1. The veteran goalie is not good - he helps the tank
2. You bring back Monahan to get a draft pick at the trade deadline
3. You don't trade Anderson unless you get a very good offer
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon
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2. You bring back Monahan to get a draft pick at the trade deadline
3. You don't trade Anderson unless you get a very good offer
sampollock
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If the NHL would open this up, it would stop all the guessing for who did what
I agree that we need élite power up front. Aslo agree that EP or Keller would be great addition. Elias Pettersson will ask 11-12 millions a year for 8 years. Keller (5'10'') would not help our small roster.
I'm not totally against signing one of them. I prefer trying to trade for Lafrenière right now. Big winger with talent who cost a lot less in salary for a couple of years. Here's a trade proposal i've reed lately :
Farrell + Beck + Harris
Vs
Lafrenière
Sterling Archer
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Hopefully the BargainBin years are over. I don’t mind paying a kings ransom for a top 10 player if that’s what you need. Can’t keep all the prospects and picks we have anyways. May as well maximize their value. Add Laff too if you can but he’s not elite level yet and Habs need some certainty. Can’t only trade for reclamation projects.
Keller won't hurt you, even if he is just 5'10", because he has the speed that elevates a smaller player beyond the size handicap.
Being the left wing on Dach's, line would provide the scoring touch required to maximize exploiting Kirby's skillset as a physical but skilled, puck possession, playmaking pivot.
Add someone with hockey IQ, skill, complementary puck retrieval and possession skills like Roy and you have atop end offensive line that can match up against other teams' top lines because it also has defensive acumen to justify the ice time.
Keller - Dach - Roy
Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Evans - Heineman
Would I be forgetting someone?
Obviously, someoftheyoungeronesin this lineup need to mature some more before the actual impact this lineup can have actually manifests itsef.
I'd consider Newhook at C, rather, on the third line, because Monahan, replaced as a winger once he's gone is a much easier proposition. Newhook has already shown some chemistry with Anderson and maybe that could become RHP- Newhook - Anderson once Monahan gets moved at the deadline.
Keller - Dach - Roy
Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
RHP- Newhook - Anderson
Farrell - Evans - Heineman
Play Farrell with Heinemann in Laval in the meantime to develop some chemistry, if possible. Otherwise, I think we might end up with a very capable C/W in Davidson for the 4th line down the road.
As I said, I'm not totally agains't Keller. He is a great player.
But, I'm not sure that it won't hurt us on size, if the goal is to go late in the Stanley cup series.
Keller, Caufiled, Farrell, Hutson (soon), Newhook, it's a lot of small players on a roaster.
I just prefer Lafreniere, for the reasons that I wrote earlier (cost, salary, Q).
I would trade Anderson (i don't think he is here to stay until the end of his contract) for a good pick and/or a young forward (if possible, with gritt or size).
His value is good right now. Dvorak before the TDL also if the return is ok (or next year).
This year
Lafreniere - Suzuki - Caufiled
Slaf - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Dvorak (or Newhook, or a young forward)) - Gallagher/Heineman
Ylonen/Pezzeta - Evans/Davidson - Heineman/Roy
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Is there any reason people here are discussing Keller?
I only ask because he'd be incredibly costly to acquire and it sounds like he's pretty happy in Arizona.
I only ask because he'd be incredibly costly to acquire and it sounds like he's pretty happy in Arizona.
26Mats
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Where did you read this?
Beck for Lafreniere straight up is an interesting proposal. It really depends on one's read on Laf - and Beck.
salbutera
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Whoever trades for Hart (assuming he’s dealt) is fully aware of where things stand wrt 2018 Team Canada scandal - meaning no involvement
sampollock
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Kobe Armstrong
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I got a trade for yall
Montembeault + Kovacevic + conditional 1st for Evan Bouchard
Hughes can put some conditions on the 1st to give us some options about which pick we send (CGY 2025, etc.)
Edmonton gets cap space, a better goalie, and a good replacement defender. Our D pairings become
Guhle-Bouchard
Matheson-Savard
Xhekaj-Harris
Barron/Norlinder/Lindstrom
Montembeault + Kovacevic + conditional 1st for Evan Bouchard
Hughes can put some conditions on the 1st to give us some options about which pick we send (CGY 2025, etc.)
Edmonton gets cap space, a better goalie, and a good replacement defender. Our D pairings become
Guhle-Bouchard
Matheson-Savard
Xhekaj-Harris
Barron/Norlinder/Lindstrom
I think it’s safe to say that the BargainBin era is definitely behind us; Hughes knows where he’s going and his modus operandi so far is quite sound.
Here’s my humble take on what we should expect from him if he stays the course:
By TDL 2024:
- Pearson traded, either with retention or with a cap dump coming back;
- If still available, remaining salary retention slot leveraged;
- One of Monahan/Dvorak traded, likely the former;
Draft 2024 / Offseason 2024 :
- Habs should again be in a position to pick one of the top F prospect available, especially with an unusually D-heavy top-10;
- Habs leverage pick(s) + D(s) to acquire another RFA forward with top-6 upsides and/or a RFA goalie with NHL-starter upsides;
- Habs stay clear off the UFA market, unless somehow Monahan is open to come back on another short-term contract for further mentoring purposes;
- Habs regain 2 salary retention slots and use them on either Allen (ASAP) and/or Savard and Dvorak by TDL 2025
Offseason 2025 and beyond :
As it stands, I think Hughes’ bargaining power should reach his apex around draft day 2025; could be the make or brake moment of the current rebuild!
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Bouchard got 40 points playing on the PP with a 150, 130, and 100 point lineup that set the record for best PP in history after Barrie was traded. He's pretty meh defensively and the Oilers have been getting caved with his promotion off of the bottom pairing this year. I don't think he'd be slotting in top pairing here.
The league could give penalty to those players (being banned or suspended for a long time)
NYR won't let Laffy go for Beck (a future 3rd C). Lafreniere still got star potential and a 40 pts producer last season.
You will have to give more than that. Period.
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Bouchard won't move from Edmonton. He is the future offensive first pairing D there.
Or, you will have to give a lot more ...
26Mats
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That's fine. I have no problem giving Farrell and Harris as well. I was just speaking of Bexk versus Laf. Many here didn't want to give up Beck for Dubois, smh.
But where did you hear this proposal?
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6’2 centre who can notch 35-40 goals / 100+ points per season and who is only 24?
That’s the very definition of a unicorn. Paying him what he’s worth would not be the issue. How seriously would Hughes want to pursue him and what’s he willing to cough up in terms of assets, is the litmus test. If Dach continues to get injured, he may be someone to build an offer around.
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Kimota
ROY DU NORD!!!
Habs-Oilers-Rangers
Primeau to Oilers
Broberg to Rangers
Lafrenière to Habs
Three guys with potential who take a little bit too long to realise it are swaped.
Maybe throw in a Habs 2nd pick to the Rangers to soften the blow.
Primeau to Oilers
Broberg to Rangers
Lafrenière to Habs
Three guys with potential who take a little bit too long to realise it are swaped.
Maybe throw in a Habs 2nd pick to the Rangers to soften the blow.
HuGort
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Primeau for Lafreniere be steal of the century
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