HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[Miller Time]

Evans is a 4th liner. There’s not much more there than that.

Not much more aside from the fact that in his first full NHL season, he produced at 3rd line level, with no virtually no pp time while being one of the better defensively responsible forwards on his team.

Wasn't a 4th liner last year, but hey, maybe you're right and he'll regress going forward

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

My post was a waste of time because I answered to your post. Why write if HuGo will do or will not do?
You've never heard "wait and see"? Your obsession is bringing back MB in the discussion. He's not here anymore so turn the page and look forward amigo.
Is MB your personal demon? You wake up in the night hating him?
C'mon, laught with me on this joke!

What are you talking about? I don't believe I have referred to MB very often. You must be thinking of someone else. I may have brought up MB a lot to counteract ridiculous detractors of KK though.

Not much more aside from the fact that in his first full NHL season, he produced at 3rd line level, with no virtually no pp time while being one of the better defensively responsible forwards on his team.

Wasn't a 4th liner last year, but hey, maybe you're right and he'll regress going forward

He has had 2 seasons and 29 points is not 3rd line production. He may have been at 3rd line production after Ducharme was canned though.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

What are you talking about? I don't believe I have referred to MB very often. You must be thinking of someone else.

I didn't pay attention about you personally. I never saw your name before so sorry if I say you are obsessed about MB. But others have obsessions about x or y players, and MB. If you read here often you can see what I'm talking about.

Healing can take some time

If I have to make a speach in front of a large crowd I'll probably wish peace on earth, reduction of the pollution, save the whales and heal from the trauma of having MB too many years.

 

[Sterling Archer]

For everyone saying Dach had 33 points etc etc etc. Caufield had 1 goal until MSL took over. The coach, your role and how you’re used makes a massive difference. From everything I’ve read, Dach wasn’t used properly at all and if he’s going to thrive anywhere, it’ll be here with a young team, offensive minded coach playing in a system he’ll excel in.

You never know but I think the change will do him good and he’ll surprise a lot of people.

 

[Runner77]

For everyone saying Dach had 33 points etc etc etc. Caufield had 1 goal until MSL took over. The coach, your role and how you’re used makes a massive difference. From everything I’ve read, Dach wasn’t used properly at all and if he’s going to thrive anywhere, it’ll be here with a young team, offensive minded coach playing in a system he’ll excel in.

You never know but I think the change will do him good and he’ll surprise a lot of people.

There is also the fact of being surrounded by competent development people.

 

[Sterling Archer]

There is also the fact of being surrounded by competent development people.

Heck yeaaaaaaah.

 

[Miller Time]

He has had 2 seasons and 29 points is not 3rd line production. He may have been at 3rd line production after Ducharme was canned though.

1 full season. 29 pts in 72 games. 3rd line production level.

1 Covid shortened season. 13pts in 47 games. Also, 3rd line production level.

Not sure what you consider "3rd line production"... But perhaps helps to keep in mind that there are 288 forward spots open to fill the top 9 of all 32 NHL teams. Guess where Evans production situated him last year?

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

There is also the fact of being surrounded by competent development people.

 

[waffledave]

I would agree if he wasn’t a 3oa pick with a pretty bad injury history
He’s got a lot to prove

Every player has to prove themselves. They have 200 games to do it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Evans is a 4th liner. There’s not much more there than that.

Nah... he's better than your average 4th linger in my books. I think he'll top out at a solid 3C and I don't think he is done maturing yet

I know we are not. That’s why he isn’t here yet and we have a good GM.

Doesn't mean our good GM thinks Dubois is a looser though

 

[Habs Halifax]

Is there anything from HuGo’s handling of contracts so far, that leads anyone to believe they would be lax about this sort of thing? With over 30 years experience as an NHL agent, seems to me that Hughes tends to cover his bases.

Hughes is not coughing up good value for Dubois without ensuring a long term deal.

Yup! It makes logical sense and it's bad management if you trade pieces for a guy who can force a larger deal later cause you give the player the leverage. No doubt in my mind that if there ever was a trade for Dubois, the extension is announced shortly after.

Only time will tell.

 

[Habs Halifax]

he was actually a beast in the bubble its very possible that the wrist injury slowed him down

I think the disaster season by the Blackhawks last year was a bigger factor. Look what it did to so many Habs players.

If Dach's wrist injury was holding him back, I don't imagine he would have returned that year to play 18 games at the end of the season. Usually, when there is lingering effects, you see more context into it.

One area I would be curious about is video showing his shot before and after he video. Someone like Drouin had a noticeable difference IMO.

 

[Deleted member 257557]

So… What happened to the Dubois thread? was going to share the alouette tweet.

Now that Huberdeau signed Dubois is the only specific non-hab player we hear anything about.

 

[DAChampion]

I don't know how this team can become a contender without a number 1D, and I don't know how it can get one.

 

[salbutera]

I don't know how this team can become a contender without a number 1D, and I don't know how it can get one.

Yup - I’ve come to learn the most important position for any Cup winner is that 1D.

Canes are the only team I can think of since the cap was implemented that won the Cup without a clear cut 1D - that was year 1 of cap implementation!!

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I don't know how this team can become a contender without a number 1D, and I don't know how it can get one.

Hopefully one emerges in next years draft. Everyone is hyper focused on Bedard, and I get it, but realistically we will be more in the 5-15 range.

I like what we have upfront, especially if we can add Dubois in free agency.

Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Dach, Dubois, Mesar, Farrell, Roy, Heineman, Evans… we have enough pieces, and that’s not even including vets like Gallagher and Anderson.

On D we have Guhle, Mailloux, and Hutson coming in eventually, and Harris and Barron already here. I agree, we just need that stud #1. And I’m hoping we get that guy in next years draft though not sure that player has revealed himself just yet.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He has had 2 seasons and 29 points is not 3rd line production. He may have been at 3rd line production after Ducharme was canned though.

Evans is maturing right in front of our eyes. He's got game and he's not just some 4th liner. The kid is clearly working hard at improving his game and he's the type to take modest gains from season to season.

Go look at his development in each of the NCAA, AHL, and now NHL. His growth chart is not steep but the kid keeps improving season to season.

With MSL last year, he had 17 pts with 7 goals in 35 games... playing 15 min a game. Prorate that for a full season and it's 40 pts with 16 goals. Bring in Dach is going to limit Evans from moving up so I would expect 30-40 pts range and 10-15 goals. Still going to play 4th line but that's not really a 4th liner.

 

[Runner77]

So… What happened to the Dubois thread? was going to share the alouette tweet.

Now that Huberdeau signed Dubois is the only specific non-hab player we hear anything about.

Weren’t the Habs also in on Letang and Malkin?

These insiders are all over the map.

The only certainty we have is the Als poutine helmet.

 

[417]

Healing can take some time

Sometimes the healing process is worse then the wound itself

 

[Justin11]

Sometimes the healing process is worse then the wound itself

Good thing I don't dwell on the past

 

[blarneylad]

Weren’t the Habs also in on Letang and Malkin?

These insiders are all over the map.

The only certainty we have is the Als poutine helmet.

Habs are in on every player. We never land the guy though.

Which tells me, if Dubois wants to play here get him!

 

[417]

Good thing I don't dwell on the past

I was just being facetious either way lol.

I also find it curious how much he who I shall not name, stays on people's minds still...dude is gone, let it go.

Just smile cause it happened lol

 

[Deleted member 257557]

Weren’t the Habs also in on Letang and Malkin?

These insiders are all over the map.

The only certainty we have is the Als poutine helmet.

I had heard Laraque on 91 sport say Letang was not leaving Pittsburgh pretty much from the moment the rumors started; I don’t remember much Malkin talk beyond wishful thinking.… But yeah, seems like we’ll now wait on waivers to see if Hugo add anyone.

 

[Habby4Life]

Habs are in on every player. We never land the guy though.

Which tells me, if Dubois wants to play here get him!

Yeah, no thanks. They should not give up any assets to get him. If he goes to FA and wants to be a Hab than take a shot, otherwise, giant pass in my books.

Frankly, I don't think he has the skill or the attitude to thrive in MTL.

 

[blarneylad]

I had heard Laraque on 91 sport say Letang was not leaving Pittsburgh pretty much from the moment the rumors started; I don’t remember much Malkin talk beyond wishful thinking.… But yeah, seems like we’ll now wait on waivers to see if Hugo add anyone.

I'm waiting on him to substract someone