HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Miller Time]

To Mtl
Ceci, 1st '24 (top 5 protected), conditional '25 2nd (if oilers make playoffs &/or they re-sign Monty)

To Edm
Kovacevic, Monty

Oilers get goaltending upgrade and perhaps beneficial RD swap while creating ~1.5M in cap space this year (& offload Ceci's '24-25 3.25M cap hit).

Habs add 1st & potential 2nd for Monty/Kovy & taking on Ceci's extra year (who may be a decent short term fit with Barron/Savard for next year at RD & if not can probably be moved relatively easily this summer)

 

[Sterling Archer]

To Mtl
Ceci, 1st '24 (top 5 protected), conditional '25 2nd (if oilers make playoffs &/or they re-sign Monty)

To Edm
Kovacevic, Monty

Oilers get goaltending upgrade and perhaps beneficial RD swap while creating ~1.5M in cap space this year (& offload Ceci's '24-25 3.25M cap hit).

Habs add 1st & potential 2nd for Monty/Kovy & taking on Ceci's extra year (who may be a decent short term fit with Barron/Savard for next year at RD & if not can probably be moved relatively easily this summer)

I want MORE.

 

[Miller Time]

Feels like the time is ripe for a Chicago deal...

Hall out for season.
Perry dealing with an issue
Foligno & AA dealing with injuries.

To Chi
Anderson

To Mtl
'25 2nd, conditional '26 2nd (if Anderson plays 65+ games or scores 25+ goals in '24-'25)

I want MORE.

For which part?

Monty or Kovacevic?
(Or for taking on Ceci's contract?)

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The Oilers gave up Hutson for Kulak and then gave him $11,000,000 lmfao

Bourgault/Holloway numbers are abysmal Mysak and Pezzeta produced more so far

They gave up a pick for him. What that pick is used for is a different matter.


Just like people saying the Habs gave up Debrincat for Shaw. They gave up the pick that Chicago used to get him

 

[Runner77]

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

 

[The Great Weal]

I wonder if 1st+Ceci+Holloway for Kovacevic+Monty makes sense.

 

[morhilane]

https://x.com/NHL_Watcher/status/1727809930462110177?s=20

Oilers are looking at internal options at the goalie position including bringing Campbell back up.

What a shit show that is. If I owned this team I would fire Holland on the spot.

They won't do anything, they want a cheap bargain and to not have to pay anything to dump cap.

In other words, they want Celebrini!!!!

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

...

Cup Experience
Physical/Though
Positive Locker Room presence

Do they want Savard???

 

[Deus ex machina]

Occasionally, you can tell when a team is feeding an insider PR. Rarely, but sometimes.

I refuse to believe that anyone, including Johnston, really believes that the Oilers are seriously considering that a potential fix is calling up the guy they just sent to the AHL and who has a 0.873 save percentage in both the NHL and AHL this season, just because he had one shutout. That's the quality of goaltending Laval is getting from Dobes and Mann.

Clearly.

They want to make it seem like they have internal options and not that desperate in order to keep some leverage in trade negotiations.
Just ridiculous. Nobody is buying it.

 

[jrom]

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

made me think of a “The Wire” scene with this wishful thinking (our 1st rd pick is off the table)

 

[Runner77]

They won't do anything, they want a cheap bargain and to not have to pay anything to dump cap.

In other words, they want Celebrini!!!!


Cup Experience
Physical/Though
Positive Locker Room presence

Do they want Savard???

Pearson may fill the bill although maybe not fully tip the scales on factor 2.

Allen has factors 1 and 3.

They could check all of the boxes by getting multiple players in a deal with the Habs.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Feels like the time is ripe for a Chicago deal...

Hall out for season.
Perry dealing with an issue
Foligno & AA dealing with injuries.

To Chi
Anderson

To Mtl
'25 2nd, conditional '26 2nd (if Anderson plays 65+ games or scores 25+ goals in '24-'25)


For which part?

Monty or Kovacevic?
(Or for taking on Ceci's contract?)

The whole package. It’s not enough of a return to get a 1st that could end up in the high 20’s or worse if Edmonton gets their heads out of their ass. Monty would only help them get better and Habs get a worse pick. But adding Kovy and taking Ceci makes the deal worse. I’d go Monty for a 1st straight up but swapping Kovy for Ceci and eating all that cash for Edmonton would need a sweetener for me. Whether you it’s a Halloway/another prospect Habs like or more picks, like two 2nds.

 

[Tyson]

Oops, misread your post — you meant what other suitors are available to dispatch a goalie. If Holland is willing to put a 1st rounder on the table and its protection is not too stringent, several are sure to come forward.

You need an inexpensive goalie who can play that is not intimidated by playing in fanatical Canadian markets, there aren't many on the trade block that fit that description.

 

[Runner77]

You need an inexpensive goalie who can play that is not intimidated by playing in fanatical Canadian markets, there aren't many on the trade block that fit that description.

Or if there are, that don’t have a no trade clause that includes Canada’s 2nd most exciting destination.

 

[Tyson]

Or if there are, that don’t have a no trade clause that includes Canada’s 2nd most exciting destination.

Didn't even consider that. Great point

 

[Habs]

To Mtl
Ceci, 1st '24 (top 5 protected), conditional '25 2nd (if oilers make playoffs &/or they re-sign Monty)

To Edm
Kovacevic, Monty

Oilers get goaltending upgrade and perhaps beneficial RD swap while creating ~1.5M in cap space this year (& offload Ceci's '24-25 3.25M cap hit).

Habs add 1st & potential 2nd for Monty/Kovy & taking on Ceci's extra year (who may be a decent short term fit with Barron/Savard for next year at RD & if not can probably be moved relatively easily this summer)

Ceci is so bad, SO BAD.

 

[Runner77]

Didn't even consider that. Great point

Wouldn’t be surprised if The Peg and Edmonotone rank 1-2 in most players’ no-trade clauses.

 

[Habs]

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

Insiders who have never played hockey or been in management, should always have their hockey opinions be discarded, unless its Bobby Mack.

 

[Andy]

Gallagher
Monty


For
1st unprotected
2nd
Campbell 1 million retained (at least the buyout is better than Gallagher’s)
Cap dump (Foegle or Ceci)

 

[Heffyhoof]

What's the hope in Edmonton with no 1sts on the table? Make perimeter level improvements, dancing around the cap while waiting for the cap raise next year? At some point you have to stop flushing seasons down the toilet, though this one seems lost already.

 

[Runner77]

Insiders who have never played hockey or been in management, should always have their hockey opinions be discarded, unless it’s Bobby Mack.

We chew them and spit them out in this thread cause most of the time, their asses are doing the talking. They don’t know all that much more than we do.

 

[Tyson]

What's the hope in Edmonton with no 1sts on the table? Make perimeter level improvements, dancing around the cap while waiting for the cap raise next year? At some point you have to stop flushing seasons down the toilet, though this one seems lost already.

On occasion teams do turn it around like St. Louis did in Jan 2019. I think they had the worst record and went on to win the cup. Edmonton has not a day to waste.

 

[McGees]

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

Yes we all want your 2nd round picks and crappy prospects.
*eye roll emoji
*poop emoji
*laugh with tear emoji
*I should find better things to do with my time than follow the GM of another team make decisions that runs his franchise into the ground emoji

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The Oilers are pulling the same thing that Bergevin pulled when Price went down when we were 1st. It's an incredibly stupid strategy, even moreso for them. Bite the bullet and get something done. Every game you let this continue is just stabbing your season.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

What’s this in-cider guy saying? First he claims that all options should be considered outside of the two main assets but then he leaves first rounders out from the list.

It begins with a first rounder and not too heavily protected. That or Holland can enjoy his free fall.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

If they continue losing for the next 10 games they are toast.They don't have 10 games.

At this point, they're already looking at something like winning 2 out of every 3 game to reach 95 points. They might already be toast.