HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Andy]

I do think the habs have more than enough assets to trade for a young offensive player again (ala Dach and Newhook).

I'm hoping they can make such a trade this season.

 

[HomaridII]

Yup - Jets are like the Expos their only hope to survive is by keeping and growing young (re: cheaper) players since no one wants to willing sign there. They will not trade young assets unless forced to like Laine & PLD

Jets are one of the top 5 teams in the league. 2 pts behind the Bruins for the best record in the entire league with same number of games played.

If they are still here at the deadline, what are they waiting for to go for it? This is the year.

 

[salbutera]

I do think the habs have more than enough assets to trade for a young offensive player again (ala Dach and Newhook).

I'm hoping they can make such a trade this season.

If Habs end up with 10-15OA pick this draft they will

 

[Frankenheimer]

Timmins would tell everything to anyone who asked around ice rinks. He was the biggest hole on the ship...

Basu wrote a 2022 draft prospect article with a section where you could tell he was pissed to not be allowed in the loop anymore after Hughes took office.

Lebrun went from #1 legit Habs insider under MB to admitting having to ask his sources in other teams to try to know what is going on inside the Habs a few months ago.

And that "Habs want too re-sign Monahan" rumor actually started with "Monahan seems to like it here, I [media dude] think the Habs should re-sign him" a few weeks back. It has nothing to do with Hughes trying to increase his value via the media that most people outside the Province aren't reading...

I think the point is that leaks aren't defacto proof of being leaky as they are often strategic especially in politics and negotiations. I haven't followed this issue closely enough to know which it is in this case.

 

[waitin425]

What r HuGo going to do with that 2nd rounder? Shove it up their asses? Given where the Habs stand presently as a team that pick serves very little value

Low probability historically that pick turns into an NHL regular & no team will offer a needed asset for that pick

Habs have reached a point this deadline where moves will need to involve picks & prospects potentially with vets to acquire assets to bolster forward position

Even if HuGo acquire 1st rounders they will be 20+ and no team work give up a Dach or Newhook for a 1st rounder past midpoint

What would you trade Monahan for and/or package him with to obtain the best return?

We also have to play in the market that other teams are putting out there.

I agree in principal that we need to be looking to bolster the forward position, specifically top 6. But, there will be very few contending teams (ie those likely to trade with us) that will give up that level of asset.

Let's circle back to Winnipeg.

Monahan + ??? for Lambert?

 

[Deus ex machina]

Habs haven't leaked shit. HuGo do not run a leaky boat like MB was. A few local media guys wants the Habs to extend Monahan again and are letting their opinions be known as speculations. It was the same thing last season and Monahan wasn't re-signed until June.

Monahan is 100% getting moved unless teams aren't offering anything for him.

It's not a leak if it's on purpose.

It's to the Habs advantage to let it known that they are satisfied with Monahan's play and are considering signing him long term.
Only helps his trade value and gives them more leverage in trade talks.

Or they legit want to sign him.
Either way, there's no downside.

 

[Team_Spirit]

04-14 Draft picks cheat sheet

 

[sampollock]

My opinion, any deal with Winnipeg will exclude Perfetti, McGroarty, Lambert, Luciuz, and Barlow.

Jets aren't going to give up any of their 1st round prospects for Monahan. And Perfetti is the least likely they will trade out of all of them since he's there now and contributing to their success.

Monahan can definitely help them, but he'd be more of a depth addition. If they're to give up any of these prospects, it would be for a game breaker.

the peg needs to take the next step.. they owe it to there fans.. belive me I went 7 years in a row to see the habs.
it's time for this team to go for it.

now that being said.. Sean M for Cole P straight up no... but package Sean M up with picks...maybe
remember Kent gave 2 picks for Capt Hook

What r HuGo going to do with that 2nd rounder? Shove it up their asses? Given where the Habs stand presently as a team that pick serves very little value

Low probability historically that pick turns into an NHL regular & no team will offer a needed asset for that pick

Habs have reached a point this deadline where moves will need to involve picks & prospects potentially with vets to acquire assets to bolster forward position

Even if HuGo acquire 1st rounders they will be 20+ and no team work give up a Dach or Newhook for a 1st rounder past midpoint

that is the ticket... enough picks go get some talent now with the picks package them up

 

[JRichard]

Kulak got a second. I mean he was nowhere near being worth that. Hoffman + Pitlick got a second too. HuGo is more talented in selling bums than BargainBin, who was looking for bargains.

Hoffman and Pitlick got 2nds? Seems like a short-cut statement. Didnt the deal involve 1st picks, cap dumps and like 4 nhl players too?

 

[morhilane]

It's not a leak if it's on purpose.

It's to the Habs advantage to let it known that they are satisfied with Monahan's play and are considering signing him long term.
Only helps his trade value and gives them more leverage in trade talks.

Or they legit want to sign him.
Either way, there's no downside.

The Habs don't need to tell anyone but Monahan's agent that they are satisfied with his play and are considering signing him long term.

If the Habs are planning to re-sign him, he simply won't be available at the deadline and at best, it tells teams who might be interested at the deadline that Monahan might have a backroom deal to re-sign with the Habs on July 1st and there is no point in paying big to acquire him since he is unlikely to re-sign with them.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

If Money is going to get traded for a 3rd or 4th round pick, I'd rather we keep him and extend him to a 2-3 year contract at a reasonable cap hit. He is a great leader to have around

 

[sampollock]

If Money is going to get traded for a 3rd or 4th round pick, I'd rather we keep him and extend him to a 2-3 year contract at a reasonable cap hit. He is a great leader to have around

he better get more than that.. sign him if only a 3rd.. but I think more.

 

[Simarino]

Washington might be in desperation mode come TDL if they're in a playoff spot, they will want to give OVI and Carlson a chance for one more deep run. I would call them to see if a Matheson vs Cap Dump+Leonard would be possible.

 

[skidcells]

Time trade Monahan and/or Savard and/or Allen before lee loose them and can’t trade them. monahan is the priority. Our C depth has taken a hit though

 

[LaP]

Washington might be in desperation mode come TDL if they're in a playoff spot, they will want to give OVI and Carlson a chance for one more deep run. I would call them to see if a Matheson vs Cap Dump+Leonard would be possible.

They would be 200% stupid to do that. As bad as when they gave Forsberg for Erat.

 

[LaP]

If Money is going to get traded for a 3rd or 4th round pick, I'd rather we keep him and extend him to a 2-3 year contract at a reasonable cap hit. He is a great leader to have around

lol he's worth much more than that. 1 millions cap hit around the deadline. 20 goals 40-50 player. Can play center and wing. Good on faceoffs. HIs history injury wont matter at deadline if he is healthy since the team acquiring him will acquire him for about 30 games or so. I know you know your NHL enough to know this kind of players return a 1st minimum. Let's not be disingenuous. Monahan would fit the Rangers and Avs perfectly.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

lol he's worth much more than that. 1 millions cap hit around the deadline. 20 goals 40-50 player. Can play center and wing. Good on faceoffs. HIs history injury wont matter at deadline if he is healthy since the team acquiring him will acquire him for about 30 games or so. I know you know your NHL enough to know this kind of players return a 1st minimum. Let's not be disingenuous. Monahan would fit the Rangers and Avs perfectly.

I will believe it when I see the deal happening. Heck even for a 2nd rounder I'd be hesitant to move him. I really like what he brings to the team and the leader he can be for this young core going forward for the next few seasons.

Unless we are talking 1st + solid prospect, I wouldn't mind holding on to him. But that's my opinion

 

[sampollock]

can mtl gain more cap space how if Dvorak is put on LTIR??

 

[The Great Weal]

I do think the habs have more than enough assets to trade for a young offensive player again (ala Dach and Newhook).

I'm hoping they can make such a trade this season.

Hoping it's someone more proven than those guys at the time

 

[salbutera]

What would you trade Monahan for and/or package him with to obtain the best return?

We also have to play in the market that other teams are putting out there.

I agree in principal that we need to be looking to bolster the forward position, specifically top 6. But, there will be very few contending teams (ie those likely to trade with us) that will give up that level of asset.

Let's circle back to Winnipeg.

Monahan + ??? for Lambert?

U bring up a very valid question, I tend to look at it as two fold. Which teams “have to add a veteran G, D or C” this deadline and out of that population which teams match well w Habs - have cap room + NHL ready assets willing to deal.

NJD, Buf and any others? I just don’t see Winter-peg ever dealing youth..

So is there a deal to be had w NJD by providing multiple assets both veteran + pick / prospects to land Mercer? Are they desperate enough as an org to make such a move in next 4-6 weeks?

How about Buf - vet for prospect? Or have they thrown in the towel?

 

[The Great Weal]

Washington might be in desperation mode come TDL if they're in a playoff spot, they will want to give OVI and Carlson a chance for one more deep run. I would call them to see if a Matheson vs Cap Dump+Leonard would be possible.

Would you trade Armia+Reinbacher for Matheson as an aging bubble team?

 

[JRichard]

Washington might be in desperation mode come TDL if they're in a playoff spot, they will want to give OVI and Carlson a chance for one more deep run. I would call them to see if a Matheson vs Cap Dump+Leonard would be possible.

you can call…

 

[SwiftyHab]

Washington might be in desperation mode come TDL if they're in a playoff spot, they will want to give OVI and Carlson a chance for one more deep run. I would call them to see if a Matheson vs Cap Dump+Leonard would be possible.

Would sweeten this offer with a young LD and maybe a 2nd or Calgary's 1st. Leonard would fix our top 6

 

[Deus ex machina]

can mtl gain more cap space how if Dvorak is put on LTIR??

Yes, if they need the cap space.
Same thing with Dach and Wideman.

 

[waitin425]

U bring up a very valid question, I tend to look at it as two fold. Which teams “have to add a veteran G, D or C” this deadline and out of that population which teams match well w Habs - have cap room + NHL ready assets willing to deal.

NJD, Buf and any others? I just don’t see Winter-peg ever dealing youth..

So is there a deal to be had w NJD by providing multiple assets both veteran + pick / prospects to land Mercer? Are they desperate enough as an org to make such a move in next 4-6 weeks?

How about Buf - vet for prospect? Or have they thrown in the towel?

Man Mercer would be a dream. But who do we have to have to offer to bolster that lineup and take Mercer. They seem to need a G and D with Hamilton out.