HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Miller Time]

Good news is how Monahan has managed to stay healthy to this point (made it farther than last season and counting).

Less good news is how his offensive production has slowed down since about mid-November and more recently, only one goal in his last 10 games (he seems to get some assists here and there but pace is snail-like).

If he can stay healthy over the rest of this season, could be an interesting gamble for an extension if it’s not too pricy unless, as you stated, an irresistible offer comes in.

Indeed.

Though I think we have to look at the injury depletion factor + the overall weakness of our roster in assessing his production variance this year...

Throw a talented player like him, as he is playing this year, on a roster like Dallas or Toronto, and that production tics up across the board imo. (Look at Dushene this year as an example).

We need to add or upgrade talent next year. Adding established top 6 talent isn't easy anytime & will be even harder this summer BC of the big cap increase... Which increases the value of a talented guy that wants to be a part of what we're building.

His health was the big ?... And he appears to have answered that. Barring more bad luck, I think he should maintain a solid level of play for next 2-3 years with the way he's playing (not overly reliant on likely to decline physical traits but rather on his game sense & puck skills).

I think he's a good "keep" option. Upgrading on Gally in the top 9, plus a healthy Dach/Newhook, is the best case scenario imo.

CC Suzuki Slaf
Newhook Dach Monahan/?
Anderson - Dvorak - ?/Monahan

If that ? is a quality top 6 player, that's a playoff caliber top 9 next year, imo.

Necas could be an interesting target if he has fallen out of favor with Brindamour...

 

[Scriptor]

Indeed.

Though I think we have to look at the injury depletion factor + the overall weakness of our roster in assessing his production variance this year...

Throw a talented player like him, as he is playing this year, on a roster like Dallas or Toronto, and that production tics up across the board imo. (Look at Dushene this year as an example).

We need to add or upgrade talent next year. Adding established top 6 talent isn't easy anytime & will be even harder this summer BC of the big cap increase... Which increases the value of a talented guy that wants to be a part of what we're building.

His health was the big ?... And he appears to have answered that. Barring more bad luck, I think he should maintain a solid level of play for next 2-3 years with the way he's playing (not overly reliant on likely to decline physical traits but rather on his game sense & puck skills).

I think he's a good "keep" option. Upgrading on Gally in the top 9, plus a healthy Dach/Newhook, is the best case scenario imo.

CC Suzuki Slaf
Newhook Dach Monahan/?
Anderson - Dvorak - ?/Monahan

If that ? is a quality top 6 player, that's a playoff caliber top 9 next year, imo.

Necas could be an interesting target if he has fallen out of favor with Brindamour...

CC - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Roy
Heineman - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Dvorak/Evans - Ylonen

 

[McGees]

Basu x Godin also talk about Monahan
tldr: trade him

 

[Milhouse40]

The Newhook trade is lowkey like the Armia trade. Former high pick traded for more opportunity. Difference is Armia “used to” thrive in a bottom 6 role. I would have gambled on the draft pick. It’s all subjective as the pick is a gamble in itself

Not the same.

Armia was 25 years old when we got him, Newhook is 22.
There's a whole lot more untapped potential in Newhook than there was with Armia.

New team, New position as he played mostly wing instead of center.
Only 23 games with the Habs, hard to make a judgement.....but he had 9 points in his last 14 games before getting injured. He was starting to get going.

 

[sampollock]

Can't wait for a trade

 

[Rapala]

Good news is how Monahan has managed to stay healthy to this point (made it farther than last season and counting).

Less good news is how his offensive production has slowed down since about mid-November and more recently, only one goal in his last 10 games (he seems to get some assists here and there but pace is snail-like).

If he can stay healthy over the rest of this season, could be an interesting gamble for an extension if it’s not too pricy unless, as you stated, an irresistible offer comes in.

I agree Health will always remain the primary issue with regards to his value.

Monahan's numbers aren't horrible given how challenged we are offensively.
He can possibly match his 48 point total from 2019-20
That year he also put up 8 points in 10 post season games.

I envisioned him playing with either Dach or Suzuki once Dvorak returned and feel his numbers would surely be better if that had transpired.
Providing he's getting up and down fluidly GM's will see him as a 20ish-25ish player with upside potential.
I'm guessing we would think the same.

 

[Miller Time]

CC - Suzuki - Slaf
Newhook - Dach - Roy
Heineman - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Dvorak/Evans - Ylonen

That is an ok worst case scenario (though let's face it, Gally will still be there as well... As a 4th liner rather than top 9 hopefully)... But I think they will add at least 1 veteran top 9 player even if the top 6 talent they seek falls through.

The injury realities demand it if they want to have enough depth to seriously challenge for a playoff spot.

 

[HuGort]

Basu x Godin also talk about Monahan
tldr: trade him

I would offer him to Winnipeg for our 2nd back and Barron?

 

[HuGort]

Can't wait for a trade

Matheson to Dallas for Bourque?

 

[vokiel]

Matheson to Dallas for Bourque?

Why would Dallas do this .. ever ?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Trade all the vets, get new ones , rince repeat

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I would offer him to Winnipeg for our 2nd back and Barron?

Yeah, they're not doing that.

Habs 2nd back and let's go.

 

[rik schau]

Can't wait for a trade

You're going to have to! What are Hughes and Gorton doing? did they take the winter off?lol

 

[vokiel]

You're going to have to! What are Hughes and Gorton doing? did they take the winter off?lol

Focusing on development is apparently what they are doing.

 

[Milhouse40]

You're going to have to! What are Hughes and Gorton doing? did they take the winter off?lol

Not a whole lot of trades in the NHL this year....I think the biggest names so far were Tatar and Zadarov. And the Habs don't have a whole lot to offer either.

But could get interesting, PO race is shaping up nicely in the East, like 8 teams between 42 and 46 points, might entice some teams at making move sooner rather than later.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

You're going to have to! What are Hughes and Gorton doing? did they take the winter off?lol

I believe it was Dreger on the team 1200 said you likely won't see much movement for a few more weeks. Likely around the all-star break. Everyday teams accumulate more cap space, so they try and wait as long as they can before making a deal.

Sometimes are still in limbo where a run of 5, or 6 games could determine if they're buyers or sellers.



I have some interest in the Habs claiming Sanford, but he's fairly soft for a big boi

 

[rik schau]

Focusing on development is apparently what they are doing.

How are Gorton and Hughes involved in that capacity,any ideas, is is not usually done by specialized coaches,trainers etc?

Not a whole lot of trades in the NHL this year....I think the biggest names so far were Tatar and Zadarov. And the Habs don't have a whole lot to offer either.

But could get interesting, PO race is shaping up nicely in the East, like 8 teams between 42 and 46 points, might entice some teams at making move sooner rather than later.

Yes,it's been such an exciting season. Pardon me,I had to stifle a yawn. lol

 

[vokiel]

How are Gorton and Hughes involved in that capacity,any ideas, is is not usually done by specialized coaches,trainers etc?


Yes,it's been such an exciting season. Pardon me,I had to stifle a yawn. lol

No idea, you should ask them. I'd put my money on they're testing junior arena hot dogs.

 

[rik schau]

I believe it was Dreger on the team 1200 said you likely won't see much movement for a few more weeks. Likely around the all-star break. Everyday teams accumulate more cap space, so they try and wait as long as they can before making a deal.

Sometimes are still in limbo where a run of 5, or 6 games could determine if they're buyers or sellers.



I have some interest in the Habs claiming Sanford, but he's fairly soft for a big boi

Does Montreal need more softies,do they not have enough already?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why would Dallas do this .. ever ?

Maybe if they needed an offensive defenseman which they don't unless Heiskanen is gone for the year.

Trade Montembault to Buffalo for Kulich.

 

[bergo]

Do you think we can work a deal out with WPG around rutger mcgroarty for sean monahan? He's exactly the type of player the habs need

 

[vokiel]

Maybe if they needed an offensive defenseman which they don't unless Heiskanen is gone for the year.

Trade Montembault to Buffalo for Kulich.

Heiskanen is day to day.. There are no reasons for the Stars to acquire dmen..

Do you think we can work a deal out with WPG around rutger mcgroarty for sean monahan? He's exactly the type of player the habs need

You seriously expect a team to give up a top prospect for a stop gap rental?

 

[Eegs]

Maybe if they needed an offensive defenseman which they don't unless Heiskanen is gone for the year.

Trade Montembault to Buffalo for Kulich.

If Monty had Kulich-type value he'd be long gone by now.

 

[Andrei79]

Maybe if they needed an offensive defenseman which they don't unless Heiskanen is gone for the year.

Trade Montembault to Buffalo for Kulich.

And then trade Matheson for Dobson and then trade Gallagher for Knies and then trade Dvorak for Cirelli and then trade Caufield for Bedard and then f*** bro I think you're on to something there and it definitely isn't something you can download to play on your game console.

 

[Nicko999]

And then trade Matheson for Dobson and then trade Gallagher for Knies and then trade Dvorak for Cirelli and then trade Caufield for Bedard and then f*** bro I think you're on to something there and it definitely isn't something you can download to play on your game console.

You forgot the most important trade... Suzuki for McDavid