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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80
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Where do they get the Million in Cap space to make that happen. Three years of Savard for two years of Barrie at a Million more, I take in a heartbeat....IF Edmonton would bite, does anyone think HuGo would do Barrie for Savard, a 4th this year, and their 7th back next year??...
Does Byron on LTIR resolve the money needed to sign Dach to a two-year bridge and pay the extra Million to get Barrie? How much/little Cap room is there left before placing Byron on the LTIR?
...they have no value...that's the problem...Hoffman I might give the benefit of the doubt to this year, but Armia is doing nothing but wasting $3.4 mill worth of Cap for the next three years...if it's at all possible to lose him for free, that's a huge win for the Habs...
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I don’t think anyone giving a 3rd for Byron even with 50% retain, I would retain on Allen to try to improve the return.
Sterling Archer
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Very true.
Considering the number of rumoured trades and proposals, I’m surprised we haven’t completely switched rosters like Edmonton and Toronto almost did in the 80’s.
CHfan1
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I doubt the Habs could trade Hoffman or Armia for future considerations at this point. I think the Habs would have to add at least a mid round pick to get rid of either.
...we'd both need a 3rd Party team to eat Cap for a pick (a 4th or 5th maybe)...
Milhouse40
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It's Mission impossible in this NHL economy.
When team can't even get a pick for Pacioretty or Burns......that's telling.
As for the Oilers, I think the value for them would still be Allen.....they don't have a backup behind Campbell.
In the idea of trying to get rid of some contract, knowing we'll have to eat something for it and still don't get totally screw.....If Kadri goes to NYI, Colorado could use someone like Dvorak and his cap-friendly contract.
Something around Dvorak + Savard for Girard??.......that's 2.95M$ off the books for the next 3 years for us.
...I like it, but it also gives the Avs 4 RD and 2 LD in their Top 6 and us 4 LD and 2 RD in ours (one being Wideman)...
I don't like the idea of Girard playing on his off side, but it might work with Edmundson as a pairing partner.
That, unfortunately, eats up Edmundson as a pairing partner for Barron, which would also be ideal.
Harris and Barron, not a great idea.
Matheson and Barron is riskier than Edmundson and Barron.
Who would play with Harris on the right side? Wideman?
If you're going to develop youngsters, you'd want Edmundson for Barron and Savard for Harris in a 3rd pairing role.
That leaves Mathewson in a 1st pairing role perhaps too high for him and the need for more of a shutdown 1st pairing RD.
Milhouse40
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Still can work for us as Girard can play right side....it's not like we need to sort it all out for next year. Maybe Edmundson makes more sense. Anyway I was just spitballing
...that's what this place is for, amigo...I spitball here, mostly terrible deals, all the time...it's what we Habs Nuts do...
...as for the deal, I guess my major apprehension is that I'm not overly sold on Girard being able to carry a PP1 or play Top Pairing minutes, especially on his off-side which he's never been great at imo...well, that and Girard is soft as baby shyte...
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Why get other wingers, Some people said last day that Armia is top 6 worthy and will bounce back to a 50 points season. Great bargain of a deal of the maestro he left us!
Note that Armia got 58 points in his last 3 seasons!! It was just bad years!
Note that Armia got 58 points in his last 3 seasons!! It was just bad years!
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We have a better chance of finding D.B. Cooper than figuring out how Hughes will get out of his cap constraints.
...get all of the Owners & GMs together to beg for another Compliance Buyout for each team...ask any married man, begging can work (once in a Dog's Age, anyways)!!...
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I was just thinking about how badly the NHL salary cap needs to go up, and go up ASAP. For the good of the league they need to loosen up constraints a bit.
Let alone a second for JD.
I like the current situation. Teams are giving away players for free. It's quite entertaining.
ChesterNimitz
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Let's all remember this sentiment before urging the team to sign Dubois or any other player to a mega contract in a vain attempt to improve the fortunes of a team that still requires fundamental re-building before becoming relevant.
CHfan1
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Unfortunately the players had and still have a big escrow debt to pay off before the cap can go up. If revenues jump greatly this season and next it will start going up higher than $1 million per season shortly.
HomeAndHome
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Do we know if any of Byron, Drouin, or Price have been confirmed healthy for the start of camp? If any 3 of them start the season on IR it would open up cap space to sign Dach and another veteran defensemen. If not, is there a trade that could even be made to create room without attaching a fairly large sweetener or not getting rid of a good player like Vegas did with Pacioretty?
Subban, Stralman, Russell, etc could help this year imo ... One injury on defense and it's going to be rough ... Not that it isn't already.
Subban, Stralman, Russell, etc could help this year imo ... One injury on defense and it's going to be rough ... Not that it isn't already.
Sorry, but why? We are looking to have spots for our young D and see who develops. This isn't a playoff team that needs to add a vet D at this point. I also wouldn't bank on Subban helping any young guys and being a leader. One injury on D and it's going to be rough? I am not sure if you follow the team or not, but we are looking to tank and get a top 5 pick hopefully, so that would be ideal.
HomeAndHome
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We don't know how the team will shake down yet, if Harris and Barron play all year in the NHL but Guhle and other prospects are in the AHL we will need another body. Also, injures will happen, always do.
Of course I follow the team... I'm posting on a fan board in the summer. Do you think adding Subban, Stralman or Russell improves the Habs significantly? I just want another vet to help insulate the kids and help them adjust to find their NHL games. Adding these declining vet defensemen for very low cap hit isn't a win now move, it's a let's try and not let Monty and Allen get shelled by 50 shots a game move.
I like Subban btw, you don't have to and that's fine. He is still a decent puck mover in his own zone and ok defender. He just doesn't have the offensive upside any longer.
Also, players don't look to tank. Odds are the team ends up bottom 10 quite easily no matter what other moves they make this summer. I agree a top 5 pick would be ideal, but so is the development and confidence of young players on the team.
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I think at this point we would just be happy to get rid of them for free.
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Or at the very least the NHL should have allowed for 1 compliance buy-out per team.
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