HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[Joseph Nathan]

Monahan should be one of the highly sought asset amongst contenders at TDL; Habs can reasonably hope to fetch at least a (late) 1st round pick as it stands. If possible, the Habs should accept a forward cap dump in the Monahan trade to further optimize his value.

Pearson could be intriguing asset at TDL as well as it stands, could maybe fetch a (late) 2nd round pick, provided however the Habs use a salary retention on him (either their own last remaining spot or by renting one from another team for a 4th round pick). Again, if possible, the Habs should accept a forward cap dump in the Pearson trade to further optimize his value.

With Dach out, Monahan traded at TDL and Reinbacher in Europe, Dvorak and Savard would both require a significant package to be moved this year rather than next (off)season, when they’ll both become expiring UFA and easier to trade. Unless a (late) 1st is involved and the Habs don’t have to pay more than a 3rd for renting a salary retention spot over 2 years, it’d be optimal to wait until 2024-2025 before putting them on the market.

With many years left, Anderson would have to be traded in the offseason, without retention. A team would have to give a very good ELC/RFA player + 2nd to avoid giving up a 1st round pick + prospect.

Nobody is giving up a 1st or 2nd for Monahan

 

[Tyson]

Nobody is giving up a 1st or 2nd for Monahan

Didn't Tampa give a first for David Savard a few years ago?

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I hate the Monahan situation, while I want a lot in return, he is also the type of player you get the sense so much respected in the room and also a guy that wants and love to be here.

Trade Dvorak instead!! If Monahan stays healthy all season, I wouldn't mind him signing a 3-4 year extension and yes I know it's a risk

Didn't Tampa give a first for David Savard a few years ago?

They also h=gave up 5 draft picks for Tanner Jeannot !!!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Nobody is giving up a 1st or 2nd for Monahan

I can guarantee you that a healthy center on a 1 year deal for no money will be a VERY attractive commodity at the deadline for contenders.

Boston and Colorado are two teams alone who would trip over themselves to add Monahan.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

 

[Guy Larose]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

Nobody can say either way. It depends on where he is health and points wise by TDL. If he hasn't missed a game all year and has 50 points or something, he will definitely get one. If he's missing half the games and has 20 points, probably not.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

If he shows he can stay healthy, he’s going to be worth his weight in gold come the trade deadline.

 

[bcv]

Each year there's mid players getting traded for 1sts at the deadline. Chiarot returned a 1st and a prospect. I'm sure Monahan can return similar value.

 

[The Great Weal]

I doubt Monahan nets a first. Not because he's not good enough, but he's incredibly injury-prone. If he barely misses any game by the deadline, maybe a contender gives a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if he's healthy, but don't expect more than that.

 

[salbutera]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

If he’s healthy & productive it will be a bidding war at trade deadline - can’t believe there’s even a debate about it. Teams trading for him will be surrendering 25OA+.

As Julien Brisebois said last deadline, there’s a high probability that 1st round pick (for Jeanotte) never plays a single game in the NHL

But will he be healthy? Big IF

 

[Andy]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

Monahan's salary would fit under most competing team's cap.

If Monahan is producing at a 50 point clip and is top in faceoffs by trade deadline, he's definitely getting back a first.

 

[ML16]

Nobody is giving up a 1st or 2nd for Monahan

Time will tell, but if Monahan remains healthy and maintains his production pace, I don’t see how he wouldn’t fetch at least 1st round pick; he’d then indeed be amongst the prime TDL assets available.

 

[ReHabs]

Compared to getting a roster upgrade for a playoff run, a first round pick (20s and above) is very cheap indeed.

It blew my mind every time tight wad Bergevin would refuse to part with draft capital for a roster upgrade. It’s blowing my mind that Hughes isn’t parting with Anderson and isn’t acquiring roster upgrade. Both GMs suffered from wanting to place one ass on two chairs.

Monahan can net a first round pick, it’s quite easy to think so. I hope Hughes can sell sell sell this year to make up for last year.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Compared to getting a roster upgrade for a playoff run, a first round pick (20s and above) is very cheap indeed.

It blew my mind every time tight wad Bergevin would refuse to part with draft capital for a roster upgrade. It’s blowing my mind that Hughes isn’t parting with Anderson and isn’t acquiring roster upgrade. Both GMs suffered from wanting to place one ass on two chairs.

Monahan can net a first round pick, it’s quite easy to think so. I hope Hughes can sell sell sell this year to make up for last year.

Was even better when he'd just use that 1st on a player that ended up crappy.

By 2016 any first that wasn't a good one should have been dealt for help, but he's a tool.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Compared to getting a roster upgrade for a playoff run, a first round pick (20s and above) is very cheap indeed.

It blew my mind every time tight wad Bergevin would refuse to part with draft capital for a roster upgrade. It’s blowing my mind that Hughes isn’t parting with Anderson and isn’t acquiring roster upgrade. Both GMs suffered from wanting to place one ass on two chairs.

Monahan can net a first round pick, it’s quite easy to think so. I hope Hughes can sell sell sell this year to make up for last year.

It was unfortunate that the only players who could have been traded last year were hurt. Hopefully HuGo will have better luck this year.

 

[Runner77]

It blew my mind every time tight wad Bergevin would refuse to part with draft capital for a roster upgrade. It’s blowing my mind that Hughes isn’t parting with Anderson and isn’t acquiring roster upgrade. Both GMs suffered from wanting to place one ass on two chairs.

Monahan can net a first round pick, it’s quite easy to think so. I hope Hughes can sell sell sell this year to make up for last year.

How do you know that Hughes is refusing to part with what, without being privy to private exchanges?

Or that he’s not seeking roster upgrades?

Or that he hasn’t been able to trade Anderson for any number of reasons, including a lower than sought return?

Why should he « part » with Anderson rather than wait for the right opportunity? It’s not as if Anderson is a toxic asset, or is dependent on a skill (speed) that will drop off preciously. Quite the opposite, the more the cap rises (as it’s expected it will by greater increments as of next year), the more attractive Anderson’s contract becomes.

Finally, as much as I love Monahan, there is nothing « easy » about him. He’s pieced and held together by duct tape and hope. He also had a promising start last year until his injury history reared its ugly head again.

Monahan may be too fragile to be healthy by the trading deadline. I would not bet on that horse just cause he had 5 injury-free games so far this season. He’s a long shot — not in terms of being productive but in terms of putting himself in a position to be.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Nobody is giving up a 1st or 2nd for Monahan

At this pace you are right , they are gonna give a 1st and a 2nd for a top center good on the dot and offensively

 

[calder candidate]

Monahan is making everything look easy, great on faceoff, 5on 5, PK, PP and basically all team can fit him in there cap at the TDL. If he is healthy at the TDL there aren’t that many comparable that will be available he is definitely getting a 1st.

 

[le_sean]

I was going to say Allen could interest the Oilers but then saw he has a 7 team NTC which obviously means he’s not going anywhere else in Canada.

 

[Scriptor]

I don't think there's any chance in hell of Monahan returning a first.

Good. Now that you've spoken, I guess it's settled. Thanks for chiming in.

You've basically said nothing.

 

[Scriptor]

Monahan is making everything look easy, great on faceoff, 5on 5, PK, PP and basically all team can fit him in there cap at the TDL. If he is healthy at the TDL there aren’t that many comparable that will be available he is definitely getting a 1st.

If healthy, Monahan is basically a second line C that a contender would be adding as a 3rd one C and injury insurance for the top-6, able to take key F/Os with a 70% win percentage.

If Savard was worth a 1st round pick as a 3rd pairing RHD, a healthy Monahan, at the trade deadline is worth that and a good prospect, at the very least.

Monahan would have a greater overall impact than Toffoli had when he was traded, IMO.

 

[HuGort]

I really wonder if it is true anybody offered a 1st for Anderson. Possible because because some GMs value inputs (size skating) more than the output but 5.5m for 4 more years is not great if he produces like he does right now.

Which team would need Matheson and be ready to pay a 1st for him ?

I would put Matheson above a Chiarot who returned a first. Anderson widely reported last 2 trade deadline Habs received big offers for him but Hughes wouldn't part with Anderson. He must want his size and physicality on small team.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I would put Matheson above a Chiarot who returned a first. Anderson widely reported last 2 trade deadline Habs received big offers for him but Hughes wouldn't part with Anderson. He must want his size and physicality on small team.

Matheson and Chiarot are different, usually teams already have their PMDs and are searching for desfensive Dmen able to play across the pairings.
Hughes loves story telling a lot (see Lehkonen, Petry…), I would not be surprised if no offer happened.

 

[HuGort]

Matheson and Chiarot are different, usually teams already have their PMDs and are searching for desfensive Dmen able to play across the pairings.
Hughes loves story telling a lot (see Lehkonen, Petry…), I would not be surprised if no offer happened.

Big fast physical 20 goal player nearing playoffs imagine offers were full blown retail +25%. If he means a cup or even extra round it's worth it

 

[RationalExpectations]

Big fast physical 20 goal player nearing playoffs imagine offers were full blown retail +25%. If he means a cup or even extra round it's worth it

Need 5.5m cap space and won t develop chemistry with anybody but I guess if he gets on a lucky streak on the third line it will be worth it. But then there are 3 more seasons where he won t be very consistent most likely…