HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[HuGort]

Did they balk at adding a sweetener or what the requested sweetener was?

He never elaborated. I think point is Habs out there trying to use their cap space to acquire assets. I presume draft picks. Most likely first round. Garland contract is no feather duster

 

[Sterling Archer]

Pettersson isn’t going anywhere.

He plays for Vancouver so that’s a given.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Kent Johnson might be available.

32 thoughts podcast had a note about him, but I missed the actual mark and I'm too lazy to go back and listen to it all to find it.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Kent Johnson might be available.

32 thoughts podcast had a note about him, but I missed the actual mark and I'm too lazy to go back and listen to it all to find it.

I’d be shocked if he was available.

 

[sampollock]

I hope Kent can swing more prospect deals

Build on scoring

 

[Miller Time]

I'd be on the phone with WPG to see if an Anderson/Ehlers deal interests them...

To WPG
Anderson, Pearson

To Mtl
Ehler, Barron

Bowness doesn't seem find of Ehlers, who has struggled since he arrived... And I bet he'd love be Anderson (or at least the idea of him). Pearson gives them some added middle 6 vet scoring depth with no obligations past this year.

Ehler adds skill to whatever top 9 line he gets slotted into. Barron gives us basically what Anderson has been providing this year, at a fraction of the cap cost (+ the bro connection )

Who says no?

 

[calder candidate]

I'd be on the phone with WPG to see if an Anderson/Ehlers deal interests them...

To WPG
Anderson, Pearson

To Mtl
Ehler, Barron

Bowness doesn't seem find of Ehlers, who has struggled since he arrived... And I bet he'd love be Anderson (or at least the idea of him). Pearson gives them some added middle 6 vet scoring depth with no obligations past this year.

Ehler adds skill to whatever top 9 line he gets slotted into. Barron gives us basically what Anderson has been providing this year, at a fraction of the cap cost (+ the bro connection )

Who says no?

The fact that I would do it in a hart beat make me think that WPG says no… I don’t know if Ehler is what we are missing… seem like Ehler might still be more valuable than Anderson and is contract… Love getting Barron he is a great 4th liner, will get all the brother combo, Barron, Suzuki, Xhekaj, Guhle, Caufeild some could be in Laval or TR.

 

[Miller Time]

The fact that I would do it in a hart beat make me think that WPG says no… I don’t know if Ehler is what we are missing… seem like Ehler might still be more valuable than Anderson and is contract… Love getting Barron he is a great 4th liner, will get all the brother combo, Barron, Suzuki, Xhekaj, Guhle, Caufeild some could be in Laval or TR.

He's clearly not favoured by Bowness, and so far this year averaging 15min/game (under 14 in 4 of last 5).

6M cap hit with another year remaining.

While I think he has significantly more value than Anderson, given the situation in WPG, I could see them being happy to move him which would be hard to do without taking cap$ back. Anderson's PF aura might just have enough appeal to make it work

 

[calder candidate]

He's clearly not favoured by Bowness, and so far this year averaging 15min/game (under 14 in 4 of last 5).

6M cap hit with another year remaining.

While I think he has significantly more value than Anderson, given the situation in WPG, I could see them being happy to move him which would be hard to do without taking cap$ back. Anderson's PF aura might just have enough appeal to make it work

Just moving Anderson is contract could be a win, I have no issue getting a guy like that is the dog house like Ehlers or E. Kane back. A guy like Ehlers be ideal since he could easily be move 50% retain at the next TDL.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I hope Kent can swing more prospect deals

Build on scoring

He needs to find a way to acquire elite talent, preferably at C or G.

 

[HuGort]

He needs to find a way to acquire elite talent, preferably at C or G.

Finding right goalie will be crucial

 

[Habssince89]

If they can't get a first for Monahan, I could see them instead adding another Suzuki/Newhook/Dach style acquisition to add more offensive talent to the Habs pool if a contender has someone who can be sacrificed for a cup run TDL. If Lehkonen can return a player with Barron's ceiling, what kind of player can Monahan bring back?

 

[ReHabs]

What would you give up for Draisaitl?

 

[BaseballCoach]

If they can't get a first for Monahan, I could see them instead adding another Suzuki/Newhook/Dach style acquisition to add more offensive talent to the Habs pool if a contender has someone who can be sacrificed for a cup run TDL. If Lehkonen can return a player with Barron's ceiling, what kind of player can Monahan bring back?

Just try to keep Monahan if he is healthy. He's 29, not 39.

If he is not healthy, he won't fetch anything anyway.

If I'm Hughes, I am not looking at trades until and unless Sean shows he won't extend here at a reasonable cap hit.

 

[G0bias]

Just try to keep Monahan if he is healthy. He's 29, not 39.

If he is not healthy, he won't fetch anything anyway.

If I'm Hughes, I am not looking at trades until and unless Sean shows he won't extend here at a reasonable cap hit.

Realistically we'd be looking at minimum another 3 years before entering contention.

You'd be banking on Monahan being healthy at 34yrs old. And still offering a similar level of play.

The gamble isn't worth it, specially if he can be packaged with a sweetener to get a core-aged player with potential.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Realistically we'd be looking at minimum another 3 years before entering contention.

You'd be banking on Monahan being healthy at 34yrs old. And still offering a similar level of play.

The gamble isn't worth it, specially if he can be packaged with a sweetener to get a core-aged player with potential.

Sounds like you ainm to remove more good players to delay the contention window longer!

Or maybe, jut maybe, we should listen to Jeff Gorton and what he said when he started with us.

He wants to have a team that is a perennial contender, build a good team piece by piece and keep a flow of talent coming. Monahan is a good piece. He helps the group mature while performing on the ice. If he is willing to take a salary that will not damage us if he is the 7th forward, then I would not go backwards.

So if we trade him, I'd want a two-way 60 point player back, or a top-3 D, except we have a lot of D already.

So who is a core player with potential that you would be willing to trade Monahan for? If it's Alex Newhook level, that's not enough for me.

 

[G0bias]

Sounds like you ainm to remove more good players to delay the contention window longer!

Or maybe, jut maybe, we should listen to Jeff Gorton and what he said when he started with us.

He wants to have a team that is a perennial contender, build a good team piece by piece and keep a flow of talent coming. Monahan is a good piece. He helps the group mature while performing on the ice. If he is willing to take a salary that will not damage us if he is the 7th forward, then I would not go backwards.

So if we trade him, I'd want a two-way 60 point player back, or a top-3 D, except we have a lot of D already.

So who is a core player with potential that you would be willing to trade Monahan for? If it's Alex Newhook level, that's not enough for me.

Taking advantage of Monahan's current value, god willing he stays healthy, would be exactly that.

Kent Johnson who just got sent down by Colombus, could be worth a look as CLB with the moves they've made in the summer definitely didn't plan on tanking this year. And you never know with Jarmo

 

[BaseballCoach]

Taking advantage of Monahan's current value, god willing he stays healthy, would be exactly that.

Kent Johnson who just got sent down by Colombus, could be worth a look as CLB with the moves they've made in the summer definitely didn't plan on tanking this year. And you never know with Jarmo

Do you want to trade Monahan for Kent Johnson? Would that be "taking advantage of current value"?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Do you want to trade Monahan for Kent Johnson? Would that be "taking advantage of current value"?

I think that has the potential to be a massive steal for Montreal. Johnson is an incredible “prospect” though at 21 should be coming out and being a more consistent difference maker in the NHL. He’s exactly the kind of age and skill that would supplement this core.

Monahan, while I love him and he’s been a beast for this club when healthy, isn’t part of the long term plans. He’ll eventually either be traded or sign with another club who needs him now, while the Habs won’t be competitive for another year or more.

That being said, no clue why CB trades for Monny now unless they think they’re in their window with all the signings and want to make a push this year.

 

[26Mats]

I think that has the potential to be a massive steal for Montreal. Johnson is an incredible “prospect” though at 21 should be coming out and being a more consistent difference maker in the NHL. He’s exactly the kind of age and skill that would supplement this core.

Monahan, while I love him and he’s been a beast for this club when healthy, isn’t part of the long term plans. He’ll eventually either be traded or sign with another club who needs him now, while the Habs won’t be competitive for another year or more.

That being said, no clue why CB trades for Monny now unless they think they’re in their window with all the signings and want to make a push this year.

Yeah, we ain't getting Kent Johnson for Monahan.

Maybe Mailloux or one of our young D as the centerpiece gets him. But not an injury prone vet.

 

[26Mats]

Mailloux as the centerpiece doesn't get you close to Johnson, let's be real here.

Yeah I think so. But it depends on what the other pieces are and how high Columbus are on Johnson.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Yeah, we ain't getting Kent Johnson for Monahan.

Maybe Mailloux or one of our young D as the centerpiece gets him. But not an injury prone vet.

No problem. I'm ok with moving Mailloux, who has much lower value for me than Monahan. We have a surplus of young D and can never have enough talented proven centers. I'd even part with Barron rather than Moneyhands.

 

[26Mats]

No problem. I'm ok with moving Mailloux, who has much lower value for me than Monahan. We have a surplus of young D and can never have enough talented proven centers. I'd even part with Barron rather than Moneyhands.

It would cost a lot more than just Mailloux or Barron.

Mailloux as the centerpiece doesn't get you close to Johnson, let's be real here.

I sometimes wonder about using Lane Hutson in this type of move. I think the dcore will be fine without Hutson, and it's the top 6 that needs offensive talent.

I suppose for the right offensive player it's a no-brainer, despite Hutson's unique skill set.

 

[BaseballCoach]

It would cost a lot more than just Mailloux or Barron.

Columbus must be amazing if Johnston can't get a regular shift on that squad. Anyhow, maybe we add a little but the question is: how does CBJ view Johnston?

On HFBoards, some BlueJacket fans are questioning his compete level. He apparently got benched in Cleveland for lazy play, despite getting 3 assists in 2 games.

It would cost a lot more than just Mailloux or Barron.


I sometimes wonder about using Lane Hutson in this type of move. I think the dcore will be fine without Hutson, and it's the top 6 that needs offensive talent.

I suppose for the right offensive player it's a no-brainer, despite Hutson's unique skill set.

I'm in for considering Hutson in trades. However, I need to do more research on Johnston. I'm not liking some of the comments repeated about his game.

 

[Deus ex machina]

It would cost a lot more than just Mailloux or Barron.


I sometimes wonder about using Lane Hutson in this type of move. I think the dcore will be fine without Hutson, and it's the top 6 that needs offensive talent.

I suppose for the right offensive player it's a no-brainer, despite Hutson's unique skill set.

The Habs have been looking for a PP QB for how many years now?

I don't think they'll trade him.