HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Guy Larose]

I remember a lot of people not wanting Gauthier at the draft, what changed?

 

[Whitesnake]

Agreed that adding Zellwegger and Luneau and some other prospects will add to their talents. I said that in a previous post. The next step is to surround all that talent with the right guys. Because they will end up being like the Sabres.

I just can't get on board with the "that's how you rebuild" when referencing Ducks. Because I don't think a team drafting as high as Anaheim has for 5 consecutive drafts and still be a bottom feeder is the way to go.

But I also don't think that being a mid-team is the way to go either. True that Boston was a team that didn't wait to get top picks to be relevant. But Bruins are not the norm.

The only way you can get on top are with superior picks. Either by playing them. Or by trading their value. So do it the way you can, either by tanking, or by hiring superior scouting team that will find gems later on....I don't care. But you have to do it either way, if not you won't win in a salary cap era.

 

[dinodebino]

We would've all been ecstatic if we had come out of last year's draft with a forward of Gauthier's profile and ability at 5th ov.

Reinbacher for him is a no-brainer.

Why?

 

[sampollock]

GM's covet rh d men

 

[HomaridII]

Hughes about to go on L’Antichambre.

 

[Whitesnake]

I remember a lot of people not wanting Gauthier at the draft, what changed?

I know I didn't change. I predicted Gauthier to Flyers.

 

[dinodebino]

I remember a lot of people not wanting Gauthier at the draft, what changed?

World Juniors. Flash.

 

[Adam Michaels]

But I also don't think that being a mid-team is the way to go either. True that Boston was a team that didn't wait to get top picks to be relevant. But Bruins are not the norm.

The only way you can get on top are with superior picks. Either by playing them. Or by trading their value. So do it the way you can, either by tanking, or by hiring superior scouting team that will find gems later on....I don't care. But you have to do it either way, if not you won't win in a salary cap era.

Much like we'll see if Ducks will at some point turn the corner or end up another version of the Sabres, we'll see if the way Habs are doing it will result in them being a bubble team or actually progress into a playoff team and eventually a contender.

However, at this moment, I feel better the way the Habs are doing it than the way the Ducks are. Because Habs have been showing progress even though they are still missing two of their Top-6 players in Dach and Newhook and some of their more top prospects aren't there yet.

 

[McGees]

Tune in now

 

[HomaridII]

Hughes says it is possible that they finish the season with three goalies but it is not their objectives. They did not want to make a trade while Monty was unsigned.

Hughes has seen struble since he was 10 and has seen him play since he was 10. His performance has surprised him. The more he is able to maintain that performance with increased minutes and responsibility, the more options it gives the team. Those options are a positive for the organization.

 

[HomaridII]

He feels they will be ready in two years to strike in the ufa market but if something like panarin to New York shows up they will pull the trigger.

 

[The Great Weal]

We would've all been ecstatic if we had come out of last year's draft with a forward of Gauthier's profile and ability at 5th ov.

Reinbacher for him is a no-brainer.

Eh I wouldn't be. I'm not keen on drafting second liners with top 5 picks when we desperately need high end skill.

 

[Treb]

And so you mean we couldn’t top the Ducks offer ?

What would be your offer that tops Anaheim's offer?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We would've all been ecstatic if we had come out of last year's draft with a forward of Gauthier's profile and ability at 5th ov.

Reinbacher for him is a no-brainer.

No point in trading that pick for Gauthier when we could've just drafted Michkov

 

[WinterLion]

I like Gauthier, but I'm glad we didn't move Reinbacher for him.

 

[HomaridII]

Mailloux - big progression last 15 matches

Roy - can be keep up for an entire season? Spoke very highly of him

Hutson - wants him to focus on winning a national title

Reinbacher - difficult start to the season. Needs to understand what are his strengths, what is his role in the future. Last three games beat games for him of the season

 

[HomaridII]

Hughes said he hears all the time habs fan wanting the team to lose but he doesn’t agree. He had many clients who were young clients in that setting and if the team has no desire to win and no goals then the goals become individualistic and that long term is not good for the player.

 

[26Mats]

Hughes said he hears all the time habs fan wanting the team to lose but he doesn’t agree. He had many clients who were young clients in that setting and if the team has no desire to win and no goals then the goals become individualistic and that long term is not good for the player.

This

 

[Garry Valk]

And so you mean we couldn’t top the Ducks offer ?

And there we are.

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[Adam Michaels]

And there we are.

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I'm guessing Montreal wanted to swap picks with Philly in the process and Philly wanted the 5th and keep the 7th.

So Montreal would walk away with only Gauthier in that deal.

Just a guess on my part of course.

 

[HomaridII]

He was asked which teams he would never make a trade with that would help them. He said Boston and Toronto.

When can we say the word playoffs in Montreal:

Next year.

 

[sampollock]

He was asked which teams he would never make a trade with that would help them. He said Boston and Toronto.

When can we say the word playoffs in Montreal:

Next year.

Funny

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

I check daily hoping to see confirmed -Jake Allen traded

 

[WinterLion]

Looks like trade season is heating up...

Go Hughsy Go!

 

[NobleSix]

Hughes said he hears all the time habs fan wanting the team to lose but he doesn’t agree. He had many clients who were young clients in that setting and if the team has no desire to win and no goals then the goals become individualistic and that long term is not good for the player.

As someone who is fully in team rebuild, this is very much true. Building a losing culture is a real thing and something that can destroy a rebuild before it even finishes.

It's important to be really bad off the very start and slowly improve as the years go on. Don't think it's healthy to be a bottom feeder for 6 years straight. Ideally you draft your cornerstone players in the first couple of years of being terrible, and then draft your supporting core players in the subsequent years during the upward swing of improvement.

I think this is probably the last year we get a high pick, if we even get one this year. The rest of the rebuild will come through the development of the prospects we already have, trades for young players (Dach, Newhook type trades), and dipping into the UFA market to fill out the missing pieces.