HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[MarkovsKnee]

They don't have to put Price on LTIR at the beginning of the season.
They may never have the need to do it.

All the players people wanted to get rid of because they thought their salary would be a problem... Armia, Allen, Dvorak, Savard...
Looks like it will not be a problem after all. Unless they make significant changes.

The way things are going, maybe even Gallagher's contract won't be a problem.

Gallagher's contract won't be. We can afford him. And, you're right, we don't have to use LTIR next year if we don't want to. It would allow us to accrue cap space. Problem with Gallagher is he takes up a roster spot. MSL should be playing him on the 4th line too.

 

[kinghock]

With the same Friedman this week saying that LA is looking to add a goalie......there could be a path here for the Habs to do something. This would be a good return for one of our goalie,

I do not believe Kings will be interested in your team 3 main goalies in trade for Kaliev.

They are not much better if at all comparing to Talbot/Rittich/Portillo.

But I think one of your goalie prospects Jacob Fowler, Quentin Miller and Yevgeni Volokhin with addition of some draft pick will attract Kings interest.

 

[Yannman]

You get out of Anderson contract who is longer than Kuzmenko. It would make a ton of sense from a cap perspective, and in no way would the Canucks do this.

Anderson for 3 playoff runs without affecting your cap by too much …500k

 

[yianik]

Allen, Monahan, Savard , Pearson , and Anderson could all be moved. Coming back some picks, but prospects , young players high on the return list.

 

[Revansky]

Anderson for 3 playoff runs without affecting your cap by too much …500k

Kuzmenko has another year and then his cap is gone.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Gallagher's contract won't be. We can afford him. And, you're right, we don't have to use LTIR next year if we don't want to. It would allow us to accrue cap space. Problem with Gallagher is he takes up a roster spot. MSL should be playing him on the 4th line too.

I agree. Roster spot is the main problem.

Gallagher's status with the team makes him harder to healthy scratch or even put on the 4th line.
That's why a trade for Campbell would be ideal.

 

[Miller Time]

Snooping around the main & kings board, saw more than one Kings fan considering taking Gallagher in a deal to move PLD before his NTC kicks in...

As poor as he's shown this year, I'd find it hard to believe PLD can't salvage his game... He doesn't appear to be a guy who will be a leader, but at a 2M difference in a rising cap environment, that's gotta be explored if the Kings would actually consider it, no?

What's the extra we'd have to kick in to get it done, that's the question...

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I do not believe Kings will be interested in your team 3 main goalies in trade for Kaliev.

They are not much better if at all comparing to Talbot/Rittich/Portillo.

But I think one of your goalie prospects Jacob Fowler, Quentin Miller and Yevgeni Volokhin with addition of some draft pick will attract Kings interest.

Montembault is better than anything the Kings have but he isn't available. Not sure Kaliyev would get you more than Allen. Rittich is crap. Allen would be a better back up.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

At the 2019 draft his poor communicative skills, lazy were considered why he dropped.

Just in defensive zone. He's not lazy in offensive zone. He was a poor skater too. He's vastly upgraded his skating, and he's a guy who works the cycle well, and is skilled. He's average defensively.

He doesn't seem well liked by their coach and has been unable to make a permanent move up from 4th line. It's worth a shot depending on what we're trading for him.

 

[Deus ex machina]

I do not believe Kings will be interested in your team 3 main goalies in trade for Kaliev.

They are not much better if at all comparing to Talbot/Rittich/Portillo.

But I think one of your goalie prospects Jacob Fowler, Quentin Miller and Yevgeni Volokhin with addition of some draft pick will attract Kings interest.

I tend to agree with you about Allen. Not much of an upgrade on what they have.
I could see them going after Markstrom or Saros instead if they're really serious about making a run.

Do you think the Kings really want to get rid of Dubois before his NTC kicks in or is it just fan talk?
Getting rid of him might give them the cap space they need to get a real number 1 goalie.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I do not believe Kings will be interested in your team 3 main goalies in trade for Kaliev.

They are not much better if at all comparing to Talbot/Rittich/Portillo.

But I think one of your goalie prospects Jacob Fowler, Quentin Miller and Yevgeni Volokhin with addition of some draft pick will attract Kings interest.

Don't the Kings want to compete now? I'm not only taking about goalies, but players in general. Wouldn't they rather add to their current team instead of prospects who are years away?

 

[Deus ex machina]

Snooping around the main & kings board, saw more than one Kings fan considering taking Gallagher in a deal to move PLD before his NTC kicks in...

As poor as he's shown this year, I'd find it hard to believe PLD can't salvage his game... He doesn't appear to be a guy who will be a leader, but at a 2M difference in a rising cap environment, that's gotta be explored if the Kings would actually consider it, no?

What's the extra we'd have to kick in to get it done, that's the question...

I think the Kings will be patient with Dubois. He's just 25 and has proven to be better than that in the past.
But if they decide that his cap hit would be better spent elsewhere, i would listen if i'm Montreal.
But the Kings won't trade PLD for Gally. That's a bit ridiculous.

I'd offer Monahan (and a ton of cap space) for PLD.

 

[Deebs]

Snooping around the main & kings board, saw more than one Kings fan considering taking Gallagher in a deal to move PLD before his NTC kicks in...

As poor as he's shown this year, I'd find it hard to believe PLD can't salvage his game... He doesn't appear to be a guy who will be a leader, but at a 2M difference in a rising cap environment, that's gotta be explored if the Kings would actually consider it, no?

What's the extra we'd have to kick in to get it done, that's the question...

I had zero interest in him before and it's still the same today. Highly inconsistent player that seems to be a problem wherever he goes. I don't want to bring that into what seems like a very sound and cohesive environment.

 

[Runner77]

This should be interesting:



And he’ll be at the BC next Thursday. How about that for drama?

 

[Miller Time]

I had zero interest in him before and it's still the same today. Highly inconsistent player that seems to be a problem wherever he goes. I don't want to bring that into what seems like a very sound and cohesive environment.

I think the Kings will be patient with Dubois. He's just 25 and has proven to be better than that in the past.
But if they decide that his cap hit would be better spent elsewhere, i would listen if i'm Montreal.
But the Kings won't trade PLD for Gally. That's a bit ridiculous.

I'd offer Monahan (and a ton of cap space) for PLD.

& this the thing... Hard to get a sense of if/ how badly the Kings want to get out of PLDs deal, and if Hughes would even want him on that contract for free.

Gally is a known cap hole, but also reliable to be a good bet & team guy even with diminished role.

I don't think there's a PLD deal that makes sense for MTL at this point unless Gally & his contract are going the other way. I can see why some kings fans would entertain that (with considerable+), but not so sure Blake would.

Monahan, Allen 50%, Strubble, Avs 2nd
Gally

I'd start there & see what the counter looked like

 

[kinghock]

I tend to agree with you about Allen. Not much of an upgrade on what they have.
I could see them going after Markstrom or Saros instead if they're really serious about making a run.

Do you think the Kings really want to get rid of Dubois before his NTC kicks in or is it just fan talk?
Getting rid of him might give them the cap space they need to get a real number 1 goalie.

I do not believe Kings really want to get rid of Dubois before his NTC kicks in.

In my opinion it is just some Kings fans are very frustrated with the team recent play and choose Dubois to be the target of their displeasure.

 

[kinghock]

Don't the Kings want to compete now? I'm not only taking about goalies, but players in general. Wouldn't they rather add to their current team instead of prospects who are years away?

Yes, Kings want to compete now, but I do not believe they will trade their talent for mediocre old players. Their position of need are talented young goalies and really physical players for their fourth line.

P.S. I believe Kaliev value > fourth line players.

 

[Milhouse40]

I do not believe Kings will be interested in your team 3 main goalies in trade for Kaliev.

They are not much better if at all comparing to Talbot/Rittich/Portillo.

But I think one of your goalie prospects Jacob Fowler, Quentin Miller and Yevgeni Volokhin with addition of some draft pick will attract Kings interest.

Just going with the rumors here, but do agree that Allen or Primeau are not clear cut above what you already have.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Allen, Monahan, Savard , Pearson , and Anderson could all be moved. Coming back some picks, but prospects , young players high on the return list.

Don't get your hopes up. Monahan likely returns as a Hab. Pearson walks. Allen gets traded for a second or third pick + B type prospect. Anderson's contract is heavy. Savard brings a mentorship role and the Habs won't deal him.

 

[yianik]

Don't get your hopes up. Monahan likely returns as a Hab. Pearson walks. Allen gets traded for a second or third pick + B type prospect. Anderson's contract is heavy. Savard brings a mentorship role and the Habs won't deal him.

If we get that for Allen thats a grandslam. I'd be happy with futures just to get down to 2 goalies.

 

[Runner77]

If we get that for Allen thats a grandslam. I'd be happy with futures just to get down to 2 goalies.

If that’s straight up and the Habs not retaining, then yes.

 

[Yannman]

Kuzmenko has another year and then his cap is gone.

Yes wehave a year to evaluate kusmenko. vancouver is gonna be all in for the next couple of years with anderson, who shows up in the playoffs.

 

[Deus ex machina]

& this the thing... Hard to get a sense of if/ how badly the Kings want to get out of PLDs deal, and if Hughes would even want him on that contract for free.

Gally is a known cap hole, but also reliable to be a good bet & team guy even with diminished role.

I don't think there's a PLD deal that makes sense for MTL at this point unless Gally & his contract are going the other way. I can see why some kings fans would entertain that (with considerable+), but not so sure Blake would.

Monahan, Allen 50%, Strubble, Avs 2nd
Gally

I'd start there & see what the counter looked like

You're basically giving up assets to get rid of Gally.
I don't see Hugues doing that.

Gally is washed up. He can't keep up with the pace anymore. He's a giveaway machine and takes a lot of bad penalties as a result.
There's no way LA even consider making that trade. They'll want players that can help them win now.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Mittelstadt would be a good target to trade some d talent for

 

[IndigoJeans]

A ton… 1 extra 1st, 1 extra 2nd, both in 25. Chi has 5. Ariz 5. Phi 4.

A 3rd is the very best he could bring. The 1rst is the halucinogen version of the 4th or the 5th.
It's nice to beleive anything but tell me the last time you saw a licorn fly in the sky, for real, not in your substance trip.