HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[The Great Weal]

It potentially means he's not a part of the long-term plans - for better or worse. Great if he sucks and we can move on, a bit worrisome if he performs and we have to try and re-sign him (which is not entirely a bad thing given that it means he performed well). The nice part is that we'll still likely have a lot of cap space when both Dach (RFA) and Laine (UFA) are talking extension. If we're a competitive team with cap space and he likes it here, we'd just need to be confident in what we've built. I think there's going to be a pretty small market for him given the contract and injury situation.

I also think the Jackets should trade him in the off season and attempt to get his value back up for the rest of the season. They run the risk of him entering Monahan/pure cap-dump territory, but it might also mean a much bigger payout. Might also work better for MTL given our aspirations to reach bottom-5.

I just don’t see the point of wasting assets if you’re not envisioning him as part of the future. You want him to become that consistent 40 goal guy in the 6’5 frame. I’m not too worried about how much he would cost (in fact he will likely be cheaper than what he currently makes), it’s moreso that he wouldn’t want to be here. I know we aren’t the Sens level pathetic but Chychrun wants out despite looking like he might stay. Sens won’t be getting the same value as they paid if they flip him so they just lost assets. With Laine and his poor effort consistency in a hot market, I could see him wanting out unless we are a lock for the playoffs before he needs a new contract.

I don’t think it will ever become a Monahan/cap dump scenario as they won’t be desperate to get rid of him by adding assets. Flames did it so they can sign Kadri and be competitive, Jackets won’t be competitive.

 

[Heffyhoof]

As Kings celebrate Kopitar milestones, trade for Dubois looks worse by the day

The deal for Pierre-Luc Dubois could leave the franchise in an expensive hole it will struggle to get out of for years.

www.dailynews.com

Go away party pooper, we have a shiny new toy!!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Laine ain't this teams vibe.

 

[Canadienna]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

Also said he wouldn't be a fit as a 2C on a contender.

Probably both fair comments, but I feel like he's always down on Habs players.

 

[McGees]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

He only watches Leaf games.

 

[Canadienna]

He only watches Leaf games.

I do have to wonder how he'd be speaking if the Leafs were a selling team with Monahan on their roster.

Nobody is truly unbiased I guess.

 

[sampollock]

I would take a look at Laine
Liked him since draft Day
25 years old

 

[Egresch]

Honestly, I would prefer any of CBJ Russians Chinakhov, Voronkov, Marchenko over Laine. IMO, they all have untapped potential while Laine might be a guy on decline.

 

[Habs Icing]

He only watches Leaf games.

Are you sure? Cause I'll bet he doesn't even watch those. He's too busy looking in the mirror working on his hair.

 

[Guy Larose]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

Also said he wouldn't be a fit as a 2C on a contender.

Probably both fair comments, but I feel like he's always down on Habs players.

It's funny when they say stuff like that because it means he won't be wrong in the end. He's right whatever pick they get for him.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Pierre McGuire says on Tony's podcast, habs should not trade Mike Math but extend him.

I say trade him if Kent can get good trade back

While no player is sacrosanct, you trade away a player with Matheson's elite mobility at your team's peril.

 

[Runner77]

While no player is sacrosanct, you trade away a player with Matheson's elite mobility at your team's peril.

His focus also has elite mobility — it’ll go from 100 to zero and back, within seconds.

This is a guy you don’t want on first pairing or playing 27 mins + per game. He could be so much better if properly managed but on a team with so many young players, it’s clear that he won’t be properly deployed.

 

[LaP]

Pierre McGuire says on Tony's podcast, habs should not trade Mike Math but extend him.

I say trade him if Kent can get good trade back

Matheson has two years left. He can't be extended before summer 2025. Why talk about extending him now since we don't know what will happen until then. Matheson wont be traded until the last year of his contract.

Rutger McGroarty​

Wont happen. But if it does you take the offer and run as fast as you can to have the traded approved.

 

[c3z4r]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

Also said he wouldn't be a fit as a 2C on a contender.

Probably both fair comments, but I feel like he's always down on Habs players.

When was the last time, if ever, that Friedman has accurately called out a Habs trade?

 

[Adriatic]

Love adding talent but we can't forget about toughness. We're too soft and too nice up front. I would love to add a player or two than can play with some nastiness to spark the team at times.

 

[Ranger12]

Love adding talent but we can't forget about toughness. We're too soft and too nice up front. I would love to add a player or two than can play with some nastiness to spark the team at times.

Move Xhekaj to the wing like some have suggested.

The next Wendel Clark...lol

 

[BoneHutson]

Leonard is likely untouchable.

If you add Matheson to Monahan, I think theyd at least listen. They get a top 4 offensive dmen in his peak at cheap money and a 2-3 C that they can resign if they want

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If you add Matheson to Monahan, I think theyd at least listen. They get a top 4 offensive dmen in his peak at cheap money and a 2-3 C that they can resign if they want

No GM will be listening on trade offers that has them trading their recent top 10 pick for ~30 year old players.

 

[Milhouse40]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

Also said he wouldn't be a fit as a 2C on a contender.

Probably both fair comments, but I feel like he's always down on Habs players.

Monahan is 100% worth a 1st if he's healthy and play.....but his multiple long injuries in each of the last couple of year is still a red flag for every buying team.

Because of that, I think a conditional 1st round pick is the best outcome here
If he stay healthy it's a 1st, if not it's a 2nd.

 

[eklund the clown]

The Kings would have to eat at least half of Dubois contract for 8 years just to get rid of him.I am not even sure i would take him at that price let alone give anything up to get him.He seems to be a lazy hard to please whiner wherever he goes.What would be any different here?Wasn't it said that Hugo never tried to acquire him in the 1st place.?

 

[vokiel]

If you add Matheson to Monahan, I think theyd at least listen. They get a top 4 offensive dmen in his peak at cheap money and a 2-3 C that they can resign if they want

It doesn't matter, Leonard is an unsigned NCAA prospect with lower than a year in the Caps corp structure. No trades involving him should happen, unless he goes crazy.

We passed for Rainmaker... That's all..

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Are you sure? Cause I'll bet he doesn't even watch those. He's too busy looking in the mirror working on his hair.

It looks like that after he has worked on it?????????////

It doesn't matter, Leonard is an unsigned NCAA prospect with lower than a year in the Caps corp structure. No trades involving him should happen, unless he goes crazy.

We passed for Rainmaker... That's all..

Well Leonard doesn't look that good. reinbacher should be the better choice.

Edit: Leonard did nothing at the beginning of the season. He has picked it up though.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Friedman saying on 32T that Monahan's "baseline" value is lower than a 1st, but a bidding war or team looking to extend could change things.

Also said he wouldn't be a fit as a 2C on a contender.

Probably both fair comments, but I feel like he's always down on Habs players.

If Monahan was a Leaf, starting price would be a top 10 pick, a previous top 10 pick and the trading GMs first born child, to start with.

 

[Miller Time]

No GM will be listening on trade offers that has them trading their recent top 10 pick for ~30 year old players.

Where's George McPhee when you need him!

No GM will be listening on trade offers that has them trading their recent top 10 pick for ~30 year old players.

Where's George McPwhen you need him!

 

[sampollock]

Honestly, I would prefer any of CBJ Russians Chinakhov, Voronkov, Marchenko over Laine. IMO, they all have untapped potential while Laine might be a guy on decline.

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