HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Jaynki]

Zegras is only worth .70 cents on the dollar. Coming off a broken foot. Having a bad season after just signing a lucrative contract.

Zegras is worth what a teams that wants him will pay the most for him and that has to be congruent with what Anaheim wants.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Any chance the young player Hughes targets with a package of picks, etc. is Kent Johnson?

He shoudn't be avaialble but you never know with Kekalainen

 

[Miller Time]

The only way i am good with a Zegras trade is in a quantity trade;

Winnipeg 1st round pick + a 2nd round pick + Barron or Harris or Kovacevic + Anderson or Dvorak

No quality asset going the other way outside of the Winnipeg pick.

Indeed
1st, Strubble, Dvorak or Anderson... Add pens 2nd if it takes that, not much more.

If he does get moved elsewhere, will be interesting to see if it's at bigger return value than that. I doubt it, though I do think some team may offer a better fit in a similar youngish top 6 fwd or a higher end fwd winger prospect that Verbeek prefers for his team needs even if the value is a bit less than the package we'd offer

 

[26Mats]

Armia sucks too much to he traded with a year left unless it's another shitty player coming back with similar term and cost. Seeing someone different would be worth it imo.

Pearson is terrible and even at 50% might not be worth much.

Savard at 50% is worth a lot, so it will be interesting to see if a team goes after him.

Allen isn't worth his contract and isn't worth retaining on. Only team that might make a deal for him are the Devils, but not sure they'd be interested, unless they've lost faith in Vanecek and it's a 1 for 1 with a little sweetener for the Habs, but don't see that.


Habs are likely to be quiet this deadline again. They don't have a whole lot worth while that they'd be willing to move.

I'd do Savard at 50% retained.

Then in the summer one of Armia or Allen, 50% retained.

 

[Miller Time]

Allen
Savard
Pearson
Armia

Those are the players I hope the Habs trade at the deadline

I'd swap Armia for Anderson... And add an asterisk to Savard (*only at a big return, 1st++).

I think Armia's been very good for us this year as a bottom 6 winger. He's been better than anyone we have on contract through next year, and I'm not sure that we'd find a UFA upgrade that will cost less (especially given the cap increase). Dumping Anderson would be a better net benefit imo

 

[The Great Weal]

Anaheim won't be trading Zegras for cheap and I'm not keen on giving up one of our best prospects our our 1st for him. I think I'd prefer Laine if anything who should be way cheaper.

 

[Whalers Fan]

I'd do Savard at 50% retained.

Then in the summer one of Armia or Allen, 50% retained.

Dvorak may return more at 50% than Armia or Allen.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Indeed
1st, Strubble, Dvorak or Anderson... Add pens 2nd if it takes that, not much more.

If he does get moved elsewhere, will be interesting to see if it's at bigger return value than that. I doubt it, though I do think some team may offer a better fit in a similar youngish top 6 fwd or a higher end fwd winger prospect that Verbeek prefers for his team needs even if the value is a bit less than the package we'd offer

That's too much.
Struble is already a top 4 D. He's a keeper.

 

[eklund the clown]

Like the Dubois proposals last summer, it will be outbid. No way we get Zegras for that.

But, we could probably get Dubois for that now

You could get Dubois for absolutely nothing

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Markstrom to NJ would be great in a Toronto misses scenario.

Maybe the Habs can take on a cap dump

I see no reason why Calgary would trade Markstrom. Those rumors just seem silly to me. They're not going to tank.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Guhle at RHD? How long has this been going on for?

 

[SwiftyHab]

Not for us as habs fans but just as fans of the game. The Pens and Capitals are going nowhere but wouldnt it be cool if the Caps did Ovy a solid and sent him to go play with Sid for the last couple of years he has left. Go try and win a cup together and get that Goal record!

 

[Miller Time]

That's too much.
Struble is already a top 4 D. He's a keeper.

I like Stubble, but I don't know that I'd call him a "keeper".

We'll need to move some of our young D at some point, especially LD. Guhle is a lock, & Hutson is the most unique talent we have. Btw X & Strubble, I'd rather keep X & his unique abilities for now even if I think Strubble is slightly better right now.

Harris doesn't likely move the needle. I suppose Barron might work but I think he still has a higher ceiling than Strubble & conversely, Verbeek may value Strubble more...

If we can offer net "less" and close the deal, great! But you gotta give to get, that package is about as high as I'd be willing to go.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Zegras may turn out to be a great player but he’s making 5.5 and they’d want a boatload for him.

I’d prefer we just draft another forward.

 

[Miller Time]

Not for us as habs fans but just as fans of the game. The Pens and Capitals are going nowhere but wouldnt it be cool if the Caps did Ovy a solid and sent him to go play with Sid for the last couple of years he has left. Go try and win a cup together and get that Goal record!

That would be pretty cool...

 

[eklund the clown]

For all the Dubois lovers.

Pierre-Luc Dubois Player Page | TSN

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Goals 237th assists 318th points 232th shots on goal 202th S% 216 TOI 405th.Doesn't that just about say it all oh and then there is that small contract he signed for 8 years and a lot here still want this guy .

 

[Kwikwi]

Real question. You think Tampa would consider swapping Sergachev for Matheson + Hutson (+?)

They get a current replacement and the future one down the road and they get cap space.

We get a better all around player that produces at Matheson’s pace and fits our window better.

I think they wouldn’t do it, but Serge’s injury is a big one, right at the beginning of a 8 year contract, so I think his value is down a bit.

Maybe I’m way off on value

Phew Sergachev is so overated and overpaid. Its because we had him we think of him as a goat.
Hedman was the real deal and he has fallen (normal) and now Sergachev cant carry the team

 

[26Mats]

You could get Dubois for absolutely nothing

I don't think LA is there yet. But maybe.

 

[sampollock]

We won't trade for Zegras, so it's moot.

What happens if they do trade for him?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What happens if they do trade for him?

What happens if the moon was our hair brush

 

[le_sean]

No one is going to want Allen, put those proposals to bed.

 

[sampollock]

What happens if the moon was our hair brush

We shall see...

 

[vokiel]

Zegras may turn out to be a great player but he’s making 5.5 and they’d want a boatload for him.

I’d prefer we just draft another forward.

Specially if they want the top 10 pick, that's a no go for Zegras. For Winnipeg's pick though...

 

[EveryDay]

No one is going to want Allen, put those proposals to bed.

Agreed, he should be on waivers.

 

[HuGort]

Real question. You think Tampa would consider swapping Sergachev for Matheson + Hutson (+?)

They get a current replacement and the future one down the road and they get cap space.

We get a better all around player that produces at Matheson’s pace and fits our window better.

I think they wouldn’t do it, but Serge’s injury is a big one, right at the beginning of a 8 year contract, so I think his value is down a bit.

Maybe I’m way off on value

That's too much of a gamble. I wouldn't even do Matheson even up.

Sergechev coming off severe injury with massive contract. Matheson would bring us a first pick and good prospect.