HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[WeThreeKings]

Does Toronto have the money to sign him? He is going to ask for 10m+ with the season he is having.

They'll sign him and continue to field peewee goaltending and defense and 3/4 lines.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Does Toronto have the money to sign him? He is going to ask for 10m+ with the season he is having.

They can and they will

 

[JRichard]

You just said 2 weeks on the main board, make up your mind lol

Must be typos: 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks and 3rd rounder instead of 1st…

 

[Sterling Archer]

He discussed it on his podcast and on HNIC probably three weeks back.

I didn't see that. Thanks.

 

[Mrb1p]

Please Kent, don't sign Nylander for 10m+. We all know how badly signing a player in his late 20 is a bad idea. Just looking at Huberdeau, Kadri and Gaudreau contract.

We is going to have a great season and try to sign a 10m+ in the summer.

What about Marian Hossa? Joe Pavelski? Pietrangelo? Kessel?

 

[Miller Time]

Trading for his rights would likely be a waste of time. Nylanders are all about the cash. He will go to UFA to make sure he gets the most he can possibly get (unless they offer 14-15 mil).

unless i'm mistaken, i think that trading for the rights allows for the habs to add the extra year to the offer, so if your assessment of "the nylanders" is correct, then trading for his rights before July 1st is exactly what a team should do if they are serious about landing him and not concerned with giving him the UFA premium that will be necessary to sign him.

not sure i'd want to go 8 years at UFA premium on Nylander, but if they are sold on him being elite for the next 5+ years, then i could see us being a bidder

 

[26Mats]

Does Toronto have the money to sign him? He is going to ask for 10m+ with the season he is having.

Everyone tells me I'm wrong about this, but my guess is they'll find a way to move Tavares...

 

[BergevinBurner]

I would absolutely look into Patrick Laine. 25 and if they could retain a bit he would be under Suzuki and Caufield.

I'd definitely be asking the price if Columbus considers shopping him. I have no clue what direction Columbus is intending to go now though, they're sort of in limbo.

Getting Laine would certainly help bolster our top 6 though. We'd have a 2nd scoring threat and then we'd have the option to run Suzuki/Laine on line 1 and Dach/Caufield on line 2 to spread out the size and scoring.

The only way I can see us landing him is if they're interested in futures though, if they're looking to retool and "fix" their team now then we probably have nothing that interests them.

 

[WeThreeKings]

No interest in Laine.

Kent Johnson is the target.

 

[gusfring]

No interest in Laine.

Kent Johnson is the target.

Johnson isn't available. Why would he be? You want to trade Guhle+ for him?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Johnson isn't available. Why would he be? You want to trade Guhle+ for him?

They sent him to the AHL and treated him like shit when he was in the NHL. He will be available at some point if he isn't already.

 

[gusfring]

They sent him to the AHL and treated him like shit when he was in the NHL. He will be available at some point if he isn't already.

Well I guess everyone becomes available eventually. He's not available now, Laine might be.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He discussed it on his podcast and on HNIC probably three weeks back.

Never said it was imminent. Pretty sure he just said they were working on it

 

[WeThreeKings]

Well I guess everyone becomes available eventually. He's not available now, Laine might be.

He might be but he doesn't fit anything we are trying to do here, so the Habs won't be targeting Laine.

 

[Sorinth]

i see what you are saying... but i also think that GM "value" and fan "value" differ immensely and that generally speaking, GM value (or, more specifically, player evaluation) doesn't fluctuate nearly as quickly.

IF the habs pro scouting eval on KK was positive this summer, his 15-game struggles this year would do little to change their read on him imo. Hughes has already asserted that they approach player acquisition from the POV of their own value assessment (less concerned with market/perceived value than with their own evaluation when it comes to pulling the trigger).

that's what I mean when I suggest that the bigger variable in this theoretical trade would be the rangers level of interest in Monahan and their internal decision on KK, and the number of suitors for Monahan (which could open the door to other targeted prospects or pick collateral the habs are targeting)

Yes 15 games hasn't been long enough to drastically change the evaluation of Kakko, but for similar reasons Monahan's health is still going to weigh down his trade value because 18 games doesn't prove he can stay healthy and a Monahan that can't stay healthy is not worth very much at all.

 

[Miller Time]

Yes 15 games hasn't been long enough to drastically change the evaluation of Kakko, but for similar reasons Monahan's health is still going to weigh down his trade value because 18 games doesn't prove he can stay healthy and a Monahan that can't stay healthy is not worth very much at all.

indeed

Monahan for Kakko...

Wonder if that could have legs in January assuming Monahan stays healthy & Kakko continues to struggle?

 

[Garry Valk]

Never said it was imminent. Pretty sure he just said they were working on it

He said something along the lines of ‘I’d say it is imminent, but I just got burned on’ whatever it was, some other contract rumour. He said the same thing on tv. The inference was any day.

 

[Sorinth]

indeed

Wonder if that could have legs in January assuming Monahan stays healthy & Kakko continues to struggle?

You bolded the wrong portion, your trade proposal said Kakko would continue to struggle, yet in defending Kakko's trade value you say he has only struggled for 15 games.

 

[rahad]

What about Marian Hossa? Joe Pavelski? Pietrangelo? Kessel?

Do you want Kent to take this risk? Do you believe he is going to have a similar career as Pavelski or Hossa? He is having a career year on a offensive team like Toronto. He is going to be able to do the same with us?

Do you pay him 10m+ to bring him with Montreal?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Do you want Kent to take this risk? Do you believe he is going to have a similar career as Pavelski or Hossa? He is having a career year on a offensive team like Toronto. He is going to be able to do the same with us?

Do you pay him 10m+ to bring him with Montreal?

Wouldn't a lot of this depend on the draft?

If you win Macklin Celebrini, you probably think differently.. if you don't, Nylander may be the best bet to get a legitimate offensive star into your top 6. I don't have an issue paying Nylander, he's awesome.

 

[Mrb1p]

Do you want Kent to take this risk? Do you believe he is going to have a similar career as Pavelski or Hossa? He is having a career year on a offensive team like Toronto. He is going to be able to do the same with us?

Do you pay him 10m+ to bring him with Montreal?

The team is gonna need offensive fire power one way or the other.

 

[Kwikwi]

Gallgher on 1st line today, were good.

 

[HuGort]

Wouldn't a lot of this depend on the draft?

If you win Macklin Celebrini, you probably think differently.. if you don't, Nylander may be the best bet to get a legitimate offensive star into your top 6. I don't have an issue paying Nylander, he's awesome.

Nylander probably be great fit in Montreal. The pressure in Toronto don't seem to bother him. It will be a factor here considering the contract he will commander

 

[Tyson]

Man these rumors about the Oilers wanting one of our goalies are getting annoying.

 

[JuicyHam]

Man these rumors about the Oilers wanting one of our goalies are getting annoying.

I'm begging them to just make a deal. I promise none of these goalies are worth keeping long term if you're the Habs