doesn't have to report to Laval if not claimed.

 

[HuGort]

Habs trade Savard for a first. Throw ton of money at Tanev this off season. He be good for our young defense

 

[NobleSix]

Basu and Godin say Zegras at 6th overall pick nah - but if Habs pick around 10 they'd do it.
Also suggest that they aren't sure he is even the type of player Hughes would want.

He definetly doesn't fit the mold of the kind of player that Hughes has looked at in the past, but I'd think the interest is there. He puts up points and if Suzuki, Caufield, and Slaf are going to be a unit, then Dach needs a scoring threat to help him out on his own line.

I don't think I'd trade a top 7 pick for Zegras, depending on how the pecking order shakes out on draft day, but if Celibrini (lock to be gone), Lindstrom, and Demidov are gone by the time we pick, I'd at least strongly consider it.

 

[ML16]

If the best the team can get with retention is a 7th rounder, I wouldn't bother. The retention slot alone is more valuable than a 7th rounder.

I know that Hughes is trying to create a culture where vets are treated with respect, but at some point you just have to move on. I would waive Allen before wasting a retention slot for nothing. You can always work something out with him where he doesn't have to report to Laval if not claimed.

Good point. Next year’s 2 retention slots should in principe be dedicated to Savard and Dvorak; a 1.75M defensive D and 2M 3c could fetch some interesting assets @ TDL to prepare for the 2025-2026 season.

 

[CAUFIELD]

Good point. Next year’s 2 retention slots should in principe be dedicated to Savard and Dvorak; a 1.75M defensive D and 2M 3c could fetch some interesting assets @ TDL to prepare for the 2025-2026 season.

Savard yes

Dvorak I’m not sure he is worth much . He’s so slow . He might be worth a 2nd from a contender at next Tdl at 50% retained , which is not much (late 2nd).

 

[Whalers Fan]

Savard yes

Dvorak I’m not sure he is worth much . He’s so slow . He might be worth a 2nd from a contender at next Tdl at 50% retained , which is not much (late 2nd).

It's still a lot better than what Allen will fetch with retention.

 

[RationalExpectations]

It's still a lot better than what Allen will fetch with retention.

Why not just waive him at this point ?

 

[Tuggy]

Why not just waive him at this point ?

I don't think that's out of the question.

Still some time before the deadline but if HuGo can't find a deal for him, then I could see that being an option they look at.

 

[CAUFIELD]

It's still a lot better than what Allen will fetch with retention.

It might be brighter to trade Allen at 50% to fix our goalie carrousel , than waiting another year in that situation only to gain a late 2nd rounder .

It would be benificial for Monty and Primeau , which could be more valuable than the pick

 

[Andy]

Maybe I am dense, but I'm not sure why the three goalie rotation bothers fans.

Primeau and Allen aren't really playing that well, and the more they play, the less the habs have a chance of Montembeault stealing games.

It's not like the three goalie rotation is preventing any other goalie from getting time or taking a roster spot from a deserving rookie at the player position.

I feel like it's just one of things we're complaining about for the sake of finding something to complain about.

 

[Benstheman]

It might be brighter to trade Allen at 50% to fix our goalie carrousel , than waiting another year in that situation only to gain a late 2nd rounder .

It would be benificial for Monty and Primeau , which could be more valuable than the pick

Or just sit him until his contract is over.

 

[sampollock]

with Allen not playing much is not helping him either. sitting on the bench with 3 goalies is starting to show

 

[B1g B1rd]

Maybe I am dense, but I'm not sure why the three goalie rotation bothers fans.

Primeau and Allen aren't really playing that well, and the more they play, the less the habs have a chance of Montembeault stealing games.

It's not like the three goalie rotation is preventing any other goalie from getting time or taking a roster spot from a deserving rookie at the player position.

I feel like it's just one of things we're complaining about for the sake of finding something to complain about.

I feel the same. Neither Allen or Primeau are future imo. We have a pretty good #1 in Montembault for a couple years. Honestly, who cares about the rest.

I agree not to use a retention on Allen if the best we can get for him is a 6 or 7th rd pick. I also agree not to waive him for image reasons. Let him finish his contract... Maybe next year we could get something valuable for him at the TDL.

As for Primeau, he's the one I would eventually trade even if we dont get much for him. In 25-26, either Fowler is ready or we can pick a #2 out of a trade or UFA.

No big deal.

 

[Andy]

I feel the same. Neither Allen or Primeau are future imo. We have a pretty good #1 in Montembault for a couple years. Honestly, who cares about the rest.

I agree not to use a retention on Allen if the best we can get for him is a 6 or 7th rd pick. I also agree not to waive him for image reasons. Let him finish his contract... Maybe next year we could get something valuable for him at the TDL.

As for Primeau, he's the one I would eventually trade even if we dont get much for him. In 25-26, either Fowler is ready or we can pick a #2 out of a trade or UFA.

No big deal in my pov.

Exactly. I think folks are just more antsy for a trade for the sake of a trade. Allen and Primeau don't have any meaningful value. No reason to devote so much mental energy for goalies that won't return anything significant.

 

[Benstheman]

Looks like Holloway might be disponible in Edmonton.

They are after Guentzel. If i werre them, i would invest in a solid defensive D.

 

[Wats]

Savard yes

Dvorak I’m not sure he is worth much . He’s so slow . He might be worth a 2nd from a contender at next Tdl at 50% retained , which is not much (late 2nd).

Dvorak we can only hope he has a career year next season and gets dealt at deadline.

 

[vokiel]

Dvorak we can only hope he has a career year next season and gets dealt at deadline.

Or he can hope for a buyout...

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Dvorak we can only hope he has a career year next season and gets dealt at deadline.

Basu said from talking to some scouts, Dvorak is not an interesting name at all.

 

[sampollock]

Basu said from talking to some scouts, Dvorak is not an interesting name at all.

haha
for sure, we are fans are not interested either

 

[Vachon23]

Allen for Ryan Johansen as a base

 

[ML16]

It might be brighter to trade Allen at 50% to fix our goalie carrousel , than waiting another year in that situation only to gain a late 2nd rounder .

It would be benificial for Monty and Primeau , which could be more valuable than the pick

If Allen isn’t traded this TDL and cannot find any takers this offseason, there's always the buyout option to avoid repeating the G caroussel next year. It would cost around2M in 2024-2025 and less than 1M in 2025-2026

 

[teamfirst]

I feel the same. Neither Allen or Primeau are future imo. We have a pretty good #1 in Montembault for a couple years. Honestly, who cares about the rest.

I agree not to use a retention on Allen if the best we can get for him is a 6 or 7th rd pick. I also agree not to waive him for image reasons. Let him finish his contract... Maybe next year we could get something valuable for him at the TDL.

As for Primeau, he's the one I would eventually trade even if we dont get much for him. In 25-26, either Fowler is ready or we can pick a #2 out of a trade or UFA.

No big deal.

You're right about Allen but 24 years old is pretty young for a goalie, they clearly messed up there, wasted a complete season of devlopment for Primeau like him or not

 

[ML16]

Savard yes

Dvorak I’m not sure he is worth much . He’s so slow . He might be worth a 2nd from a contender at next Tdl at 50% retained , which is not much (late 2nd).

Well a late 2nd is likely more than Allen can fetch in any circumstances; and with Dvorak in a contract year, hopefully he has a good 1st half - and stays healthy!

 

[WeThreeKings]

If Allen isn’t traded this TDL and cannot find any takers this offseason, there's always the buyout option to avoid repeating the G caroussel next year. It would cost around2M in 2024-2025 and less than 1M in 2025-2026

I'm sure they'll find a taker with one year left on his contract.. UFA goalies who are mid cost about the same.

 

[417]

Maybe I am dense, but I'm not sure why the three goalie rotation bothers fans.

Primeau and Allen aren't really playing that well, and the more they play, the less the habs have a chance of Montembeault stealing games.

It's not like the three goalie rotation is preventing any other goalie from getting time or taking a roster spot from a deserving rookie at the player position.

I feel like it's just one of things we're complaining about for the sake of finding something to complain about.

Well Slafkovsky is playing too well...Xhekaj drama didn't take.

Gotta complain about something.