HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[salbutera]

Man Mercer would be a dream. But who do we have to have to offer to bolster that lineup and take Mercer. They seem to need a G and D with Hamilton out.

Allen + Matheson + Harris / Mailloux?

 

[vokiel]

Would sweeten this offer with a young LD and maybe a 2nd or Calgary's 1st. Leonard would fix our top 6

So Hutson? You're not getting Leonard for scraps..

 

[waitin425]

Allen + Matheson + Harris / Mailloux?

looks good on paper. We would have to retain...probably on Matheson and also take back some cap from them.

 

[SwiftyHab]

So Hutson? You're not getting Leonard for scraps..

I’d give Struble.

 

[McGees]

I’d give Struble.

bro - That would be tough. He is looking like our best or 2nd best Dman most nights....but we are going to have some tough choices soon as we have like 37 NHL ready D and tumbleweeds up front.

 

[BoneHutson]

I think WAS would be more interested in adding another solid F on top of Matheson if theyre going to give Leonard. Matheson + Monahan for Mantha + Leonard. They have enough projected cap space at TDL to take on Monahan.

 

[vokiel]

I’d give Struble.

I'd easily say no on Washington's side..

 

[The Great Weal]

looks good on paper. We would have to retain...probably on Matheson and also take back some cap from them.

It really doesn't. They wouldn't give up Mercer for Meier, they won't do it for a backup, bottom pairing dman, and a #4 dman. Mercer is also killing it right now with 10 points in his last 10. Why would they get rid of him?

 

[WeThreeKings]

The funniest thing is that while we are waiting for Xhekaj, Mailloux and Trudeau to mature their game in the AHL... and wait for the close debut of Hutson, Reinbacher and Engstrom.

We have Konyushkov who is one of, if not the, best u23 defenseman in the KHL.

And we just have Struble turn into a great NHL defenseman.. Struble would be the 3rd best defenseman on Toronto; and we might not even be able to keep him here because of the log jam coming.

 

[SwiftyHab]

The funniest thing is that while we are waiting for Xhekaj, Mailloux and Trudeau to mature their game in the AHL... and wait for the close debut of Hutson, Reinbacher and Engstrom.

We have Konyushkov who is one of, if not the, best u23 defenseman in the KHL.

And we just have Struble turn into a great NHL defenseman.. Struble would be the 3rd best defenseman on Toronto; and we might not even be able to keep him here because of the log jam coming.

Hence why we need to trade at least 1 of these guys for a stud like Leonard.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Jets are one of the top 5 teams in the league. 2 pts behind the Bruins for the best record in the entire league with same number of games played.

If they are still here at the deadline, what are they waiting for to go for it? This is the year.

They smoked the Kings in that Dubois trade.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

So Hutson? You're not getting Leonard for scraps..

Maybe we should have just drafted him when we had the chance.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

The funniest thing is that while we are waiting for Xhekaj, Mailloux and Trudeau to mature their game in the AHL... and wait for the close debut of Hutson, Reinbacher and Engstrom.

We have Konyushkov who is one of, if not the, best u23 defenseman in the KHL.

And we just have Struble turn into a great NHL defenseman.. Struble would be the 3rd best defenseman on Toronto; and we might not even be able to keep him here because of the log jam coming.

This can be the limitation with indiscriminately drafting BPA. In an upcoming draft, if the best player by far is a unicorn defenceman, and you're HuGo, what would you do then? Trading from strength is great, but the opposing GM is aware that HuGo are desperate to move a D for an F. This is what I mean by the draft being a weighted sum of BPA and need, and what varies is the weight given to each.

More immediately, I guess we will trade whomever we can "sell high" with, while being mindful that players like Wifi have a unique role and Hutson is having a historic NCAA career.

 

[Andy]

I can’t see the team trade Struble. Harris is looking like the odd man out. i think Barron is also going to end up as a tradeable asset with all these dmen coming up

 

[WeThreeKings]

This can be the limitation with indiscriminately drafting BPA. In an upcoming draft, if the best player by far is a unicorn defenceman, and you're HuGo, what would you do then? Trading from strength is great, but the opposing GM is aware that HuGo are desperate to move a D for an F. This is what I mean by the draft being a weighted sum of BPA and need, and what varies is the weight given to each.

More immediately, I guess we will trade whomever we can "sell high" with, while being mindful that players like Wifi have a unique role and Hutson is having a historic NCAA career.

I think you'd likely collect an asset and trade down, or just accept that you are going to pass over the BPA for a more needs based pick.

It gets easier to pick 'BPA' the further you go down into a draft.. but when you're picking in the top half of the first round, roster construction, prospect pool strengths, all of that stuff does have to be part of the equation.

 

[SwiftyHab]

I'd easily say no on Washington's side..

We have the most goals scored by defencemen in the league and they’re almost all on their entry level contracts. Pretty sure Washington would be happy to take one.

Also, our goalies are top in the league in making saves above expected.

And we have a cheap nearly point per game big centre in Monahan.


There’s more than enough here to like and make a great deal for a top 6 forward like Leonard.

 

[malton]

Most of our young D have good value at the moment. Would definitely be the ideal time to move a few of them before the shine wears off on some. They won't all pan out. Identify your main guys and move the rest.

 

[Simarino]

Maybe we should have just drafted him when we had the chance.

You dont draft Reinbacher and you have Mailloux and Barron as your two top prospects on RD, i don't think either will end up first pairing d-man(hopefully im wrong)

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

I can’t see the team trade Struble. Harris is looking like the odd man out. i think Barron is also going to end up as a tradeable asset with all these dmen coming up

Neither can I. He skates like the wind, is strong as a bull, and he can handle himself in a scrap. He also seems to be improving, so no one knows his ceiling. We don't have many like that.

Maybe we should have just drafted him when we had the chance.

I too found his abilities intriguing. Let's hope that Reinbacher is a unicorn of sorts, though it seems like the Habs have a stable full of them at that position.

 

[salbutera]

Hence why we need to trade at least 1 of these guys for a stud like Leonard.

Why would any team trade a cheap (ELC) stud unless they’re getting a veteran high end talent back (I.e Iginla for Nieuwendyk)

 

[HuGort]

Would sweeten this offer with a young LD and maybe a 2nd or Calgary's 1st. Leonard would fix our top 6

Right a wrong. Leonard should been our pick. He good fit in our lineup

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Most of our young D have good value at the moment. Would definitely be the ideal time to move a few of them before the shine wears off on some. They won't all pan out. Identify your main guys and move the rest.

There's no rush yet. Continue to let Struble, Harris and Barron get top 4 minutes and let their value rise, while not rushing guys like Hutson, Engstrom, Reinbacher and Mailloux.

Hughes is waiting for a big fish to be made available (Pettersson?). Until then we just continue to slowly accumilate assets and let those assets increase in value.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Why would any team trade a cheap (ELC) stud unless they’re getting a veteran high end talent back (I.e Iginla for Nieuwendyk)

The trade would start with a vet like Matheson but Washington knows its window is small and probably wouldnt trade one of its best prospects just for a vet so you'd probably have to add a very good prospect back to make the deal work. At least that's how you'd do it on PS5.

 

[DAChampion]

I wonder what the trade values of Harris, Struble, Barron, and Xhekaj are?

I'll assume it's too early to flip and grow.

 

[McGees]

The trade would start with a vet like Matheson but Washington knows its window is small and probably wouldnt trade one of its best prospects just for a vet so you'd probably have to add a very good prospect back to make the deal work. At least that's how you'd do it on PS5.

The thing is, he isn't one of their best prospects...He is like, their ONLY prospect lol (except maybe Cristall). They'd be pretty dumb to trade him tbh as they are an old decrepit team on the verge of a rebuild.