HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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I think you want out of town, or former habs.No more Bambi comments? , Where is that same energy that you guys had when KK dipped , where did it all go , hella quiet now?
I also totally expect the Canes to finish the season with 7 players finish at, or above a point per game pace.
I see far more rational/value for the caps to do that than the Habs...
Makes no sense for us at this stage, whereas the caps would add a player with more utility to them (Armia >> Mantha in a 14min bottom 6 role) while freeing up 2+M in cap room this year.
The extra year is largely irrelevant given how much the cap is going up next season. If Armia doesn't prove useful, they can easily waive him, or trade him with retention if needed, to reclaim most of that cap space should they need it.
With how bad Mantha has been in preseason/year start, he's got far more negative value than Armia imo
No thanks unless there's a considerable sweetener added to Mantha at this point.
He's as likely to be a waive & Laval candidate with the way he's playing as he is to beat out Pearson or Ylonen for top 9 minutes
calder candidate
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What is the return in term of value
Picks, A prospect, B prospect, cap dump, retention.
Monahan
Pearson
Savard
Anderson
Dvorak
Picks, A prospect, B prospect, cap dump, retention.
Monahan
Pearson
Savard
Anderson
Dvorak
Nico Cauzuki
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GMs value vets like Monahan,Savard and Pearson for a playoffs run so probably around 2nd/3rd round picks for them
Could be wrong but I don't see Anderson or Dvorak having any value
salbutera
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There will absolutely be interest but players on multi year deals rarely get dealt in season - they’re usually reserved for the summer
HuGort
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I would move Matheson if we get good return? Future on left side I see as Guhle, Hutson and Wifi.
Nico Cauzuki
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I don't think so matter fact I'm sure HuGo would trade him quick if they had a decent offer
hes a big boy that can skate but he shows up 1 game outta 5 and is overpaid for a few more years
not a fan
Kudo Shinichi
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If he stays healthy and continues with his good play, he's going to be worth a lot at the tdl
salbutera
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How many trades of players on multi year contracts have taken place during a season over the past 5-10 seasons?
I can only recall a couple of deals for players who had 1-more season on their present contract. Toffoli had what 2-left? Can’t think is any other deals for 2+ seasons
Agree , that stat alone is worth a 1st for a club contender , especially with his salary meaning won’t stop that team from adding more pieces
VirginiaMtlExpat
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The other team better overpay, cause I'd want to sign him otherwise if he can stick around this season.
Skip Bayless
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I would, but I think it happens next year. We cross our fingers so that he still looks like a semi-competent defender by then.
Adriatic
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There would be a royal rumble between NHL gms if Anderson is made available.
HuGort
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Anderson and Matheson I'd like to move by trade deadline. Gain 2 first round picks and free up 10 million in caproom for next summer
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Plenty of team can use a vet RD that play reliable D, PK. With 2 years left and maybe a taking a cap dump he should be valuable 1st+4th again if he is on the block at the TDL. Front runner would be EDM, BUF and TOR
Monahan is killing it everywhere, PP, PK, faceoff, 5 on 5. He can basically play anywhere in the top 9 and all playoff team would benefit and they are able to fit is cap hit. We should be getting a king ransom 1st+ prospect + another pick depending on the strength of the prospect. Front runner would be BOS, COL, CAR and EDM.
Pearson outplaying all expectations could be a bottom 6 for a playoff team the cap hit might be a issue but we should be getting a 4th or 5th and best case would be a 3rd.
Monahan is killing it everywhere, PP, PK, faceoff, 5 on 5. He can basically play anywhere in the top 9 and all playoff team would benefit and they are able to fit is cap hit. We should be getting a king ransom 1st+ prospect + another pick depending on the strength of the prospect. Front runner would be BOS, COL, CAR and EDM.
Pearson outplaying all expectations could be a bottom 6 for a playoff team the cap hit might be a issue but we should be getting a 4th or 5th and best case would be a 3rd.
Let s see if Monahan and Pearson can stay healthy. Health has always been the issue for them. Just look at last year for Monahan.
Regarding Matheson the issue is defensive consistency, don t see a lot of contenders really needing an offense first LHD second pair right now.
Savard is the most likely trade candidate given the fact that he is what teams usually look for at TDL. The question is whether the Habs keep him one more season because there are not many experienced vets on this team s D
I really wonder if it is true anybody offered a 1st for Anderson. Possible because because some GMs value inputs (size skating) more than the output but 5.5m for 4 more years is not great if he produces like he does right now.
Which team would need Matheson and be ready to pay a 1st for him ?
DAChampion
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Oilers need a goalie. Oilers need to dump Campbell’s contract. They are hooped. Kane bitching about ice time. Nurse looks horrible. Again. This team is a dumpster fire with the 2 best players in the world and not much else.
Ok but then they need to dump Ceci and I am nit sure they ll pay what MTL would want to give Matheson and take Ceci
Nico Cauzuki
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teams could of showed interest in the offseason HuGo has been around for 2 summers now
who seriously wants a 3rd liner thats very inconsistent and his paid 5.5 mill for another 4 years
i would easily trade him today if we had a decent offer thats too much money for too long go post in the general forums and see which fans would be interested in trading for Anderson im sure you will see little interest unless theres alot of cap coming back
nobody believes that
Draisitil for Primeau, Anderson and a 2nd.
Monahan should be one of the highly sought asset amongst contenders at TDL; Habs can reasonably hope to fetch at least a (late) 1st round pick as it stands. If possible, the Habs should accept a forward cap dump in the Monahan trade to further optimize his value.
Pearson could be intriguing asset at TDL as well as it stands, could maybe fetch a (late) 2nd round pick, provided however the Habs use a salary retention on him (either their own last remaining spot or by renting one from another team for a 4th round pick). Again, if possible, the Habs should accept a forward cap dump in the Pearson trade to further optimize his value.
With Dach out, Monahan traded at TDL and Reinbacher in Europe, Dvorak and Savard would both require a significant package to be moved this year rather than next (off)season, when they’ll both become expiring UFA and easier to trade. Unless a (late) 1st is involved and the Habs don’t have to pay more than a 3rd for renting a salary retention spot over 2 years, it’d be optimal to wait until 2024-2025 before putting them on the market.
With many years left, Anderson would have to be traded in the offseason, without retention. A team would have to give a very good ELC/RFA player + 2nd to avoid giving up a 1st round pick + prospect.
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