HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

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No problem. I'm ok with moving Mailloux, who has much lower value for me than Monahan. We have a surplus of young D and can never have enough talented proven centers. I'd even part with Barron rather than Moneyhands.
Hughes will not trade any defenseman until he is sure what their potential is. And not for a potential bust like Johnston.
 
I don't see EDM trading Draisaltl. They would only make McDavid angry and lose him in the future. Leon also has a M-NTC. Pretty sure Montreal is not on his list of team. We would also be paying him 13m until he turn 38 years old.
They would lose their fanbase. They need to add to what they have.

Canadiens would be a good partner. Monahan, Allen, we could add some blueline help.

In return we want prospects and picks.
 
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The article doesn't say much but Edmonton and LA showed interest in Allen. Do you think Allen for Copley and a pick might happen this season?

Edmonton would want to dump back Campbell for cheap, so that's a no.

Getting a goalie back in an Allen's trade who isn't in the AHL doesn't resolve the Habs 3-goalie situation. You don't want Dobes to be the 3rd goalie and get called up if someone is injured. He's struggling enough in the AHL as is.
 
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SJ are a joke this year Tomas Hertl must hate it .

Could he be a good addition to the habs ?
I know his contract is a bit high at 8,2mil a year until he's 35 years old

SJ : Hertl
for
Habs : Armia + 2nd pick 2024 (avs) + Norlinder/Struble + Kidney/Mysak
 
They would lose their fanbase. They need to add to what they have.

Canadiens would be a good partner. Monahan, Allen, we could add some blueline help.

In return we want prospects and picks.
The price will be very heavy. We don't have many good prospect to trade like Buffalo or Anaheim. He also have a NTC in his contract. They will try every thing to sign him.
 
SJ are a joke this year Tomas Hertl must hate it .

Could he be a good addition to the habs ?
I know his contract is a bit high at 8,2mil a year until he's 35 years old

SJ : Hertl
for
Habs : Armia + 2nd pick 2024 (avs) + Norlinder/Struble + Kidney/Mysak
Just because you think a player may not like his situation probably won't sway a team to accept trash in return for them. He isn't really a fit for us anywas.
 
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SJ are a joke this year Tomas Hertl must hate it .

Could he be a good addition to the habs ?
I know his contract is a bit high at 8,2mil a year until he's 35 years old

SJ : Hertl
for
Habs : Armia + 2nd pick 2024 (avs) + Norlinder/Struble + Kidney/Mysak
If SJ trade Hertl. They will probably lose the next 40 games.
 
Just because you think a player may not like his situation probably won't sway a team to accept trash in return for them. He isn't really a fit for us anywas.
Herlt is a 60 points player with 2 more good years before he start to decline with a big contract.
They won't get much for him
Unless they retained on him, then they would get a lot more

SJ : Hertl (3.5 mil retained)
for
Habs : First pick 2026 + Engstrom + 2nd pick (avs) + Armia

If SJ trade Hertl. They will probably lose the next 40 games.
Guess that's want they want. Celebrini is a awesome piece, better then Slaf, Laf, Power
 
Herlt is a 60 points player with 2 more good years before he start to decline with a big contract.
They won't get much for him
Unless they retained on him, then they would get a lot more

SJ : Hertl (3.5 mil retained)
for
Habs : First pick 2026 + Engstrom + 2nd pick (avs) + Armia


Guess that's want they want. Celebrini is a awesome piece, better then Slaf, Laf, Power
No tanking team want to lose this many game. The 10 goals/Game is very embarrassing for the team, fans and the GM. You don't want to be this level of garbage. They are already one of the worst team in NHL.

Trade Hertl and they won't be able to beat a OHL team.
 
The article doesn't say much but Edmonton and LA showed interest in Allen. Do you think Allen for Copley and a pick might happen this season?

”I’d drive Allen straight to the airport myself!” is that the common turn of phrase?


Yes, the Habs should find a way to jettison Allen. He’s not a short term, medium term, or long term asset for the Habs. Not good for the tank nor for incremental growth. His cap hit is awkward.

With all the LTIR space, I’d happily take back a large but expiring contract in addition to a respectable future asset in exchange for Jake Allen. The problem is EDM would want to swap Campbell wouldn’t they? That’s a no-go.
 
So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?
 
So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?
Easy pass.

Too much term and cost left on Huberdeau's contract.

Gallagher should slow down and produce less than Huberdeau, but not at the amount it's worth it to trade for Huberdeau.

That contract sucks. Gallagher's sucks, too, but it's better than his and that's f***ing rare.
 
So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?
Huberdeau may very well have the worst contract in the league right now. Gally is half way done with his terrible contract at least. It's a pretty big risk.
 
So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?

Gallagher is so much more valuable than Huberdeau, so there's no way to make that work.
 
I may be wrong here but i don't think we will be trading ANY of our young prospects until at least the end of this year to see what we have here.Hugo have pretty well only made trades that get us back draft picks/prospects and vets that we HAVE to take back in trades .We are not in a position to get rid of our young prospects to win now.We need them to develop and get the goaltender situation staightened out and see how the remainder of the season goes.It's fun to dream but not realistic at this point.
 
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So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?
I'm convinced that Huberdeau is just an awful fit with the Flames, guy has too much IQ and skill to be this bad and I believe he'd be awesome next to Suzuki and Caufield. That being said his term is awful and I don't want any part of it.
 
I may be wrong here but i don't think we will be trading ANY of our young prospects until at least the end of this year to see what we have here.Hugo have pretty well only made trades that get us back draft picks/prospects and vets that we HAVE to take back in trades .We are not in a position to get rid of our young prospects to win now.We need them to develop and get the goaltender situation staightened out and see how the remainder of the season goes.It's fun to dream but not realistic at this point.
??? Why would we trade any of our prospects and who even mentioned that??
 
So out of curiosity if there was a Gallagher for Huberdeau++ type deal, what would people want/need from that ++?

Yes it's your classic Quebecois star coming to MTL after they're no longer much of a star, but even if 55 points is his new normal it's still an upgrade on what we have and there's still a chance he could get find his form under MSL. I'm not sure what I would even want the ++ to be since the contract is so bad and basically buyout proof unlike Gallagher's. But perhaps if allowable changing the terms of the pick we already have so that it's unprotected?
I don't think Huberdeau fits in the culture they want to have.
Even if Calgary retains half of his salary and takes Gally back, i'm not sure MTL would do it.
 
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If they can't get a first for Monahan, I could see them instead adding another Suzuki/Newhook/Dach style acquisition to add more offensive talent to the Habs pool if a contender has someone who can be sacrificed for a cup run TDL. If Lehkonen can return a player with Barron's ceiling, what kind of player can Monahan bring back?
Should be able to get a first for Monahan
 
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