HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80
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The Great Weal
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Drouin(50%) for Lucic+ 2 2nds would have to be the type of trade for it to make sense for us.
the good thing about Lucic, is he can slot on 4th/3rd which creates room on the top 6 (where hoffman needs to play). and, if a team starts any hanky panky with our rookies - we put on Lucic, Dach, Anderson, Jackeye, Edmunson and go to town.
...not Dach, who isn't really a physical banger type of guy, but the rest would definitely be a deterrent for any Hanky Panky with our skill guys...a little Old School hockey while we wait for the kids to get ready wouldn't hurt me to see...
exactly, the LAST thing we need is a Regular season superstar to hurt the tank, only to bow out in rd 1 of playoffs.. like the Leafs.
well, I put in Dach for his sheer size, as it would be the meanest MF line in the league. Ofcourse we dont want Dach fighting with his wrists, but he can def police the onlookers/scrum...not Dach, who isn't really a physical banger type of guy, but the rest would definitely be a deterrent for any Hanky Panky with our skill guys...a little Old School hockey while we wait for the kids to get ready wouldn't hurt me to see...
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What kind of pick are the mains suggesting? Mind you, your opinion is even better. What would you see as a reasonable pick?
Canadienna
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Yeah I guess you're right actually. I forgot Hoffman had 2 years left.
Hoffman > Lucic imo, but it maybe evens out with Hoffman's extra year.
...hard to gauge, really...there are some who think it'll take a 1st to move him and others who swear that he's not a Cap Dump and would take an asset...and it depends on whether Treliving is happy with Coleman or Dube in his Top 6 or if he wants a Milano/Rodriguez-level upgrade on the UFA front...or Hoffman...I would do that deal in a microsecond, the more I think about it...
...one could only hope Treliving thinks the same...
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We do know Treliving was adamant about not dealing his 2023 1st rounder in his most recent talks with Hughes, involving Monahan, so it would take a hell of a lot more than taking back Lucic, to convince him....hard to gauge, really...there are some who think it'll take a 1st to move him and others who swear that he's not a Cap Dump and would take an asset...and it depends on whether Treliving is happy with Coleman or Dube in his Top 6 or if he wants a Milano/Rodriguez-level upgrade on the UFA front...or Hoffman...I would do that deal in a microsecond, the more I think about it...
...one could only hope Treliving thinks the same...
...which is why Hughes needs to butter him up with the Hoffman deal instead...they get a Top 6 scorer, we get out of his contract for one year of Looch on the 4th line as a Nuclear Deterrent...win-win...at least that's what we tell Treliving...
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Well, turns out Treliving is not a patsy. Would he not prefer a Milano from the UFA market, for free? Hoffman is a liability and his extra term is a deterrent....which is why Hughes needs to butter him up with the Hoffman deal instead...they get a Top 6 scorer, we get out of his contract for one year of Looch on the 4th line as a Nuclear Deterrent...win-win...at least that's what we tell Treliving...
...and in that situation, he'll need the Cap that a Lucic trade offers, which is where we swoop in and get a 2nd, at least...aim for a 1st, though...just in case Treliving is desperate...
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An asset will have to go out, in order to take in a Lucic.
Current cap room is enough to sign Dach and Primeau but not much else left after that, unless Byron is also LTIRed.
...unfortunately that is the case...and finding a buyer for a Drouin or a Dadonov probably won't happen until the Deadline IF they have good years...I'm not into selling low on Dvorak or Anderson; they are probably moves that don't come this year if at all...
...Byron on LTIR needs some confirming as well...if he is starting there, then we may have a bit of wiggle room...
HuGort
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Jones terrible analytics with 10 million salary for 7 years. 10 million bring another star here. Or rent out caproom, bring Habs about 2 first picks each year Hughes does it.
I think correct pairing help Jones though. I seen Markov make Komisarek and Subban look better than they were. He smart sense well structured. Weber like that too. Chiarot, Eddy, many others he improve.
Gallagher should bounce back. A two time 33 goal scorer good player for 10 years. I think Covid last year slowed him and lengthy Cup run. All 4 teams went deep underachieved. Isles and Vegas never made playoffs also. Habs lot worse because Weber and Price done.
That was good team Cup run "21. Price, Weber, Caufield, Suzuki, Danault, Gallagher, Petry, Perry. If not for injured, stars retire. been several cup chances Be awhile for see team that good again.
...Jones is still a Top Pairing Dman, just overpaid...Gallagher needs a huge bounce-back to become that Top 6 guy again...hence, no way Chicago makes that deal...
Adam Michaels
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Chicago is rebuilding, too. If anything, they're rebuilding more than the Habs. They're going scorched earth, whereas Montreal is doing more of an accelerated one.
habsfan891
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People should probably expect much of the same this year considering our backend is worse and Price is confirmed to be done.
Vachon23
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I can't see the Habs starting the season with that much forward, especially is Slaf does well at camp.
Sterling Archer
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Hugo have been active since they got in the job. Can’t imagine they’re not trying to trade some of the excess forwards to make more space on the roster and cap for the deadline.
Vachon23
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Moving one of the winger for a vet Dmen (RD if possible) would make a lot if sense
BLONG7
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If there can't be trades to get cap relief, there will be a couple of names, on waivers..........thinking Armia, Drouin and probably Hoffman.
We have way too many forwards.
We have way too many forwards.
The Great Weal
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There will likely be some injuries to start the year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we gave a PTO to a guy like Stralman while we wait to pick up a RHD on waivers.
Right now, Hugues is not in a hurry to make a trade where he doesn't feel it's a good one for the team. If there's a good deal, he'll trade. If not, they'll go into training camp with all these forwards and see how things shake out, whether it'd be injuries or young players forcing their hand. There's no imperative to do something before the end of training camp if it doesn't make sense.
As for a vet defenseman, I suspect it'll come in the form of a waiver pick up (we have first dibs) towards the end of camp, or a PTO to whoever is still available.
salbutera
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Doesn’t Jones have a full NMC - I don’t think it’s eating $alary as much as finding a preferred player location that has actual cap space to accommodate a near $5M player
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