HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

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Anderson's value will probably drop as he ages.
As a two year rental 32 and 33 years of age, Anderson's value won't bottom out, especially with the Cap having risen. Anderson will be like Anderson today at 4M.

There indefinitely value there.
 
Anderson today? Yeah maybe but most likely he'll succumb to the aging process.
Anderson is not a perma-bruiser but a selective one. He knows he can’t sustain a heavy physical game day in and day out and I believe he said as much last year.

Hence why he’ll ramp up his physical game internittently which leads me to believe he may not wear down as quickly in his older years.
 
Anderson is not a perma-bruiser but a selective one. He knows he can’t sustain a heavy physical game day in and day out and I believe he said as much last year.

Hence why he’ll ramp up his physical game internittently which leads me to believe he may not wear down as quickly in his older years.
Watching him coast so many nights makes me wonder if it’s not because he’s harbouring some injury but given the consistency of inconsistent play, it’s more likely just him.
 
I would put a package for a elite RW

Ghule + Kidney + First pick 2025 (worse between MTL and CGY)
We could spare Ghule with the line up of LHD comming up

This year
Matheson
Trudeau/Harris
Wifi

in 3 years
Matheson/Hutson - Reinbacher
Trudeau/Engstrom - Mailloux
Wifi/Struble/Harris - Bodgan/Barron

We might even draft a LHD in 2024,, plenty of good ones , Kiviharju or Dickenson could be a good one
 
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I would put a package for a elite RW

Ghule + Kidney + First pick 2025 (worse between MTL and CGY)
We could spare Ghule with the line up of LHD comming up

This year
Matheson
Trudeau/Harris
Wifi

in 3 years
Matheson/Hutson - Reinbacher
Trudeau/Engstrom - Mailloux
Wifi/Struble/Harris - Bodgan/Barron

We might even draft a LHD in 2024,, plenty of good ones , Kiviharju or Dickenson could be a good one
actually no, we can't spare Guhle. Nobody in the coming lineup has proven they will be Guhle. And I thought most on here already learned that trading great, young d for wingers is suicide
 
I would put a package for a elite RW

Ghule + Kidney + First pick 2025 (worse between MTL and CGY)
We could spare Ghule with the line up of LHD comming up

This year
Matheson
Trudeau/Harris
Wifi

in 3 years
Matheson/Hutson - Reinbacher
Trudeau/Engstrom - Mailloux
Wifi/Struble/Harris - Bodgan/Barron

We might even draft a LHD in 2024,, plenty of good ones , Kiviharju or Dickenson could be a good one
Guhle is the one we shouldn’t move before any others
 
I think they could fit Joseph in cap wise (I could be wrong, I'm very confused by how roster and LTIR rules works), but they would have to either put Dvorak/Price in offseason LTIR, or be willing to put Jake Allen on waivers.
 
Yeah, but a lot of those forwards suck and Joseph would be an upgrade on those. Getting paid a 1st AND you upgrade on a few of your forwards. Seems pretty good to me
Ok but what do you do with those forwards? We currently have 14 forwards (Dvorak injured or else it would be 15) that are part of the main team and we are going to assume that none of the guys like Farrell/Roy/Heineman will make the team regardless of how well they perform in preseason.

So we would have 16 forwards on the NHL team with Joseph, and even if we assume that at least one of them will be injured for the year, it's still way too many forwards.

I think the Pearson trade proves that Hughes would have already made the trade for Joseph if such an offer was available to us
 
Ok but what do you do with those forwards? We currently have 14 forwards (Dvorak injured or else it would be 15) that are part of the main team and we are going to assume that none of the guys like Farrell/Roy/Heineman will make the team regardless of how well they perform in preseason.

So we would have 16 forwards on the NHL team with Joseph, and even if we assume that at least one of them will be injured for the year, it's still way too many forwards.

I think the Pearson trade proves that Hughes would have already made the trade for Joseph if such an offer was available to us
Pearson deal added under 2 mill for cap hit, while Joseph adds more and wouldn't be able to send a contract back, when they need to move people out.

Ylonen can be waived, or dealt for a 7th, so that's down to 14. Waive, or potentially underbelly a dman, so instead of getting a 4th for a player you get a 6th, or something, but you got a 1st, hopefully Detroit's and that's more than likely will be a good 1st. Top 15.
 
Pearson deal added under 2 mill for cap hit, while Joseph adds more and wouldn't be able to send a contract back, when they need to move people out.

Ylonen can be waived, or dealt for a 7th, so that's down to 14. Waive, or potentially underbelly a dman, so instead of getting a 4th for a player you get a 6th, or something, but you got a 1st, hopefully Detroit's and that's more than likely will be a good 1st. Top 15.
Why would a team pay a 7th when they can claim him for free?

I think they could fit Joseph in cap wise (I could be wrong, I'm very confused by how roster and LTIR rules works), but they would have to either put Dvorak/Price in offseason LTIR, or be willing to put Jake Allen on waivers.
Pearson is done and will go on LTIR. Gally can also be asked to sit and be placed on LTIR. He's pretty much done also.
 
Why would a team pay a 7th when they can claim him for free?


Pearson is done and will go on LTIR. Gally can also be asked to sit and be placed on LTIR. He's pretty much done also.
If they think a team ahead of them in the waiver wire might grab him, but that's an outlier case.

Usually players only get value from being waived if they pass through, so their new team can keep them down in the A until they need them for the NHL.
 
Pearson deal added under 2 mill for cap hit, while Joseph adds more and wouldn't be able to send a contract back, when they need to move people out.

Ylonen can be waived, or dealt for a 7th, so that's down to 14. Waive, or potentially underbelly a dman, so instead of getting a 4th for a player you get a 6th, or something, but you got a 1st, hopefully Detroit's and that's more than likely will be a good 1st. Top 15.
Ylonen has way more value than a 7th.
They're not gonna waive him.
 
Anderson's name is out there but probably not for a 1st and/or prospect or whatever we would usually get. I think if they move him, he will be part of a bigger trade to get something we target.
I hope so. Anderson is our best trade chip and he does have good value. Him in a package could get us a nice asset coming back and so this is how I would move him, preferably not 1 for 1. No rush to trade him.
 
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I doubt Ylonen gets waived. He's a potential middle six player, but his skill needs to be evaluated at the NHL level.

More likely one or two injuries just happen during preseason.

If not that, they could send Slafkovsky and RHP to Laval.
 
I doubt Ylonen gets waived. He's a potential middle six player, but his skill needs to be evaluated at the NHL level.

More likely one or two injuries just happen during preseason.

If not that, they could send Slafkovsky and RHP to Laval.
No way does Ylonen deserve to be given more opportunity than RHP. Nada.

Slaf is a whole other question and it is complicated by his bonuses and the LTIR, but I just don't see the upside in Ylonen. Good candidate for a trade for a younger prospect or a 2nd-3rd pick. We have Roy, Heineman, maybe Farrell with more upside for a middle six role. It makes no sense to de-motivate RHP in favour of Ylonen.

Jesse may get his chance due to injuries but I don't see NHL impact, just bland tofu.
 
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actually no, we can't spare Guhle. Nobody in the coming lineup has proven they will be Guhle. And I thought most on here already learned that trading great, young d for wingers is suicide
Sergachev for Drouin was awful, and McDonagh for Gomez (not a winger) was also terrible.

However the idea here would be to target a FIRST liner 5 years younger than Gomez was, and way better than Drouin was. A guy who has already put up way more than 53 points like Drouin had, and with more GOALS in him.

Not that it would even work, but trading value for an Elias Pettersson or equivalent talent is a whole different proposition than 19 year old Sergachev for Drouin.
 
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