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If the Oilers were to trade for a Habs goalie they would go after Montembeault. I don’t see how Allen or Primeau would help them win now.
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No team will actually trade for Hart if any type of long suspension is pendingThe league could give penalty to those players (being banned or suspended for a long time)
Habs-Oilers-Rangers
Primeau to Oilers
Broberg to Rangers
Lafrenière to Habs
Three guys with potential who take a little bit too long to realise it are swaped.
Maybe throw in a Habs 2nd pick to the Rangers to soften the blow.
ExactlyNo team will actually trade for Hart if any type of long suspension is pending
We have to add.
Our best young expendable trade chips for a player like Lafreniere are:
- Primeau
- Engstrom
- Barron
- Norlinder
- Harris
- Beck
Not sure whether a package involving any of those pieces could get a deal done. Maybe the Calgary 1st is the center piece. But management has to have their own projection to see if they belive in Lafreniere enough to give that up.
Because he was the # 1 overall pick,a Quebecois and they think Marty can wave his magic wand and turn him into the superstar he was suppose to be instead of what he isGeez why do we want lafreniere anyway. The guy's a dog.
Rangers fans think Lafreniere's value now is a mid 1st round pick. So Barron + Calgary/Florida1st seems to be greater than or equal to a mid 1st. Right now it projects to be Florida's 1st in 2025, assuming Florida make the playoffs in 2025.Maybe we could just go one on one aquire Lafreniere and give the Rangers one of Barron/Norlinder/Harris and Calgary's pick?
Because he was the # 1 overall pick,a Quebecois and they think Marty can wave his magic wand and turn him into the superstar he was suppose to be instead of what he is
Certainly not the flames first . Not now anywaysWe have to add.
Our best young expendable trade chips for a player like Lafreniere are:
- Primeau
- Engstrom
- Barron
- Norlinder
- Harris
- Beck
Not sure whether a package involving any of those pieces could get a deal done. Maybe the Calgary 1st is the center piece. But management has to have their own projection to see if they belive in Lafreniere enough to give that up.
Lol you don’t give all of that for a goalie.To MTL: Askarov
To NAS: Engstrom + Barron + Bogdan konyushkov+ Trudeau + Primeau
We have the assets to get Askarov, perhaps even without giving up one of Guhle, Xhekaj, Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher. Is he the guy though?
Drouin left , we need a new oneGeez why do we want lafreniere anyway. The guy's a dog.
Just proves we can get Askarov and still have our dcore of the future, and give up even less than that:Lol you don’t give all of that for a goalie.
You forgot to add Caufield, Dach, Newhook. And Slaf.To MTL: Askarov
To NAS: Engstrom + Barron + Bogdan konyushkov+ Trudeau + Primeau
We have the assets to get Askarov, perhaps even without giving up one of Guhle, Xhekaj, Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher. Is he the guy though?
Says the guy who thought the Dach, Newhook, and Matheson trades were bad...oh and called Slaf Armia 2.0. Bad judge of players, so save it.Drouin left , we need a new one
Four D prospects!? Are you nuts?To MTL: Askarov
To NAS: Engstrom + Barron + Bogdan konyushkov+ Trudeau + Primeau
We have the assets to get Askarov, perhaps even without giving up one of Guhle, Xhekaj, Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher. Is he the guy though?
Taking on that horrible contract alone would cost them Holloway and a first at least (probably an extra second more). So where is the value for Montembeault?I’d make a call to Edmonton and offer them an olive branch - for some premium assets - as it’s an open secret that Ken Holland is retiring after this year, and will want to go out with a bang.
To Edmonton: Samuel Montembeault, Jake Evans
To Montreal: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, 2025 1st round pick.
Why they do it? Oilers need some cap relief and moving Campbell’s contract gives them room to make some more upgrades to the roster, while Evans helps them in their bottom 9 as a reliable forward with speed. Giving up Holloway hurts them but it’s a small price in the big scheme if it gets the Oilers to a cup.
Habs take on some major cap and term in Campbell, but are compensated nicely with a premium young talent that fits the rebuild, and another first to add to the stockpile. Allen gets moved in the off season, while Holloway comes in and gets a shot with Suzuki/Caufield as his game of speed/strength/ability would complement them nicely and he played with Caufield in college. I’d see the lines as:
Holloway - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
Harvey-Pinard - Monahan - Anderson
Pearson - Dvorak - Ylonen
Gallagher
Pezzetta
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Kovacevic
Xhekaj - Harris
Campbell
Primeau
It's more to show we have the assets to get Askarov if we want him, without sacrificing the future core:Four D prospects!? Are you nuts?
I’d make a call to Edmonton and offer them an olive branch - for some premium assets - as it’s an open secret that Ken Holland is retiring after this year, and will want to go out with a bang.
To Edmonton: Samuel Montembeault, Jake Evans
To Montreal: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, 2025 1st round pick.
Why they do it? Oilers need some cap relief and moving Campbell’s contract gives them room to make some more upgrades to the roster, while Evans helps them in their bottom 9 as a reliable forward with speed. Giving up Holloway hurts them but it’s a small price in the big scheme if it gets the Oilers to a cup.
Habs take on some major cap and term in Campbell, but are compensated nicely with a premium young talent that fits the rebuild, and another first to add to the stockpile. Allen gets moved in the off season, while Holloway comes in and gets a shot with Suzuki/Caufield as his game of speed/strength/ability would complement them nicely and he played with Caufield in college. I’d see the lines as:
Holloway - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
Harvey-Pinard - Monahan - Anderson
Pearson - Dvorak - Ylonen
Gallagher
Pezzetta
Matheson - Savard
Guhle - Kovacevic
Xhekaj - Harris
Campbell
Primeau
I disagree with that evaluation, Montembeault is 26 years old now with a career high of 16 wins. He doesn’t have a ton of value, other than as a cheap contract and possible potential. You could probably squeeze Lavoie out of them.Taking on that horrible contract alone would cost them Holloway and a first at least (probably an extra second more). So where is the value for Montembeault?
We wouldn’t be giving up much in terms of “substantial assets,” so how would you tweak it to reflect value and realistic cost they’d pay?Holloway + EDM 2025 1st hardly begins to cover the incentive cost of moving Campbell’s contract; I don’t see how Edmonton would be in a position to ask any substantial asset besides cap space to a team willing to consider it.
There is not much available. He is better than what they have and Habs #1 goaltender. They would have to make it worthwhile for the Habs to move him.I disagree with that evaluation, Montembeault is 26 years old now with a career high of 16 wins. He doesn’t have a ton of value, other than as a cheap contract and possible potential. You could probably squeeze Lavoie out of them.
We wouldn’t be giving up much in terms of “substantial assets,” so how would you tweak it to reflect value and realistic cost they’d pay?
Thats a terrible take lmao. On top of that, Suzuki will be 29 in 5 years, thats a short window to win. The fact that you think dumping Campbell would only cost them basically Holloway is delusional at best (plus the fact that Newhooks value is already more than what we paid for him).I'd give Newhook + Montembeault for Campbell + EDM 2024 1st rounder + EDM2025 1st rounder + Holloway.
I honestly think Newhook + Montembeault genuinely help EDMin a Cup run than the offer of friggin' Jake Evans with Montembeault.
Newhook has the speed to keep with McDavid, for example, but he can also be a solid third line C with offensive upside, or a solid 2nd line winger.
That's a trade, ultimately, of :
A late 1st round pick + an early 2nd round pick (what we paid for Newhook) + Montembeault
-FOR-
2 late first round picks + Holloway + Campbell (poison pill)
Do that and, with all the draft capital in 2025, imagine what we can land as a young top end talent up front in a trade !?
Campbell has 4 years left at a 5M per year cap hit. 5 years is when I expected to make some serious damage in the first place. Campbell will no longer be an issue at that point.
That’s a good point. Especially at his price tag. What would you suggest to tweak the deal?There is not much available. He is better than what they have and Habs #1 goaltender. They would have to make it worthwhile for the Habs to move him.