I would have extended one year at that point, giving us effectively 2 years of Allen as a stopgap instead of three. It would have come with zero raise. And I'm not just saying this in hindsight.
Lol ya these takes are getting ridiculous. Now we're blaming Allen's .891 SV% and 3.55 GAA for stealing too many games....
An .891 over 42 games is just straight up bad. You've gotta pick between the two because this describes virtually every goalie who isn't a total AHL/ECHL amateur who's always bad or a legitimate #1 who's consistently good. He was very bad on balance last year, and his replacement would not have been an empty net, it would have been another scrub goalie who is just as capable of having a couple of individually great and poor games to either steal/give away wins.
I just disagree that it was a clearly bad decision. They paid a 1B to be a 1B and he had a down year like non-#1 goalies sometimes do. The impetus was that they had no goalie under contract for 24-25 and Montembeault had shown nothing beyond being a bad AHLer up to that point so they signed a guy who'd been a solid backup/1B for his career to be a veteran stopgap so that defencemen could develop in front of a credible baseline OK NHL goalie instead of someone like 21-22 Montembeault.
Well Tony got Mumbles on his podcast tonight. That's always a fun listen.
He was bad and he didn't merit an extension or a two year term or a raise.
Giving a raise to a bad goalie (which you've hedged as a "1B") is a clearly bad decision made by the Habs GM so of course you'd disagree that it was a bad decision.
This was, the head scratcher from Hughes for me...............strange at least.
Maybe he should demonstrate that he can actually play in the NHL first.
This isn't true. Average Sv% in 21-22 was .907, and it was .908 the year prior. A .905 on the 32nd-place team over 35 games is perfectly serviceable for a 1B, as is a .907 over 29/56 games for the mediocre 20-21 Habs. He's been around that level his whole career. He was bad this year, he was not "a bad goalie" at the time the contract was signed.
Giving a raise to a perfectly average/mediocre goalie is a perfectly average move. Sometimes average/mediocre goalies have bad seasons and career AHLers like Montembeault have good ones. If it makes you feel better you can pretend that I'm writing this wearing a Kent Hughes Habs jersey and personally follow him around to tend to his every beck and call because I think Jake Allen is an OK 1B goalie.
A team that doesn't have a 1A goalie and doesn't have any pretensions of competing doesn't need to give a raise to a 1B goalie. It's a bad move. I know it might be painful to consider that the current Habs GM could've made a bad move but there was no reason to give him a raise at the time of the signing amd it is especially irrational in hindsight, now that Allen has repaid Hughes' exuberance with a second consecutive stinker of a season... and is committed to for another two seasons to come.
and watch Allen play lights out first half - so Hugo can flip him at the TDL for a 1st.
We are going to see the real Raphael Harvey Pitlik this year. Last year no pressure he produces, this year with pressure, he will be sent down before December. Too bad , won a couple of extra games we shouldn't have last year.
What would we realistically need to give up to get him?
Only in the case that Dach improves to like 60pts/season it could be Dach (quality young NHLer) + Reinbacher (blue chip prospect) + (blue chip future; eg 1st round pick) + (serviceable NHLer). A steep price indeed.
So much pain....feels like we're overpaying with all those pieces but you're probably bang on with value. It will hurt to get him lol.
Well they wouldn’t want Hutson because they have Quinn Hughes, so our best prospect they will want will likely be Reinbacher. Then you build from there… it would be painful but it really depends on how EP does this year, how Dach does this year, and how the Habs do this year (both in terms of competitiveness and attractiveness to EP and in terms of the draft rank for the first round pick). If Dach flies out of the gate and doesn’t look back then of course you don’t trade him AND Reinbacher AND mors. But if Dach only hits 60pts but shows flashes of more then yeah, you’ll probably have to account that they’ll demand him.
There's no real precedent for such a steep price, unless we're talking Lindros.As good as Petey is, his last season is still an outlier for now.
