HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #84: Off-Season edition

[Whalers Fan]

There are at least 8 teams with no NHL calibre goaltender where Montembault would be an improvement. They should offer a 1st for him.

Monty has been a pleasant surprise this year, but no team is going to offer a 1st round pick for him.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Assuming the Habs don't win the lottery, they should trade some older, less productive players and replace them with prospects and young trade acquisitions I think we'll something like Dvo, Eddy, Allen, Hoffman etc out. PLD at near certainty of being a Hab this off season and re-signing Monahan to a team friendly "show me" contract. I see the lineup something like this.

Caufield Suzuki Dach
Slaf PLD Anderson
RHP Monahan Gally
Ferrall Evans Gurianov
Ylonen Armia Heinemen

Matheson Savard
Guhle Barron
Xhekaj Kovacevic
Harris

Monty
Primeau/New goalie

 

[Durvann]

Regarding PLD, if all we hear is true about him wanting to play here then I think Hughes and Gorton are keeping that as a backup plan. I think they would rather continue targetting Dach type (cost controlled) players and if they really don't see him fit as long term 2nd center then they may consider PLD more seriously.

Also all depends of what we can get for Anderson/Harris/A or B prospect.

It's about asset management and slowly getting more value here and there and selling from a position of abundance for targetted needs.

Lastly it's probably Molson's call. "Hey Geoff, we can expedite the rebuild by doing X, is this too risky, should we proceed or you rather wait?" That's how I see it. More likely a question for next year, this year is too early to expidite anything.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Monty has been a pleasant surprise this year, but no team is going to offer a 1st round pick for him.

I agree. He is worth more to us than whatever offer that is likely to be made for him

 

[1909]

Comtois and Pez doesn't have the same role though

And I'm extremely confident telling you that Comtois have nothing to do in that story

I hope so for himself and his career.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Is he skilled?

How come he only has 13 games in the NHL at near 25 years old?

Never seen the guy but geez 6’6 lol

He isn't a 1st line player, but given how the Habs will have the ability to put players in spots they normally wouldn't get, wouldn't be a terrible idea to see what he can do here. He's been passed by a lot of people in Dallas.

 

[sampollock]

the draft will rewrite these line ups.

 

[John B]

Assuming the Habs don't win the lottery, they should trade some older, less productive players and replace them with prospects and young trade acquisitions I think we'll something like Dvo, Eddy, Allen, Hoffman etc out. PLD at near certainty of being a Hab this off season and re-signing Monahan to a team friendly "show me" contract. I see the lineup something like this.

Caufield Suzuki Dach
Slaf PLD Anderson
RHP Monahan Gally
Ferrall Evans Gurianov
Ylonen Armia Heinemen

Matheson Savard
Guhle Barron
Xhekaj Kovacevic
Harris

Monty
Primeau/New goalie

Unfortunately, I don't think Dvorak, Hoffman, or Allen will be moved. Allen's contract extension kicks in this year at nearly a $4M cap hit. That's a bit rich for a backup or at best a bubble starter. I don't see much interest for Hoffman until the trade deadline. Dvorak hasn't been playing the greatest this year, so I don't see much interest from other teams.

It's possible Edmundson gets moved because of the log jam on left D. I'd be concerned about the return being low though considering the kind of season he has had. Doesn't sound like teams at the deadline were offering much of anything for him and I don't see the offers getting much better in the offseason when teams can just sign free agents without giving up assets. Best time to trade a guy like him is the trade deadline when teams are a little more desperate and have less options.

 

[ML16]

Would you guys be interested in Max Comtois as a reclamation project? He was kinda trending well in his 3 first seasons but his last two are underwhelming.

He is RFA with arbitration rights but I don’t think he can ask for more than what he is already making, which is 2M$ per.

His time is over in Anaheim I heard so I guess the cost to get him would not be high. Maybe a B prospect, Colorado’s 2nd rounder in 2024 or Habs 3rd in 2024?

What do you say?

I could take a chance on LW Max Comtois under 2M for 1-2 years, if:

- the Ducks accept either Hoffman or Armia as the main counterpart for his RFA rights ;

- the Habs’ added incentive to compensate the salary cap difference is somewhat marginal (4th round pick / B prospect) ;

- The Habs don’t renew Gurianov (hopefully his signing rights are dealt along with Dvorak and other incentives in a reasonable package for Dubois).

 

[Runner77]

I could take a chance on LW Max Comtois under 2M for 1-2 years, if:

- the Ducks accept either Hoffman or Armia as the main counterpart for his RFA rights ;

- the Habs’ added incentive to compensate the salary cap difference is somewhat marginal (4th round pick / B prospect) ;

- The Habs don’t renew Gurianov (hopefully his signing rights are dealt along with Dvorak and other incentives in a reasonable package for Dubois).

Armia has negative value. Hughes will have to pay, if he wants to include him in a trade.

 

[Scriptor]

2025. Hagens & Misa

I'm happy with more Häagen-Dazs in 2023. It's my Kryptonite.

 

[Runner77]

I'm happy with more Häagen-Dazs in 2023. It's my Kryptonite.

Doesn’t beat organic, artisanal ice cream.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Doesn’t beat organic, artisanal ice cream.

pretty sure I've seen you downing scoops at Glacier Bilboquet

Armia has negative value. Hughes will have to pay, if he wants to include him in a trade.

no one wants the tin man, the scarecrow and the cowardly lion

 

[Scriptor]

Doesn’t beat organic, artisanal ice cream.

No, it doesn't, but it's easier to find for the difference.

 

[Paddy17]

I could take a chance on LW Max Comtois under 2M for 1-2 years, if:

- the Ducks accept either Hoffman or Armia as the main counterpart for his RFA rights ;

- the Habs’ added incentive to compensate the salary cap difference is somewhat marginal (4th round pick / B prospect) ;

- The Habs don’t renew Gurianov (hopefully his signing rights are dealt along with Dvorak and other incentives in a reasonable package for Dubois).

We already have a logjam of players. No need to get more. RHP, Ylonen, Heineman, and Farrell have either proven they deserve to play or deserve a chance to win a spot.

Not even room for Monahan, Gurianov, Pitlick or anyone else already here this year. I'd only consider Gurianov if we magically get rid of some of the vets still on the payroll.

 

[Runner77]

No, it doesn't, but it's easier to find for the difference.

There's something to be said for that.

 

[benthepr0p]

Minor look, but the Habs should look to Dallas and buy cheap on Riley Tufte..

Drafted right before Tage Thompson, ouch.

 

[Scriptor]

We already have a logjam of players. No need to get more. RHP, Ylonen, Heineman, and Farrell have either proven they deserve to play or deserve a chance to win a spot.

Not even room for Monahan, Gurianov, Pitlick or anyone else already here this year. I'd only consider Gurianov if we magically get rid of some of the vets still on the payroll.

Never say no to better players, but, please, say so emphatically to more projects. There might not even be room to keep Gurianov, as you point out.

 

[Zilo44]

Never say no to better players, but, please, say so emphatically to more projects. There might not even be room to keep Gurianov, as you point out.

We don’t have NHL ready prospects at C right now. Personally, I would trade Dvorak and resign Monahan on a cheap 1 year deal.

I agree that Hoffman, Pitlick, Gurianov, Pezzetta, Evans, Armia, Gallagher are pretty useless players that don’t do much outside of preventing our young guns from having ice time. We should cleat as many as possible

 

[Rapala]

Lastly it's probably Molson's call.

I just choked on my coffee. If this is even close to being fact WTF is Gorton doing. Molson needs to wear his CEO hat and sign checks and STAY OUT of hockey related decisions. Sure as an owner you can flex your muscles but doing so would just undermine the strides we've taken to fix a broken corporate structure. The only reason for keeping his title of "President" is so he can pay himself and salvage some ego and save some face.

 

[RationalExpectations]

We don’t have NHL ready prospects at C right now. Personally, I would trade Dvorak and resign Monahan on a cheap 1 year deal.

I agree that Hoffman, Pitlick, Gurianov, Pezzetta, Evans, Armia, Gallagher are pretty useless players that don’t do much outside of preventing our young guns from having ice time. We should cleat as many as possible

What is it with Monahan ? The guy is broken...
Hoffman, Gurianov are preventing young players to play but I Hope they are out as soon as this offseason. Armia takes Belzile place so I d rather see him leave because Belzile AT least is entertaining whereas Armia seems to disappezr completely.
Evans is a good 4C which young player should play here ?
Gallagher cannot be moved because of his contract anyways so let s use him as a 3rd liner.
Pezzeta is fine as a 13F, again which Key prospect would benefit to site 70% of the Time and get 10 minutes ice Time ?

 

[Rapala]

pretty sure I've seen you downing scoops at Glacier Bilboquet


no one wants the tin man, the scarecrow and the cowardly lion

or even Dorothy for that matter.
It was rumoured there was some interest in the Wicked Witch. Oh well.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I just choked on my coffee. If this is even close to being fact WTF is Gorton doing. Molson needs to wear his CEO hat and sign checks and STAY OUT of hockey related decisions. Sure as an owner you can flex your muscles but doing so would just undermine the strides we've taken to fix a broken corporate structure. The only reason for keeping his title of "President" is so he can pay himself and salvage some ego and save some face.

Gorton has full control of hockey operations.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I just choked on my coffee. If this is even close to being fact WTF is Gorton doing. Molson needs to wear his CEO hat and sign checks and STAY OUT of hockey related decisions. Sure as an owner you can flex your muscles but doing so would just undermine the strides we've taken to fix a broken corporate structure. The only reason for keeping his title of "President" is so he can pay himself and salvage some ego and save some face.

I like to hope that Molson swallowed a bit of his pride when he hired Gorton. Lol sadly he’ll always have the power to undermine his staff. But I think the moves that we’ve seen since he put the new guys in place suggest he’s letting those guys do their jobs.

 

[Whalers Fan]

We don’t have NHL ready prospects at C right now. Personally, I would trade Dvorak and resign Monahan on a cheap 1 year deal.

Considering that Monahan is about to have surgery again, I don't think he should be signed with the intent of being counted on to replace anyone. If the team signs him to a performance-heavy contract with minimal risk, so be it. However, the team cannot get rid of Dvorak without having a more solid replacement plan than just Monahan.