HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[HuGort]

Engels did mention yesterday that there could be another move they're working on

But I think Habs can afford to be patient for the moment. They can maybe go into camp as is. Sometimes a player gets hurt during preseason. Then there's Monahan, who we don't know yet if he'll be good to go right off the bat or if he'll miss some time at the start of the season. Slaf will likely start with the Habs. But being waiver eligible, he could start in Laval.

I'm sure they're talking trades with other teams. But if they err on the side of caution and be patient, I don't think it's a bad thing that they have 15F at the moment.

Yup, I don't know how that stuff works. Caproom and waivers and stuff.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yup, I don't know how that stuff works. Caproom and waivers and stuff.

Cap space won't be an issue because Price will be placed on LTIR. So they will have an extra $10.5M to work with.

As for waivers, the only forwards currently listed on the NHL roster on CapFriendly who are able to be sent down to Laval without waivers are Slaf and Caufield.

 

[CHfan1]

If you're not cap compliant during the season, you will be penalized. It could be losing draft picks (including 1st round picks) and possibly also being fined,

These are some of the penalties:

- Impose a fine of up to $5 million in the case of a Circumvention by a Club or Club Actor, but in no circumstances shall such fine be less than $1 million against any Club or Club Actor if such party is found to have violated Article 50 of this Agreement. If such a fine is assessed against a Club (except in the case of a financial reporting violation), that Club's Payroll Room shall also be reduced by such amount for the following League Year, and if such reduction of the Club's Payroll Room renders the Club out of compliance with the Payroll Range (i.e., the Club does not have sufficient Payroll Room to accommodate its Player commitments comprising Club Salary) for such following League Year, then the Club must take such steps as are necessary (e.g., Assignment, Buy-Out, Waivers, etc.) and as are permitted by this Agreement to ensure that the Club will be in compliance with Article 50 of this Agreement upon commencement of the following League Year;

- Direct a Club to forfeit draft picks (the number, placement, and League Year of which shall be determined in the Commissioner's sole discretion);

- Declare a forfeiture of any NHL Game(s) determined to have been affected by a Circumvention;

 

[Guy Larose]

I’d be interested to see how pitlick does this year. If he builds on last year and becomes a 20G and 30A player, he can start looking like another Hagel. He signed super cheap to 2 more years so teams will love that cap security.
I don’t think he’d get 2 firsts but I could see him getting a first just given his contract. One of the most undervalued contracts/players in our organization right now imo.

And if he did, they would trade him why? People have to stop thinking they're trading everybody, because they're not. If Pitlick performs well it's a bonus for the team and he fits the age core. He won't be going anywhere unless teams start calling HuGo with an interesting offer of some kind, since I doubt they'll shop him. Players traded at the deadline will be the likes of Dadonov, JD, and any other UFA...if Monahan comes back to his old self of when he came into the league, Hughes already said he wants to keep him. Allen will probably depend on a few things and how things shape up. We need a goalie one way or the other.

 

[CaptainKirk]

...if Monahan comes back to his old self of when he came into the league, Hughes already said he wants to keep him.

I’d hope he’d say that for any reclamation project, whether he plans to keep him or not.

 

[Runner77]

And if he did, they would trade him why? People have to stop thinking they're trading everybody, because they're not. If Pitlick performs well it's a bonus for the team and he fits the age core. He won't be going anywhere unless teams start calling HuGo with an interesting offer of some kind, since I doubt they'll shop him. Players traded at the deadline will be the likes of Dadonov, JD, and any other UFA...if Monahan comes back to his old self of when he came into the league, Hughes already said he wants to keep him. Allen will probably depend on a few things and how things shape up. We need a goalie one way or the other.

New acquisitions should be given a chance to show what they’re about and whether it be a return to form with no lingering medical issues for Monahan or even say for Matheson, to see if he can replicate last season’s performance. Same for any other additions.

I generally find that we’re too quick on the trigger and can’t stand waiting for stuff.

One other thing that strikes me about Monahan and even Matheson while we’re at it, both have come with glowing reports about being good people and great teammates. Of course, their performance is what we’re after but it’s highly beneficial to a roster consisting of so many young players knocking at the door, to have examples like these guys to emulate and to be there for them if they need support.

Hughes is not just content to get his 1st rounder on a cap dump deal, I like that he still tries to find an angle to ensure that whoever he’s bringing in, will be a positive influence on the group.

 

[Guy Larose]

I’d hope he’d say that for any reclamation project, whether he plans to keep him or not.

Of course, but lets say for the sake of argument that Monahan has a comeback season and scores 40 goals and 80 points (doubtful, but for the argument), you don't think he'd resign him? He won't just trade him away being only 27 and all, unless he can't resign him. They still want to ice the best team they can and also give a show to the fans. It's not going to workout like some think on here where they're going to go into every game with a losing attitude and try and tank. Won't happen.

New acquisitions should be given a chance to show what they’re about and whether it be a return to form with no lingering medical issues for Monahan or even say for Matheson, to see if he can replicate last season’s performance. Same for any other additions.

I generally find that we’re too quick on the trigger and can’t stand waiting for stuff.

One other thing that strikes me about Monahan and even Matheson while we’re at it, both have come with glowing reports about being good people and great teammates. Of course, their performance is what we’re after but it’s highly beneficial to. a roster consisting of so many young players knocking at the door, to have examples like these guys to emulate and to be there for them if they need support.

Hughes is not just content to get his 1st rounder on a cap dump deal, I like that he still tries to find an angle to ensure that whoever he’s bringing in, will be a positive influence on the group.

Yes, this ^...he's still getting players he likes and will help.

 

[Miller Time]

If Monahan does bounce back to a solid top 6 level (elite return seems very unlikely), it almost assures that:
- his surgeries were successful
- he meshes with the locker room
- he gels with coaching staff/organization

& If that is the case, I bet there is a string mutual desire to re-sign & we'll see an extension that is very mutually beneficial

 

[Runner77]

If Monahan does bounce back to a solid top 6 level (elite return seems very unlikely), it almost assures that:
- his surgeries were successful
- he meshes with the locker room
- he gels with coaching staff/organization

& If that is the case, I bet there is a string mutual desire to re-sign & we'll see an extension that is very mutually beneficial

Based on the Habs due diligence as expressed this afternoon by Hughes on his radio interview, Habs are satisfied that Monahan’s medical issues are behind him and that he’s likely to revert to form. Of course, it all needs to be tested out at ice level.

There is a reason Hughes opened the door to an extension with the player, which was unexpected given the cap dump transaction that it looked to be on first blush. Hughes doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll just blurt out stuff, I think he is more than satisfied with the internal reports he’s compiled and if the price is right, there may be more Monahan to be had than just this season.

First things first, none of this matters if the guy doesn’t revert to form.

 

[HuGo Sham]

New acquisitions should be given a chance to show what they’re about and whether it be a return to form with no lingering medical issues for Monahan or even say for Matheson, to see if he can replicate last season’s performance. Same for any other additions.

I generally find that we’re too quick on the trigger and can’t stand waiting for stuff.

One other thing that strikes me about Monahan and even Matheson while we’re at it, both have come with glowing reports about being good people and great teammates. Of course, their performance is what we’re after but it’s highly beneficial to a roster consisting of so many young players knocking at the door, to have examples like these guys to emulate and to be there for them if they need support.

Hughes is not just content to get his 1st rounder on a cap dump deal, I like that he still tries to find an angle to ensure that whoever he’s bringing in, will be a positive influence on the group.

can you confirm this anecdote repeated on DLC? His boys went to Newfoundland to celebrate the SC with Alex Newhook, and he bailed on going until his daughter told him she had dream habs drafted bedard if he went. So he ended up buying his ticket and flew to newfoundland today for the weekend party LOL.

 

[Draft]

The Montreal Canadiens Home For:
Surrendered Boys?
Discarded Toys?

Either way I’m looking forward to seeing if any of them work out. Size continues to be a priority it seems.

 

[Adam Michaels]

can you confirm this anecdote repeated on DLC? His boys went to Newfoundland to celebrate the SC with Alex Newhook, and he bailed on going until his daughter told him she had dream habs drafted bedard if he went. So he ended up buying his ticket and flew to newfoundland today for the weekend party LOL.

I think I heard that part. The host told Hughes that if the Habs do end up drafting Bedard, they should hire his daughter as the team's astrologist.

 

[Miller Time]

Based on the Habs due diligence as expressed this afternoon by Hughes on his radio interview, Habs are satisfied that Monahan’s medical issues are behind him and that he’s likely to revert to form. Of course, it all needs to be tested out at ice level.

There is a reason Hughes opened the door to an extension with the player, which was unexpected given the cap dump transaction that it looked to be on first blush. Hughes doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll just blurt out stuff, I think he is more than satisfied with the internal reports he’s compiled and if the price is right, there may be more Monahan to be had than just this season.

First things first, none of this matters if the guy doesn’t revert to form.

Yup and yup.

Hughes thus far seems to undertake the kind of due diligence one would expect from a GM...

Monahan matured a lot as a player the past few seasons, and while his injury-hampered performance limited his effectiveness, he handled the setbacks, disappointments and frustration with a very high degree of class & team-first attitude. If he is healthy, this deal could end up being viewed as a massive coup down the road... Getting a 1st & a solid roster addition for "future considerations".

Sense of timing & schrewd risk taking is such an amazing thing to finally see in Habs management!

 

[Milhouse40]

Based on the Habs due diligence as expressed this afternoon by Hughes on his radio interview, Habs are satisfied that Monahan’s medical issues are behind him and that he’s likely to revert to form. Of course, it all needs to be tested out at ice level.

There is a reason Hughes opened the door to an extension with the player, which was unexpected given the cap dump transaction that it looked to be on first blush. Hughes doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll just blurt out stuff, I think he is more than satisfied with the internal reports he’s compiled and if the price is right, there may be more Monahan to be had than just this season.

First things first, none of this matters if the guy doesn’t revert to form.

We'll see....it might just be posturing for TDL as he did with pretty much every single player he traded last year.
He's been good at driving value up so far.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

It's almost 8pm and Hughes hasn't even acquired a first round pick today... C'mon... This is unacceptable...

 

[Bacchus1]

Cap space won't be an issue because Price will be placed on LTIR. So they will have an extra $10.5M to work with.

As for waivers, the only forwards currently listed on the NHL roster on CapFriendly who are able to be sent down to Laval without waivers are Slaf and Caufield.

10.5 minus 6.2 ish (Monahan) minus whatever Dach gets, so we are looking at a couple to a few mill left.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

It's almost 8pm and Hughes hasn't even acquired a first round pick today... C'mon... This is unacceptable...

...yup...fire this guy now for sitting on his hands...

 

[The Great Weal]

I still think Anderson for Weegar+extension makes sense for both teams. Their winger depth after Huberdeau, Mangiapagne, and Toffoli falls off a cliff.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I still think Anderson for Weegar+extension makes sense for both teams. Their winger depth after Huberdeau, Mangiapagne, and Toffoli falls off a cliff.

This would be horrific for Calgary

 

[HuGo Sham]

I think I heard that part. The host told Hughes that if the Habs do end up drafting Bedard, they should hire his daughter as the team's astrologist.

lol

 

[Richiebottles]

Imagine a future C Line of Suzuki - Dubois - Monahan - Dach.

Woah baby.

 

[SlafySZN]

Imagine a future C Line of Suzuki - Dubois - Monahan - Dach.

Woah baby.

No

 

[Richiebottles]

No

Why not? You have 3 C’s that can put up a minimum of 50 pts each.

What would your C depth look like?

 

[SlafySZN]

Why not? You have 3 C’s that can put up a minimum of 50 pts each.

What would your C depth look like?

2023 pick will likely be a C (bedard, fantilli, Yager, carlsson) We’ll have suzuki, Dach, Evans and a guy like Beck/Mysak, who knows for monahan. No need of a dubois imo.

 

[eklund the clown]

Imagine a future C Line of Suzuki - Dubois - Monahan - Dach.

Woah baby.

Not Dubois again .We already need to get rid of Dvo because we have too many centres