How would anyone know what he is like in the room? Zegras is an elite player. 65 points with only 2 other good forwards on the team and 1 was a rookie. But they have a lot of good prospects. Zegras should be putting up 100 pts soon.
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon
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The Great Weal
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Lol any evidence to actually back this up? Teammates rave about him nonstop and former ones like Caufield love hanging out with him.
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Van will match any offer sheet - in fact they’re probably hoping some team is foolish enough to to send over an offer sheet, makes the Nucks life easier as opposed to trying to courting him to stay
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I have season tickets for the US NTDP (the arena is 5 minutes from our home), so I watched the Hughes - Caufield combo for two years.
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If Connor decides to leave Winnipeg, what does it take to snag him here?
He's a gamer and would kill it next to Dach or Suzy...
I'd start with Slaf Barron and Armia for cap purpose.
Who says no?
He's a gamer and would kill it next to Dach or Suzy...
I'd start with Slaf Barron and Armia for cap purpose.
Who says no?
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Of course there’s no evidence. But you have to put yourself in the mindset of a Habs homer: every other young player who can be acquired is worthless and problematic, Slafkovsky is extremely valuable and high-potential.
Zegras got over 60pts on an awful team, that means he’s not a gamer, obviously.
No thanks.
I'd much rather stick with Slaf and see what he blossoms into. His upside is unique and, if (granted a big if) he even sniffs at his high bar potential, represents an asset far harder to find than what Zegras's potential represents
Zegras "already" an elite centre ?
Career high of 65pts & 23 goals (to go with -24 & 88 pims while not being a physically imposing player in any fashion, nor a defensively astute one...)
When did that become the elite threshold?
He's got some upside, but elite C? Far from that at this point.
That offer is WAY too rich for me, even worse than Slaf 1:1
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Pettersson is the only player who really interests me in next couple years of free agency. He fits with our age structure, brings size and elite offensive skills. That is what we really need and we should aim for it really hard.
Vancouver is just a lost team, they will not be a contender in near future and I do not think EP would commit long-term to such bad team. It could be similar situation to PLD when RFA wants out.
I know it would cost a lot, but we have the depth, now we need top quality. Horvat and PLD trades show it might be possible.
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Kyle Connor is a 26 year old 90pt player with a career avg ppg of 70pts/season. In the last four years he's gotten 73 in 71, 50 in 56, 93 in 79, and 80 in 82.
Will Slafkovsky ever get 70pts a season? We don't know but he wasn't expected to or projected to by most pre-draft or post-draft commentary. Slafkovsky's game isn't much of a bruiser powerforward type either, so I don't see why anybody wouldn't want Kyle Connor if the price was Slafkovsky, an unestablished d-man prospect, and a cap dump. WPG clearly says no.
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It would be next to impossible to pry Kyle Connor out of Winnipeg without giving scoring back. The dude is super resilient consistent and on a great contract for three more years. So we are talking about a minimum of Dach a quality roster ready Dman and probably a high end prospect or a pick. I don't think we'd move Suzuki or Caufield who are also on favorable contracts and I doubt we'd want to move Dach at this point before we see if he puts it all together and shows he can remain healthy. Even if Connor forces their hand think of how many teams would be salivating over this piece. Not a realistic trade scenario for the Habs.
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Seeing how strong we will become on D, I think I'd start focusing on maybe trading some D prospects for a young forward with upside, seems to be the way to go for us.
Maybe something around for a Dvorsky type/caliber of prospect or even target one of the many young forwards Buffalo prospects
Maybe something around for a Dvorsky type/caliber of prospect or even target one of the many young forwards Buffalo prospects
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Of course, Connor is a great player, but it does not make too much sense for us. He is couple years older than Suzuki and his contract ends in 3 years. By that time, we will still not be a contender and he would ask for huge money. I think 2026 is when we start to make impact in the league, just need to stay patient.
With his speed he can be good for another 6 or 7 years which works for me.
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Not that I think Connor is remotely sensible to even talk about but I don't understand this approach. Since when is standing pat while your team marginally improves ever a good idea? Players are in their prime in their early-mid 20s, if the Habs don't move quickly to get into the playoffs and regain playoff experience they might as well sell this core off before they waste everybody's time. See how much the Leafs struggled even with much better players than the Habs -- a team needs to learn to win and build on top of that.
What do we expect to see from 2026? A playoff appearance... okay and what if they lose in the first round?
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Connor scored 5 points, 2 goals in 20 games as a 20 year old.
I thought it meant a player was a bust
Why anyone would want him at 26-27 years old? Ah that’s why, surprisingly you have to let player develop.
I thought it meant a player was a bust
Why anyone would want him at 26-27 years old? Ah that’s why, surprisingly you have to let player develop.
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In his rookie season, which was his D+2, he got 44 in 52 in the AHL it's funny you didn't mention that bit. Would Slafkovsky have gotten 44 in 52gp? Not last year, that's for sure. In Connor's D+1 he had 71 in 38 in the NCAA.Connor scored 5 points, 2 goals in 20 games as a 20 year old.
I thought it meant a player was a bust
Why anyone would want him at 26-27 years old? Ah that’s why, surprisingly you have to let player develop.
Totally different circumstances, totally different players. You have to let players develop, which is why he shouldn't have been rushed in the first place.
Nobody's called Slafkovsky a bust, much less me. I wanted him in the AHL so he could play in a less intense and overwhelming environment, you can calm down now.
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I'm all for going after Connor, but he isn't a 90 point player. Gotta do it more than once
He's basically another 70 point player, which the Habs need as they don't even have a 70 point player to show how bad the outlook for the forward section looks at this moment
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Problem with all those guys except Pettersson is that they are not better than what we already have.
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I agree.
The Habs do need offensive talent, but they should only offer a lot for a great player. They already have several good players. They're lacking great ones.
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Habs says no. Slaf should not be moved for a 26YO.
Picks and prospects ideally. Not roster pieces. (Well who cares about Armia tho)
2024 1st, CGY 1st, Couple of 2nd, harris, xhekaj, mailloux, barron, engstrom, struble, etc.
We have enough pieces to make a substantial offer with quality pieces, bet higher than the competition without sacrificing Slaf.
Totally agree.
If for some reasons, someone like Elias Pettersson or Kyle Connor would become available, we should be all over that, agressively dangles 1st RD pick and valuable D prospects.
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No, I expect PO appearance in 2025. But you need to understand that some of our core pieces need time. Hutson, Reinbacher or Mailloux are supposed to be our top Ds, but they are not even in NHL now. In salary cap era, you really have just 5-6 years period of being a true contender. You have to be very cautious with right timing.
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