HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80
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Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
That's where we are heading anyway, so I feel like grabbing another "young veteran" like Suzuki, who will be a workhorse for us and keep opposing forwards honest is a good thing. Basically Hague would take Romanov's spot in the lineup, and eventually replace Edmundson when it's his time to be moved.
Oh boy, by then Suzuki will be two years older than Dvorak is now.
Between his advanced age and very expensive contract, Suzuki should be a candidate for liquidation, by the logic of many.
Imagine if Hague was a RHD? He could be the ideal pairing partner for Hutson, able to, with his reach, cover both sides at D at the same time 
SOLR
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Nope Suzuki will be just fine at 28 as one of our vets, Dvorak would be 31 - that's crossing the line.
SOLR
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By then, Martin St-Louis will be 50. Surely, they won't renew his contract, right?
Name a contending team that does not have 31 year olds, or older.
And by the way, Hugo do not intend to wait 5 years to compete. Next summer with about $15M coming off the payroll (net of Caufield's increase), the team will be looking to identify pieces to build around.
And that includes 3Cs at $4.45M.
Dvorak, Dach, Monahan, etc., will all get a chance to make a case for themselves. Hughes will decide if they have just increased their value in a trade or if they are something to build around.
SlafySZN
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Dach’s not in those guys position. They didn’t acquire him to trade him.
NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. The players will dictate what becomes of them, not the initial plan.
SOLR
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Most contending team have 31 years old core players (because their rebuild took longer than anticipated). Dvo is not core, never will be. Then they have a few cheap vets in the bottom 6 (acquired later).
The D will take years to get fixed (and take up that 15m easily). We are missing 2 top 4 Ds on top of Mailloux, Harris, Guhle, and Barron developing perfectly (that never happens, a few will fail) - these 4 also need to get paid, 4 entry level at the same time - it's an opportunity but they will all also get raises at the same time if they develop well.
Contenders don't have 5m 3rd centers....they have all their money in the top 6, top 4 D, and a G. - that's why someone like Beck will be the 3rd center when the window will open, entry-level contract, allowing us to have 5 8m+ forwards in the top 6.
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Break it down:
7M - 8M - 7M
6M - 7M - 5M
3M - 3M - 3M
1.5M - 2M - 1.5M
1M, 1M
8M - 7M
4M - 3.5M
2M - 1.5M
1M
4M
3M
Total payroll: 90M
Will the cap be up to 90M in 4 more years? It might take that to ice a true contender for several years.
7M - 8M - 7M
6M - 7M - 5M
3M - 3M - 3M
1.5M - 2M - 1.5M
1M, 1M
8M - 7M
4M - 3.5M
2M - 1.5M
1M
4M
3M
Total payroll: 90M
Will the cap be up to 90M in 4 more years? It might take that to ice a true contender for several years.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
Pretty much. Hard to predict as fans but this flat cap is an issue so this is likely our roster. I posted this kind of roster last week. More in terms of the cap space and not sure of the forward lines. Feel more comfortable with trying to guess the D than the F. I got Byron listed cause I think he is just on IR, not LTIR to start the season.
I have it projected around $3M in cap space.
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
I think the NHLPA outstanding balance will be close to be paid off after this next season and both sides look to increase the cap more than the scheduled $1M to avoid shocking the system. They were already $400M ahead of schedule last season and Bettman said those were conservative numbers.
So I think we are looking at a $84/$85M cap for 23/24 and around $90M for 24/25. I don't think it takes 4 more years.
Something you have to live with if he gets claimed. Doubt he would but possible. We have others like Ylonen who can be called up
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
Thinking the entire team will be age 30 or under is not probable. There is no line, it's a year to year approach and there will be guys on our team from the 30-35 age range.
SOLR
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There is a line for core players. There is a line to get enough draft assets to recruit this core (we are not there at all)
Habs Halifax
Loyal Habs Fan
It's a process and yes, you prefer the core to be in a 5 year age range where they grow together. Right now, there is a 5 year gap from Suzuki to Slaf.
Once the guys around Slaf's age and the next two drafts (lets say) reach 22/23, Suzuki will be 28+ like you said. Then we have a contender window and Suzuki will be in that 30-33 age range.
And I also see us being players on the UFA market in about 2 off seasons. That means we might be bringing in a guy 28-30+ for 6 or 7 years.
MarkovsKnee
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Habs 4 Life
No Excuses
Seriously please trade Allen, we don't want or need someone to start stealing games for us in October and hurt us down the road!!
Sterling Archer
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Vegas will have a tough time making the playoffs this year. They're not making that deal for our scraps.
sampollock
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agree, they did not trade a draft pick and Alex R for a flip
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